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DWB

Why shouldn't it be? TV, radio, cable, print... all has some degree of censorship to it. Just because it's a form of media doesn't mean it should be lawless.

The internet already has some degree of censorship, as you can't openly post child porn or beast pics anywhere you want. No one but pedophiles and beast lovers have issues with that. A little "censorship" is good when if it keeps the monsters under control.

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NewNick

The Internet is censored.

Fuck you people are slooow sometimes.

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And just why is TV censored?

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blackmonsters

Why is not the important fact, the important fact is that TV is in fact censored.

Bono faced off about the "F Word" if you remember that.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15215682

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Vendzilla

Until the censors become the Monsters

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Paul Markham

There is no doubt it has to be censored for the reasons I gave.

No censorship is an ultimate, meaning absolutely no censorship. Once you say, this shouldn't be allowed. It comes to where do you draw the line? This we can debate, no censorship means this is possible, even probable.

Yes all those things would be legal to publish online. The act may well be illegal, lie piracy is today, the publication because of the "No Censorship" rule. Allows all these things and more.

So who is willing to have that content online?

Vendzilla is scared of Censors becoming monsters. What about monsters becoming free to publish what they want, monsters getting their 5 minutes of fame, monsters who think raping a child, recording it and putting it online is fun?

You're scared the laws coming will subject Video Secrets to extra work of making sure pirates don't get paid by them.

Don't throw the baby out with the dish water. Unless you think no censorship is a risk you will take.

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DamianJ

Photographers asking for censorship is just about the fucking funniest thing ever

Be like macdonalds asking for enforced vegetarianism.

WarChild

You have to understand that Paul is a dinosaur with absolutely no knowledge about the Internet in general, never mind Internet marketing. Nobody, and The Rock means nobody, takes that crazy old fool seriously.

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raymor

A censor is someone who approves or denies something BEFORE it can be published.

Definitions:

Censorship - if the authorities prevent illegal content from being published in the first place, through a pre-approval process.

Free press - if you can be held responsible AFTER publishing unlawful material.

In the US and other free nations we have free press - if you publish something unlawful, you can be held accountable for what you did. North Korea, Cuba and other dictatorships practice censorship, which means nothing unlawful ever gets published because it has to be approved BEFORE it's published.

Vendzilla

You are concerned about pirate sites getting money from sites like us, that site is not getting any money for that pop up.

They said it would come down soon as of yesterday.

You attack the company that's proactive, making you a hypocrite and an asshat. There is a much bigger ad right up front that you fail to mention, Are they paying you?

Take your meds Paul

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think about that

mafia_man

I've been here for a while and I've never seen you change your avatar.

You must be passionate about this.

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Vendzilla

So by shutting down a site, it will censor anything new on it?

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think about that

mromro

If you are for any form of censorship then you deserve what you get. You're brainwashed to the point of no return if you can't figure out why it's bad.

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PR_Glen

LOL at thinking there isn't free press in the USA!!

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DWB

True. However, something has to be in control. People are generally unable to police themselves. That's just the way society works. Without a little control, society breaks down.

However, I want to be clear that I want the internet to be lawful and people have to abide by those laws. I don't want a China situation where information is cherry picked and given to the people. And I don't believe SOPA would bring that.

Truth be told, the US gov should censor or shut down the internet right now, with or without SOPA. Wrap it under National Security and it's curtains. You can thank the Patriot Act for that, which I may add people did not protest over like they are SOPA. Ironic.

So you are pro-child porn?

Interesting.

Valid points.

Though, I don't think any nation has full free press. Not even the USA.


It's a slippery slope but it's already there on TV, radio, cable, and print. It's part of life. And to be frank, I'd rather not expose children to the F Bomb and hardcore porn during the middle of Saturday cartoons. Without some sort of media laws and censorship, that is what you would get. Meanwhile on the lawless internet, that is EXACTLY what you get. You can't even search for "how to make bread" without getting porn results if you look in the Google images. It's disgusting and makes me ashamed to be part of this industry.

Should all media just be a free for all so everyone can expose your kids and grandma to beast sex and rape videos? Authentic Japanese rape videos on every Monday night right after Law & Order. Fridays can be Mexican murder videos. Sundays, before the game, you can gather the family around the TV and watch 5 year old Russian girls sodomized. Sounds like a win to me.

DWB

Serious?

You need to get out more man. Maybe check out Reporters Without Borders. They would disagree with you.

