Ron Paul May Have Secretly Won The Iowa Caucuses

[glamourmodels]

Ron Paul May Have Secretly Won The Iowa Caucuses

DES MOINES ? Ron Paul may have officially come in third tonight, but if the campaign's caucus strategy went off as planned, then Paul may actually be the real winner of the first Republican voting contest.

That's because Paul's massive organizational push in Iowa focused on both winning votes, and also on making sure that Paul supporters stuck around after the vote to make sure they were selected as county delegates ? the first step towards being elected as a delegate to the Republican National Convention.

That's because Iowa's Republican caucuses are non-binding ? they are technically just a straw poll, so once selected, delegates are free to vote for whichever presidential candidate they choose.

"Part of what we've been training the Ron Paul people to do is not to leave after the vote," Dan Godzich, a senior campaign advisor, told BI. "Stay and get elected to the conventions and get us those delegates."

Godzich and Sydney Hay, another Paul advisor, crisscrossed Iowa in the weeks leading up to the caucuses, making sure precinct leaders knew what to do and organizing slates of delegates that would ensure Paul walked away with a strong majority, even if he lost the caucus' straw poll vote.

By the eve of Election Day, Hay said she was confident that Paul would come away from Iowa with a strong majority of the state's delegates. It's a good first step toward making sure that Paul has a strong presence on the floor in Tampa this summer ? something that his supporters believe will help force the Republican party to start reckoning with their Movement.

UPDATE: 1:40 a.m.

Sources close to the Paul campaign indicated Tuesday that they were happy with their delegate count. Although we couldn't get specific numbers, a source told Business Insider that Paul nailed down the delegates in all of Iowa's smaller counties, and made a strong showing in several larger ones.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-p...trategy-201201



Did Ron Paul just win Iowa?

COUNCIL BLUFFS, IOWA -- "I think Ron Paul just won Iowa," declared Mark Hansen, Ron Paul's Pottawattamie County coordinator. Here at a bar serving as the unofficial county headquarters of the Paul campaign, Hansen had just conceded that Paul would not win the popular vote in Iowa, but he also pointed out that after the straw polls, the precincts appointed delegates to the county conventions in March -- and that in every precinct in Pottawattamie, at least, two or three Ron Paul supporters volunteered to be delegates, and few other candidates' supporters volunteered.

Delegates at the county conventions help select delegates to the state convention, which then select delegates to the Republican National Convention.

Technically, tonight's vote was a straw poll, determining no delegates, but setting the tone. The only actions that actually could make a difference in electing delegates to the National Convention heavily favored Paul. Nobody will be watching in June, unless this election gets much more exciting, but Ron Paul might send more Iowa delegates to Tampa than any other candidate.

http://campaign2012.washingtonexamin...in-iowa/289986


We Won?t Know Who Really Won Iowa Until June

Mitt Romney won the Iowa caucuses by a mere eight votes in the wee hours of Wednesday morning, but what does he actually get? Not much more than bragging rights and the spectacle. The delegate allocation from Iowa is still very much undecided.

We won?t know the real winner until Iowa selects its Republican National Convention delegates in June, and the possibility remains that Ron Paul, Rick Santorum, or another candidate, will earn that distinction.

Iowa will send 28 delegates to the August Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla. To win the nomination, a candidate will need the support of 1,144 delegates out of a 2,286 total, meaning Iowa?s delegates amount to 2.5 percent of the number needed to win.

But a candidate like Paul, whose campaign has emphasized state- and county-level organizing in places other campaigns have all but ignored, could possibly walk away with Iowa?s delegates by knowing Iowa?s rules and pitching the right battles.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...wa-until-june/

[porno jew]

YES even when RON PAUL loses her actually WINS! I think he really is the MESSIAH!

[glamourmodels]

Sorry porno_jew, you still did not beat your record of 1 minute to come on a new Ron paul thread to bash him. This time was 2 minutes, you must be slipping. No bonus for you.

