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AOLGuy · 02-05-2003, 02:27 AM

My younger brother has decided to take after me and start a website. He put up some fliers looking for models around where he lives in Northern California.

Today he gets a call from a female police detective asking all sorts of questions--is this a business? Where does he shoot? What is his name, address, drivers license #? Is he a sex offender?

Now I don't think he did anything illegal per what kind of fliers they were. But I know that in some cities posting ANY fliers is illegal.

However, he also didn't answer the questions to where the cop felt satisfied. She said he should meet with her to discuss matters.

Am I crazy, or is this police officer mixing her personal politics with her job?

Maybe they have never dealt with this up there, but in So. Cal, the one run-in I had with the cops ended the second I showed them my release form. Perhaps she does not even know that what he is doing is legal?

Best I can figure, she is trying to pressure him into not seeking out talent in that area and is hoping to discourage him.

My advice to him was not to put up any more fliers and not to return her phone calls. I told him to wait until he gets a ticket for the fliers, or if they come to arrest him (for what though, I am not sure).

I told him that if they want to have him come in to talk, to tell them he will want legal counsel present and retain a lawyer immediately.

I also told him to specify a million times over to any other girls that call that they need to be 18 or over, and to keep pristine records of their proof of age--taking that information at the very beginning of a meeting, just to protect himself.

Amputate Your Head · 02-05-2003, 02:30 AM

You find it odd that the police would check out the person putting up flyers asking for chicks to get naked? I don't. In fact, they'd better.

Theo · 02-05-2003, 02:31 AM

fliers looking for models in street.......what's next

Libertine · 02-05-2003, 02:31 AM

I believe he just found himself his first model.

AOLGuy · 02-05-2003, 02:33 AM

let me state that he is not the sharpest tool in the shed - hence, he is not working for me...

KRL · 02-05-2003, 02:34 AM

He's crazy to be doing that. He's going to get religious freaks seeing those and filing complaints. 10 to 1 he gets pinched eventually if not now on some trumped up charge they'll throw at him just to fuck with him.

AOLGuy · 02-05-2003, 02:35 AM

and just to clarify, my original post is for any advice I did not give him on how to protect himself against any future harassment or problems...

Amputate Your Head · 02-05-2003, 02:36 AM

well, I think definately don't be putting up any more flyers for it... lol

drunkdollars · 02-05-2003, 02:38 AM

I see crazy flyers in Hollywood : gay, bi, Tranny want to make money in porn call ..

I am guessing its not legal but it happens, I imagine its the area you put them up in that determines if the PO call

EscortBiz · 02-05-2003, 02:39 AM

I hope he gets smarter because what he did was real stupid

EscortBiz · 02-05-2003, 02:41 AM

also cops dont call when they want to arrest you, they just show up

Like this guy told me the other day he got a call from the FBI, I told him the FBI does not make phone calls, they make visits

ThunderBalls · 02-05-2003, 02:50 AM

Tell him to tell the cop to go fuck herself. Cops only talk to you for one reason: they want to bust you but they don't have enough evidence and they are trying to get you to incriminate yourself.

Amputate Your Head · 02-05-2003, 02:51 AM

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Originally posted by ThunderBalls
Tell him to tell the cop to go fuck herself. Cops only talk to you for one reason: they want to bust you but they don't have enough evidence and they are trying to get you to incriminate yourself.

if you got nothing to hide, there shouldn't be anything to worry about.

Mr.Fiction · 02-05-2003, 03:18 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

if you got nothing to hide, there shouldn't be anything to worry about.

Funny.

Amputate Your Head · 02-05-2003, 03:27 AM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

Funny.

funny cuz it's true. I got nothing to hide and I never have any problems.

ThunderBalls · 02-05-2003, 03:29 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

if you got nothing to hide, there shouldn't be anything to worry about.

Plenty of innocent people in jail because they thought the same thing and talked to cops without an attorney.

