Who Will You Be Voting For In 2012 - Romney, Obama, or Perry?

[BFT3K]

Who Will You Be Voting For In 2012?

[Sly]

Bachmann.

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by Sly

Bachmann.

It will PROBABLY be Obama/Perry.

Maybe Obama/Romney if Perry blows up.

Bachmann and Paul may still be around, but neither one stands a chance.

[J. Falcon]

Voting is for pussies.

[BFT3K]

If Ron Paul separated himself from the Right, and ran as an Independent, he would have a better chance. In the end, this plan would likely syphon off more Republican voters than Democratic voters, but it would certainly shake things up!

[marketsmart]

i will never waste my time voting again...




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[iamtam]

who is the bagger candidate?

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by iamtam

who is the bagger candidate?

Rick Perry

[cess]

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by cess

I know it's easy to drop-out, and not vote at all, but as long as ANYONE else is going to vote, you should always do your part, or you will have no voice.

People have been willing to die for voting rights the world over, and that basic right is still something many people continue to fight and die for, even today.

Sometimes it is easy to succumb to cynicism... especially these days, but if you don't vote, you really shouldn't be allowed to complain about any elected official.

[LAJ]

Perry lol... he'll disappear from that list. Thankfully.

[Brujah]

Why not Pawlenty?

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by Brujah

Why not Pawlenty?

Anything is possible... I just reduced it down to the two who are most likely.

[Vendzilla]

Still not behind anyone yet

[CYF]

Ron Paul

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Still not behind anyone yet

dont worry..

fox news will tell you who you are going to vote for soon...




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[tommy5tone]

Choosing one of these is like choosing which leg I would rather have cut off.

[Emil]

Why didn't you add Ron Paul to the list?

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

dont worry..

fox news will tell you who you are going to vote for soon...


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MSNBC or the men wearing the tin foil hats will do the same for you

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

dont worry..

fox news will tell you who you are going to vote for soon...




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I haven't been watching news lately, I get my info from you

[DWB]

Does it matter who is elected at this point?

[MK Ultra]

Rule # 1-No incumbent will ever get my vote again







(that being said Ron Paul FTW)






(but only for 1 term, see rule #1)

[Brujah]

Romney vs Obama, I'll vote Romney.
Perry vs Obama, I'll vote Obama.

[D Ghost]

None of the above...

Ron Paul

[cess]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

I know it's easy to drop-out, and not vote at all, but as long as ANYONE else is going to vote, you should always do your part, or you will have no voice.

People have been willing to die for voting rights the world over, and that basic right is still something many people continue to fight and die for, even today.

Sometimes it is easy to succumb to cynicism... especially these days, but if you don't vote, you really shouldn't be allowed to complain about any elected official.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clip...00/vote-or-die

[Rochard]

Drill Baby Drill!

[DaddyHalbucks]

Definitely NOT Obama.

[BFT3K]

[Geometrist]

Not the Yankee

[kane]

Originally Posted by Brujah

Romney vs Obama, I'll vote Romney.
Perry vs Obama, I'll vote Obama.

I would likely do the same. Perry is a right wing nutjob and Obama is a disappointment. Maybe something could happen between now and the election that would lead me to want to vote for Obama, but likely I would choose Romney over him.

On a side note, it doesn't matter who I vote for because of out outdated and ineffective electoral college system. I live in a very liberal state that will swing for Obama so I could vote for Ringo Starr and it would have the same effect.

[campimp]

ron paul if by some miracle he is the candidate

[dyna mo]

2011 Straw Poll Full Results (Votes, %)
1. Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (4823, 28.55%)
2. Congressman Ron Paul (4671, 27.65%)
3. Governor Tim Pawlenty (2293, 13.57%)
4. Senator Rick Santorum (1657, 9.81%)
5. Herman Cain(1456, 8.62%)
6. Governor Rick Perry (718, 3.62%) write-in
7. Governor Mitt Romney (567, 3.36%)
8. Speaker Newt Gingrich (385, 2.28%)
9. Governor Jon Huntsman (69, 0.41%)
10. Congressman Thad McCotter (35, 0.21%)

[kane]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

2011 Straw Poll Full Results (Votes, %)
1. Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (4823, 28.55%)
2. Congressman Ron Paul (4671, 27.65%)
3. Governor Tim Pawlenty (2293, 13.57%)
4. Senator Rick Santorum (1657, 9.81%)
5. Herman Cain(1456, 8.62%)
6. Governor Rick Perry (718, 3.62%) write-in
7. Governor Mitt Romney (567, 3.36%)
8. Speaker Newt Gingrich (385, 2.28%)
9. Governor Jon Huntsman (69, 0.41%)
10. Congressman Thad McCotter (35, 0.21%)

Means nothing though. Only once has the winner of the straw poll actually gone on to win the white house. This thing is held right in the middle of Batshit America so it is right in Bachmann's wheelhouse.