The article... excuse me... articles (including ABC News) speak for themselves. It's the delegates that matter, even a troglodyte like you should know this, and it looks like Ron Paul may have actually gotten the most delegates out of Iowa. Sorry to break it to you bro.

[porno jew]

yes ron paul actually won. i understand. he isn't the president of the internet for nothing.

[glamourmodels]

I am simply reposting articles from news sources. I did not write them, I did not come up with the headline. If you have such an issue with the content, I suggest you post a comment on their site LOL. I have no interest in defending the articles against childish smear attacks from you, I am simply passing along the information. If you don't like it, that's really not my problem.

[porno jew]

it's you that pollutes this board with inane ron paul threads everyday, not me.

thought i was on ignore.

[glamourmodels]

The bigger question is: if Ron Paul threads offend your sensibilities so much, then why do you spend so much of your time posting on them?

Originally Posted by porno jew

it's you that pollutes this board with inane ron paul threads everyday, not me.

[porno jew]

nothing better to do.

[glamourmodels]

Clearly...

[buzzard]

That's exactly what we did, stuck around and voted in 2 delegates from our precinct. Both were Dr. Paul supporters.

It's nice to have the majority vote but delegates can make or break you

[glamourmodels]

I guess we will see what happens. Paul is running second in New Hampshire and they also do not have a "winner take all" so he will pick up some more delegates for sure there as well. Plus with a couple debates coming up, at the very least with him indisputably being in the top 3 tier, they wont be able to get away with that 89 second bullshit and generally the more people hear Dr. Paul speak, the more they support him so I guess as I said we will have to see what happens. To be honest though, regardless of Santorum's suprise showing in Iowa, he turns of way too many people to actually win a general election so religious conservatives are slitting their own throat by supporting him. Like it or not, it comes down to Mitt Romney or Ron Paul.

Originally Posted by buzzard

That's exactly what we did, stuck around and voted in 2 delegates from our precinct. Both were Dr. Paul supporters.

It's nice to have the majority vote but delegates can make or break you

[seeandsee]

RON PAUL is winning, you will see, wait for blast!

[buzzard]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

RON PAUL is winning, you will see, wait for blast!

YUP

[Dcat]

It's almost as if the media presstitutes are covering this expressly to wake up the lackeys to what's really important, delegates.

[porno jew]

Romney edges Santorum in tight race for Iowa delegates; Paul shut out

WASHINGTON ? Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has won most of the delegates in the Iowa Republican caucuses, edging former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum. Romney won a projected 13 delegates and Santorum won 12. Texas Rep. Ron Paul was shut out.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...m_politics_pop

[glamourmodels]

You are always accusing Ron Paul supporters of being paranoid about the media spinning everything against the Congressman, yet here is a perfect example. The article you supplied is not worth the virtual paper it's printed on. It's a complete fabrication. If you would have read the articles I posted, instead of attacking reflexively as is your m.o. you would know that LOL

Since you have a blind spot as regards anything Ron paul related and apparently dont trust the sources I cited, I will refer you to Wikipedia:

All delegates are officially unbound from the results of the precinct caucus, although media organizations either estimate delegate numbers by estimating county convention results or simply divide them proportionally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_caucuses

Sorry, but your cited source is as fake as you and completely false. The delegates are not "bound" to any particular candidate, and since most Romney and Santorum supporters left after the vote, while Ron Paul supporters stayed to see it through, Ron Paul likely ended up with the most delegates. Sorry to burst your bubble. I know it must irk you to no end, but there you have it LOL

Originally Posted by porno jew

Romney edges Santorum in tight race for Iowa delegates; Paul shut out

WASHINGTON ? Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has won most of the delegates in the Iowa Republican caucuses, edging former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum. Romney won a projected 13 delegates and Santorum won 12. Texas Rep. Ron Paul was shut out.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...m_politics_pop

[pornguy]

I really hope that he does and I really hope that he sticks to the things he has said. Unlike every other person that has been voted in.