Amputate Your Head · 02-05-2003, 03:35 AM

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Originally posted by ThunderBalls

Plenty of innocent people in jail because they thought the same thing and talked to cops without an attorney.

yep.... you ask anyone in jail and they'll all tell you they're innocent.

applejacks · 02-05-2003, 04:46 AM

Tell that bitch to fuck OFF!!!
I dont see anything Illegal about it..

Ross · 02-05-2003, 05:37 AM

I don't think it would be illegal........

Over here it is, you can't promote this business on the streets!
But from what I heard its all ok in America!

Tell him not to put anymore fliers and just be careful about who he is choosing

maybe start with some female friends who are willing to do it then work his way up?

applejacks · 02-05-2003, 05:40 AM

The best thing, go to a local stip club and talk to the girls..

They will do anything for money..

ChrisH · 02-05-2003, 06:24 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

yep.... you ask anyone in jail and they'll all tell you they're innocent.

Yes I think it's like 95% of them too... lol

WHen you say he put up some fliers. Do you mean he went car to car putting them under windshield wipers? If so there ARE laws against things like that. Granted if it was Bobs Deli no one would care, but that doesn't make it legal.

Hustlin Entertainment · 02-05-2003, 06:26 AM

www.adultinternetlaw.com

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BVF · 02-05-2003, 06:57 AM

I put up "erotic photography" business cards in the neighborhood chinese carryouts....cops visit them all the time. I've never received a call....

And if a cop did call asking me questions about my "business", I'd just let him/her know that what I did was for a hobby.

AOLGuy · 02-05-2003, 08:50 AM

He put up fliers on bulletin boards near the local colleges, and at the local music venue where a lot of 18-30 year olds hang out...

His flier was really mellow and slick looking... kinda rave-ish.

AOLGuy · 02-05-2003, 08:51 AM

RE: talking to the cops without an attorney

Don't you watch Law & Order?

NEVER do that shit.

vegasdude · 02-05-2003, 08:52 AM

thanks i just spilled redbull out over my keyboard!

cyberpunk · 02-05-2003, 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

if you got nothing to hide, there shouldn't be anything to worry about.

ITs areguemnts like that that have americans giving up ALOT of freedoms tot he gov't these days,
would you turn over all your biz documents and such to the poilice jsut casue they asked for them?

What this guy did was dumb, and I'm sure will haunt him inthe long run, but the cop needs to go fuckherself.

AOLGuy · 02-05-2003, 09:14 AM

The only thing that puzzles me still is what is illegal about it.

I know it was not intelligent, and it draws attention...

But how did he break the law?

NastyJack · 02-05-2003, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by ThunderBalls
Plenty of innocent people in jail because they thought the same thing and talked to cops without an attorney.

Just what I was thinking!

The first thing I tell a cop is "I want my lawyer present".
Usually they back off at that point!

As it turns out I've got the same lawyer that represents them in court so as soon as I mention his name they know that he's not going to be backing them up this time.

It's called, taking the bull by the horns.

Regards
NastyJack

NastyJack · 02-05-2003, 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by AKFK
The only thing that puzzles me still is what is illegal about it.

I'm not a lawyer and I can't say if it's illegal because I don't know where you're at but it sounds to me as if they just want to check him out.

Better to be safe then sorry and shit like that...

If his worried about it have him call a lawyer.
That should solve his problem.

edit: Oh yea, the next time his looking for girls tell him to find them at the local streap joint.

Regards
NastyJack

AOLGuy · 02-05-2003, 10:04 AM

He is trying to go amateur and got really jaded within a week of talking to girls online who flaked on him. He has been going through AOL and trying to copy how I started out...

He is too green for me to recommend him to use AdultStaffing or even OneModelPlace.

I know enough girls who are in the biz or are thinking of getting into it, and he does not have the tact to do the handholding thing yet.

That, and he for the route he wants to go, he can't use girls who are on other sites really...

I suggested he hire a few female friends to recruit for him--one works at a store at his local mall, and can probably find him some decent prospects.

I think he did the flier blitz because he was frustrated in waiting...

I remember my first month seeming endless, and it was only the beginning of a long, tense journey.... Still, beats any other job I've had.