[Chosen]

I won't

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by kane

Means nothing though. Only once has the winner of the straw poll actually gone on to win the white house. This thing is held right in the middle of Batshit America so it is right in Bachmann's wheelhouse.

the fact that bachmann & paul combined to capture almost 60% of the votes means nothing?

[kane]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

the fact that bachmann & paul combined to capture almost 60% of the votes means nothing?

Yep it means nothing.

In 1987 Pat Robertson and Bob Dole combined for got 58.5% of the vote at the poll. George HW Bush won the nomination

In 2007 Romney and Huckabee won 50.5% of the vote yet McCain won the nomination.

In the past people like Steve Forbes and Phil Gramm have won over 20% of the vote and came nowhere close to winning the nomination.

Only once in the history of the poll has the winner gone on to win the White House. Bachmann is like Huckabee in a sense. Outside the bible belt she has no real support and With Perry now in the race and possibly Palin still to enter she has to share that far right support with other people. When Perry entered the race her chances of winning the nomination went way down. She was likely a long shot to begin with and now that Perry is in whatever those chances were are cut in half. Paul has a 0.0% chance of winning because he won't play the game and collect the large amounts of money from corporate donors so he won't be able to compete with the big dogs in the fight.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by kane

Yep it means nothing.

In 1987 Pat Robertson and Bob Dole combined for got 58.5% of the vote at the poll. George HW Bush won the nomination

In 2007 Romney and Huckabee won 50.5% of the vote yet McCain won the nomination.

In the past people like Steve Forbes and Phil Gramm have won over 20% of the vote and came nowhere close to winning the nomination.

Only once in the history of the poll has the winner gone on to win the White House. Bachmann is like Huckabee in a sense. Outside the bible belt she has no real support and With Perry now in the race and possibly Palin still to enter she has to share that far right support with other people. When Perry entered the race her chances of winning the nomination went way down. She was likely a long shot to begin with and now that Perry is in whatever those chances were are cut in half. Paul has a 0.0% chance of winning because he won't play the game and collect the large amounts of money from corporate donors so he won't be able to compete with the big dogs in the fight.

appreciated!

[kane]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

appreciated!

One other thing that makes me question this poll. . .well there are many. Is that Romney, who many consider to be the front runner chose to skip it, yet still got about 3% of the vote and Perry got 4.3% as a write in candidate. Bachmann grew up in this state and has roots there.

In the end it is politics and anything could happen. She could come out the gate fast and win the first handful of states and in the past that would potentially be enough to seal the nomination, but they changed the rule year so even if she wins the first few several states she has to share the delegates with the other candidates so it is likely that no candidate will be able to run away with the election early on and those with deep pockets and that appear to the more moderate crowds outside the bible belt have an advantage.

[stinkyfingers]

2011 Straw Poll Full Results (Votes, %)
1. Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (4823, 28.55%)
2. Congressman Ron Paul (4671, 27.65%)
3. Governor Tim Pawlenty (2293, 13.57%)
4. Senator Rick Santorum (1657, 9.81%)
5. Herman Cain(1456, 8.62%)
6. Governor Rick Perry (718, 3.62%) write-in
7. Governor Mitt Romney (567, 3.36%)
8. Speaker Newt Gingrich (385, 2.28%)
9. Governor Jon Huntsman (69, 0.41%)
10. Congressman Thad McCotter (35, 0.21%)

must be a typo

Romney,Obama,Perry ? I can understand how voting makes you feel good but why you would actually go waste your time on these scumbags is unreal after the last 10 years+ and the shit shape we're in ...

[Sausage]

Correct me if I am wrong, but from the outside looking in Texas seems to be doing much better than most of the other states. Just sayin.. maybe you should get a guy in charge who has some experience getting an economy working again first, then you can worry about people believing in a book, or who is putting their penis where.

[Gouge]

Anyone but Barry Soetoro.

[brassmonkey]

shrek 2012

[kane]

Originally Posted by Sausage

Correct me if I am wrong, but from the outside looking in Texas seems to be doing much better than most of the other states. Just sayin.. maybe you should get a guy in charge who has some experience getting an economy working again first, then you can worry about people believing in a book, or who is putting their penis where.

From what I understand much of this job growth has been in minimum wage jobs and energy industry jobs. Since oil companies have been making record profits it makes sense that they would expand and many of them are based in Texas. Otherwise minimum wage jobs are better than nothing, but many of them are also part time jobs that have no benefits and are meant to be held as either part time second jobs or part time jobs that teens and recent grads get while they work towards something better.

I read yesterday that much of the job growth in Texas really has little or nothing to do with Perry and his policies, but is more a byproduct of an increasing population (people moving their because cost of living is cheap) and the energy companies bleeding the rest of the nation dry.