[porno jew]

face reality. ron paul got no delegates. ron paul = lost.

Originally Posted by glamourmodels

You are always accusing Ron Paul supporters of being paranoid about the media spinning everything against the Congressman, yet here is a perfect example. The article you supplied is not worth the virtual paper it's printed on. It's a complete fabrication. If you would have read the articles I posted, instead of attacking reflexively as is your m.o. you would know that LOL

Since you have a blind spot as regards anything Ron paul related and apparently dont trust the sources I cited, I will refer you to Wikipedia:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_caucuses

Sorry, but your cited source is as fake as you and completely false. The delegates are not "bound" to any particular candidate, and since most Romney and Santorum supporters left after the vote, while Ron Paul supporters stayed to see it through, Ron Paul likely ended up with the most delegates. Sorry to burst your bubble. I know it must irk you to no end, but there you have it LOL

[u-Bob]

Over here (EU), the state television dedicated a 20 minute segment to the Iowa polls. They discussed every candidate except Ron Paul... didn't even mention him.

[glamourmodels]

Funny you tell me to face reality when I have supplied numerous articles from mainstream outlets disputing your claim. Seems like you are the one with a reality issues and shows what a lying pos you are

Originally Posted by porno jew

face reality. ron paul got no delegates. ron paul = lost.

[porno jew]

show me proof ron paul won any delegates in iowa.

of that's right you have none. just more paulbot wish fulfillment masquerading as reality.

Originally Posted by glamourmodels

Funny you tell me to face reality when I have supplied numerous articles from mainstream outlets disputing your claim. Seems like you are the one with a reality issues and shows what a lying pos you are

[porno jew]

that paul won any delegates is just speculation from the paulbot camp. no one knows until the convention. but hey don't let reality get in the way of fantasy ... that's not how the paulbots roll after all.

[glamourmodels]

I know something like objective reality is a foreign concept to you as you like to just make up bullshit as you go along, so I know this might go over your tiny little brain but in case you did not notice these two statements are contradictory. First you say that "ron paul got no delegates" and then 2 posts later you say "no one knows until the convention"...

So if no one knows until the convention how many delegates he has, then how can you say with any credibility he got no delegates?

The answer of course is that you are a pos liar LOL

Originally Posted by porno jew

face reality. ron paul got no delegates. ron paul = lost.

Originally Posted by porno jew

that paul won any delegates is just speculation from the paulbot camp. no one knows until the convention. but hey don't let reality get in the way of fantasy ... that's not how the paulbots roll after all.

[porno jew]

so how many did ron paul win? would like to know.

Originally Posted by glamourmodels

I know something like objective reality is a foreign concept to you as you like to just make up bullshit as you go along, so I know this might go over your tiny little brain but in case you did not notice these two statements are contradictory. First you say that "ron paul got no delegates" and then 2 posts later you say "no one knows until the convention"...

So if no one knows until the convention how many delegates he has, then how can you say with any credibility he got no delegates?

The answer of course is that you are a pos liar LOL

[glamourmodels]

I don't know. And I never claimed to know. In fact just the opposite. The third story I posted from ABC news clearly says we wont know until the convention for sure. The first two stories merely speculate based on anecdotal evidence (which may or may not be correct) that Ron Paul may have gotten more than his apportioned share simply because while Romney and Santorum supporters left, Paul's supporters saw the thing through and may have ended up being over -represented since it was a non binding vote and ultimately those delegates are not required to vote for either Romney or Santorum despite their getting more votes. Can your feeble mind grasp that concept?

Originally Posted by porno jew

so how many did ron paul win? would like to know.

[porno jew]

well at least now you admit ron paul lost iowa and him "winning" the delegates is sheer speculation. baby steps.