AOLGuy · 02-05-2003, 05:43 PM

Follow-up:

The female police detective ran a check on him and called him back today...

...TO APOLOGIZE.

She also gave him advice on finding girls...

EscortBiz · 02-05-2003, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AKFK
Follow-up:

The female police detective ran a check on him and called him back today...

...TO APOLOGIZE.

She also gave him advice on finding girls...

now this makes the story sound a bit unreal

02-05-2003, 02:27 AM	#1
AOLGuy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,261	Legal Advice - Overzealous Cop? My younger brother has decided to take after me and start a website. He put up some fliers looking for models around where he lives in Northern California. Today he gets a call from a female police detective asking all sorts of questions--is this a business? Where does he shoot? What is his name, address, drivers license #? Is he a sex offender? Now I don't think he did anything illegal per what kind of fliers they were. But I know that in some cities posting ANY fliers is illegal. However, he also didn't answer the questions to where the cop felt satisfied. She said he should meet with her to discuss matters. Am I crazy, or is this police officer mixing her personal politics with her job? Maybe they have never dealt with this up there, but in So. Cal, the one run-in I had with the cops ended the second I showed them my release form. Perhaps she does not even know that what he is doing is legal? Best I can figure, she is trying to pressure him into not seeking out talent in that area and is hoping to discourage him. My advice to him was not to put up any more fliers and not to return her phone calls. I told him to wait until he gets a ticket for the fliers, or if they come to arrest him (for what though, I am not sure). I told him that if they want to have him come in to talk, to tell them he will want legal counsel present and retain a lawyer immediately. I also told him to specify a million times over to any other girls that call that they need to be 18 or over, and to keep pristine records of their proof of age--taking that information at the very beginning of a meeting, just to protect himself.

02-05-2003, 02:30 AM	#2
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	You find it odd that the police would check out the person putting up flyers asking for chicks to get naked? I don't. In fact, they'd better. __________________ SIG TOO BIG Last edited by Amputate Your Head; 02-05-2003 at 02:34 AM..

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Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	well, I think definately don't be putting up any more flyers for it... lol __________________ SIG TOO BIG

02-05-2003, 02:31 AM	#3
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02-05-2003, 02:33 AM	#5
AOLGuy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,261	let me state that he is not the sharpest tool in the shed - hence, he is not working for me...

02-05-2003, 02:35 AM	#7
AOLGuy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,261	and just to clarify, my original post is for any advice I did not give him on how to protect himself against any future harassment or problems...

02-05-2003, 02:38 AM	#9
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AOLGuy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,261	He put up fliers on bulletin boards near the local colleges, and at the local music venue where a lot of 18-30 year olds hang out... His flier was really mellow and slick looking... kinda rave-ish.

02-05-2003, 08:51 AM	#25
AOLGuy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,261	RE: talking to the cops without an attorney Don't you watch Law & Order? NEVER do that shit.

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02-05-2003, 09:14 AM	#28
AOLGuy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,261	The only thing that puzzles me still is what is illegal about it. I know it was not intelligent, and it draws attention... But how did he break the law?

02-05-2003, 10:04 AM	#31
AOLGuy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,261	He is trying to go amateur and got really jaded within a week of talking to girls online who flaked on him. He has been going through AOL and trying to copy how I started out... He is too green for me to recommend him to use AdultStaffing or even OneModelPlace. I know enough girls who are in the biz or are thinking of getting into it, and he does not have the tact to do the handholding thing yet. That, and he for the route he wants to go, he can't use girls who are on other sites really... I suggested he hire a few female friends to recruit for him--one works at a store at his local mall, and can probably find him some decent prospects. I think he did the flier blitz because he was frustrated in waiting... I remember my first month seeming endless, and it was only the beginning of a long, tense journey.... Still, beats any other job I've had.

02-05-2003, 05:43 PM	#32
AOLGuy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,261	Follow-up: The female police detective ran a check on him and called him back today... ...TO APOLOGIZE. She also gave him advice on finding girls...