Vendzilla

Patriot act has been misused a lot, think of it this way, remember when the post office wanted to put a tax on emails? Thats the mind set of our government, looking for more revenue!

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think about that

Dirty Dane

Everything has censorship. Also this forum.

stocktrader23

Holy shit.

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Fletch XXX

Anyone in adult who supports cencorship of the internet needs rethink their line of work

Paul Markham

The people who don't care if child rape, snuff and the rest I listed earlier are shown online. Great being in an industry with this level of morals.

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That's exactly the case for Governments and the people to decide the where the line is drawn. No line, people would be publishing and committing crimes to make a few bucks.

The rest support the idea of some low life flying to Cambodia, buying a child, raping her or him while filming it and then selling it to a company who would sell it online.

Don't tell me it wouldn't happen, because it has and the only thing that stopped it was censorship. CP happens, you anti censorship guys want to see more online. Sick.

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Paul Markham

That is what would happen a lot more if the law of censorship was removed. Google Denmark censorship law to get the answer.

Actually Damian raises a very good point. Why would a pornographer be in favor of censorship?

History, knowledge and experience.

I lived and worked in the UK during strict censorship times. When you needed a set of balls to be a pornographer. I have been raided by the police holding search warrants like a few other friends in the business. Had to follow much stricter rules than any of you and ended up in court for breaking one. Nothing major so no looks of glee please.

So why would I be in favor of censorship?

Simple. The porn industry has it's enemies, people who want to close us all down, want us shackled, controlled so we are left with little more than a lingerie catalog level to publish. Give them the tool of linking us to child porn, real rape, snuff, S&M, web cams with girls shitting, pissing into guys mouths or visa verca and to any horrific level that will make a buck. And the anti porn people will rub their hands with joy and use it all against us. They will say look at what they do and link Twistys, OT to the most vile stuff possible.

At the moment most porn is legal in the West. Link us to the above and we're all the same. Playboy to CP to Snuff to S&M. In the eyes of too may people. And that would really threaten this industry.

Yes PJ do away with censorship and there would be people in Cambodia buying children to feature them in porn films. Because as we all know there is a lot of scum in the world.

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Stay out of other families business Paul Markham

http://www.netfamilies.org/

""Thank you for your interest in Families Against Internet Censorship. I write to tell you that after thirteen years, I believe our job is done. With no regrets and many fond memories, I am shutting down FAIC.

We have come a long way since 1996. We won a unanimous decision in the Supreme Court. The ACLU honored us with a National Civil Liberties Award. First Amendment protections have been secured for online media that are as strong as those for print. The internet has become the ubiquitous medium for families that Michele and I hoped it would. Parents are getting pretty good at protecting their kids online; when today's teenagers start raising kids, they won't think twice about it. Finally, our kids are now in college, and while they're still adorable, we’re not quite the same poster family we used to be :-).

Eternal vigilance is, of course, the price of liberty. I hope families will always be aware of the risks involved in asking the government to act in loco parentis, sacrificing their freedom for the illusion of security. Should the specter of internet censorship emerge again, I hope younger parents will step forward to demand their freedom and their right to parent their children how they want, not how others think they should. But it is time to pass the torch to a younger generation. To them I wish the very best of luck, and a precious legacy of liberty in cyberspace." "

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stocktrader23

What is your censorship IQ? I bet the kids that take this know more than half of those posting in here.

http://www.kidspeakonline.org/iq.html

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Fletch XXX

the problem with lines like this is you try to make it like we support child rape and etc, its like race baiting. It does nothing for your argument and using illegal activity to try and debate something is silly. this is a discussion of free speech, fair use, and copyright,... not child rape. man did any of you attend a debate class???? do not try to insinuate anything about me because you disagree with me.

really, try to formulate a good example instead of jumping to child rape, geez, no one supports raping children paul, try to think a bit.

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ps paul as someone in adult you should know, there is no such thing as snuff. and no one promotes it online. lol

good lord. theres never even been one found in existence!

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I know some that support "not being able to control themselves around those 16 year old school girls".

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Fletch XXX

I cant stand when someone cannot hold a debate so they begin using the worlds worst examples of human actiuon as their basis for discussion.

I dont care if you suppor stealing content, no one is talking about raping children. this could be ojne of the worst human behaviors ever, now all of a sudden, you think cencorship is bad you support CP, ummm, incorrect. Try to learn debate first before participating... taking a image from a site is a misdemeanor compared to the savagery of molestation

Its race baiting but with CP.

useless and makes the entire debate look immature and irrational.

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That is from the Internet school of debating.

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