Originally Posted by glamourmodels

I don't know. And I never claimed to know. In fact just the opposite. The third story I posted from ABC news clearly says we wont know until the convention for sure. The first two stories merely speculate based on anecdotal evidence (which may or may not be correct) that Ron Paul may have gotten more than his apportioned share simply because while Romney and Santorum supporters left, Paul's supporters saw the thing through and may have ended up being over -represented since it was a non binding vote and ultimately those delegates are not required to vote for either Romney or Santorum despite their getting more votes. Can your feeble mind grasp that concept?

[_Richard_]

id say anal sludge guy won iowa

hasn't he gotten a great deal of money since?

[Nicolas]

Ron Paul 2012!

[Coup]

Ron Paul Secret Winner Lol



This Thread Is Hilarious

[glamourmodels]

I never said he lost Iowa. Neither did I say he won Iowa. You are the one that deals in idiotic absolutes, not me. The headline clearly states, for anyone that can read (unlike you) "Ron Paul MAY have secretly won Iowa" - please show me where I claimed he definitively won dumbass- and again you show your ignorance and bias. You always accuse Ron Paul supporters of being blind sheep but you are the one influenced by your prejudices... you just said "well at least now you admit ron paul lost iowa" - that is an untruth because by your own admission a few posts ago you said that the real winner wont be known until the convention... so how can you credibly claim he lost? Just shows how completely full of shit you are loser LOL

Originally Posted by porno jew

well at least now you admit ron paul lost iowa and him "winning" the delegates is sheer speculation. baby steps.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by glamourmodels

I never said he lost Iowa. Neither did I say he won Iowa. You are the one that deals in idiotic absolutes, not me. The headline clearly states, for anyone that can read (unlike you) "Ron Paul MAY have secretly won Iowa" - please show me where I claimed he definitively won dumbass- and again you show your ignorance and bias. You always accuse Ron Paul supporters of being blind sheep but you are the one influenced by your prejudices... you just said "well at least now you admit ron paul lost iowa" - that is an untruth because by your own admission a few posts ago you said that the real winner wont be known until the convention... so how can you credibly claim he lost? Just shows how completely full of shit you are loser LOL

S'rsly...please





ADG

[glamourmodels]

You're projecting. I am perfectly chill. For that matter i would have just posted the initial story and forgot about the thread altogether, you attack dogs posting is the only reason I have even bothered to respond - had it not been for that this thread would have already died out LOL

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[TCLGirls]

Ron Paul is the secret winner of Iowa!!!!

The mass media is undertaking a vast conspiracy to undermine the greatness that is Ron Paul!!!

Ron Paul did not write or approve of those racist articles in the newsletters that he produced. He just did not know about those articles. He just paid to have the newsletter produced and distributed to 8000 subscribers. Ron Paul should not be held responsible for the things that he pays for and produces!!!!

[glamourmodels]

You haters are hilarious. You dislike the article but instead of just letting it die, you continue to bump it to the top. You guys are the ones keeping the thread alive, not me. LOL

BTW, dumbass, neither I, nor the article said it was a consipracy. Maybe you should try learning to read before you graduate to posting. It simply says that even though Romney and Santorum got more votes, they are non binding so the delegates can vote for whomever they want.

The crowning irony of the increasingly bizarre Iowa caucuses is that no actual delegates are committed. The part that really counts happens after the cameras are switched off, and the talking head panels have commenced their post-mortems.

But it’s possible a lot of those caucuses might end up producing delegates who vote differently than the people who trudged out to the big circus on Tuesday night.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=48545

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Ron Paul is the secret winner of Iowa!!!!

The mass media is undertaking a vast conspiracy to undermine the greatness that is Ron Paul!!!

Ron Paul did not write or approve of those racist articles in the newsletters that he produced. He just did not know about those articles. He just paid to have the newsletter produced and distributed to 8000 subscribers. Ron Paul should not be held responsible for the things that he pays for and produces!!!!