That said, beyond his being a fanatical religious person who feels the solution to our problems is to pray I don't know a lot about him or how good of a governor he really has been.

[Agent 488]

ames straw pole winners:


Place Candidate Votes Percentage

1 Mitt Romney 4,516 31.6%
2 Mike Huckabee 2,587 18.1%
3 Sam Brownback 2,192 15.3%
4 Tom Tancredo 1,961 13.7%
5 Ron Paul 1,305 9.1%
6 Tommy Thompson 1,039 7.3%
7 Fred Thompson 203 1.4%
8 Rudy Giuliani 183 1.3%
9 Duncan Hunter 174 1.2%
10 John McCain 101 0.7%
11 John H. Cox 41 0.3%

August 11, 2007

[Gouge]

Originally Posted by kane

From what I understand much of this job growth has been in minimum wage jobs and energy industry jobs. Since oil companies have been making record profits it makes sense that they would expand and many of them are based in Texas. Otherwise minimum wage jobs are better than nothing, but many of them are also part time jobs that have no benefits and are meant to be held as either part time second jobs or part time jobs that teens and recent grads get while they work towards something better.

I read yesterday that much of the job growth in Texas really has little or nothing to do with Perry and his policies, but is more a byproduct of an increasing population (people moving their because cost of living is cheap) and the energy companies bleeding the rest of the nation dry.

That said, beyond his being a fanatical religious person who feels the solution to our problems is to pray I don't know a lot about him or how good of a governor he really has been.

According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Lonestar state added 732,000 private sector jobs in the past 10 years, while no other state added more than 100,000. In fact, only 19 states plus the District of Columbia added any jobs at all. Sorry man but those are not just minimum wage jobs and energy industry jobs, its across the board growth.

Also add in the fact that Texas avoided the real-estate bust that decimated the economies of several large Sunbelt states, including California and Florida, during the 2008-2010 recession. It consequently was positioned for a faster takeoff once the national economy began improving, allowing it to create 251,700 new jobs in the past year alone.

I guess everyone who prays for there country to prosper is now considered a "fanatical religious person"...interesting POV.

[flaunt]

Probably Rick Perry so he'll finally get the F*ck out of Texas.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Gouge

According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Lonestar state added 732,000 private sector jobs in the past 10 years, while no other state added more than 100,000. In fact, only 19 states plus the District of Columbia added any jobs at all. Sorry man but those are not just minimum wage jobs and energy industry jobs, its across the board growth.

Also add in the fact that Texas avoided the real-estate bust that decimated the economies of several large Sunbelt states, including California and Florida, during the 2008-2010 recession. It consequently was positioned for a faster takeoff once the national economy began improving, allowing it to create 251,700 new jobs in the past year alone.

I guess everyone who prays for there country to prosper is now considered a "fanatical religious person"...interesting POV.

Here is something from the Dallas Morning News
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/polit...b-creation.ece

In case you don't want to click the link here is what their fact check says:

JOBS
Perry: ?Since June of 2009, Texas is responsible for more than 40 percent of all of the new jobs created in America.?

In context: There are questions about how much Perry and his policies are to credit for those job gains. Economists agree with Perry that a low state tax rate and limitations on lawsuits help foster business growth. But other factors, such as the state?s booming population and Texas? oil and gas resources, are also at work. Critics also note that many of the jobs created on Perry?s watch are low-paying and lack benefits.

Here is some other stuff about him and the economy in Texas
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/...20091874.shtml

A few interesting points. For all its job growth the Texas unemployment rate is still right there with the national average.

Even with all this job creation the state still has a huge budget shortage so he cute healthcare for the poor and laid off 49,000 teachers.

As for his praying. During a dry spell he asked the people of Texas to take three days to pray for rain. He recently held a huge religious rally where he had some 60,000 people gather at an arena and he led a religious ceremony. I have always felt like this: If you want to be religious, no problem. However, don't bug me with it. Also, keep it out of the government. This guy is so religious it seems to be such a part of the fiber of his being he won't be able to separate them and anyone that fanatical tends to scare me because they are either A. Faking it and using it to get elected or B. They are legit and want to turn to prayer instead of logic to lead.

When you look at third world countries what do almost all of them have in common? Most of their jobs are low paying service industry jobs where nobody really creates anything, they just pass the same money back and forth between each other and they have rabidly religious leaders. Perry just gives me that third world country leader vibe.

[Agent 488]

america is doomed. obama knows what he has to do but he's handcuffed by campaign money and the republicans, and the republican candidates are just outright deranged or diabolical.

maybe large scale riots will shake things up a bit.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

dont worry..

fox news will tell you who you are going to vote for soon...




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[seeandsee]

i vote for paul!