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Old 01-20-2012, 11:43 AM   #1
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why megaupload got shutdown.

If you read the indictment you will notice the emails between company exec's are what the whole thing stems from.

On or about April 10, 2006, VAN DER KOLK sent an e-mail toORTMANN asking ?Do we have a server available to continue downloading of the Youtube?s vids? ? Kim just mentioned again that this has really priority.?

They purposely denied dmca's.

"It was further part of the Conspiracy that members of the Conspiracy deliberatelymisrepresented to copyright holders that they had removed copyright infringing content fromtheir servers, while, in fact, they only removed certain links to the content file, which could stillbe illegally downloaded through numerous redundant links. Redundant links were sometimescreated by members of the Conspiracy"

Directly stole and uploaded videos

"In approximately April 2006, members of the Mega Conspiracy copiedvideos directly from Youtube.com to make them available on Megavideo.com"

paid uploaders they were fully aware were in violation

On or about February 21, 2007, VAN DER KOLK sent an e-mail toORTMANN entitled ?2 reward payment files.? Attached to the e-mail was a file containingMegaupload.com users? e-mail addresses and reward payments for that time period, whichranged from $100 to $500. For one user that was paid $300, VAN DER KOLK wrote, ?30849files, mainly Mp3z, some copyrighted but most of them have a very small number of downloadsper file.? For other users, all of which were selected for reward payments of $100 by the MegaConspiracy, he wrote the following: ?Our old famous number one on MU, still some illegal files


33but I think he deserves a payment?; ?Loads of PDF files (looks like scanned magazines)?; ?lookslike vietnamese DVD rips?; ?This user was paid last time has mainly split RAR files, however more than 50% deleted through abuse reports.?



they will have a hard time fighting this one
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People will pay anyone to do anything lol
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I wonder what goodies the Feds will find on their servers.
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Main reason was money laundry. File sharing is just a minor cosmetic retouch to this affair that makes it look better in public.
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Good article: http://torrentfreak.com/megaupload-w...uction-120120/
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I'm sure there is quite a bit of loose mails out there from a lot of tube sites who have been having people upload for them and paying them for it.

I'm sure we'd all be surprised as to what the feds already have access to.
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Main reason was money laundry. File sharing is just a minor cosmetic retouch to this affair that makes it look better in public.
if they didn't violate the dmca it wouldn't have been money laundering . The money laundering will prob give the the biggest penalties but without the dmca its just business transactions.
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if they didn't violate the dmca it wouldn't have been money laundering . The money laundering will prob give the the biggest penalties but without the dmca its just business transactions.
still, illegal business transactions .... that's the point.

Like they got Al Capone .... not with real shit, but with mail fraud.
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" Another, allegedly sent in December 2006 by Kim Dotcom to another staff member, carried a link to a music file hosted on a MegaUpload server entitled “05-50_cent_feat._mobb_deep-nah-c4.mp3”."

please keep in mind how many times mp3s have been shared on gfy....

this is their ammo??? LOLOLOLOLOLz
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I'm sure there is quite a bit of loose mails out there from a lot of tube sites who have been having people upload for them and paying them for it.
Hope they kill all the GF sites for that same reason. I am certain FBI has access to their gmail accounts ;-P
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If I didn't have ties to the community... Oh the money I would make.

Seriously... If my parents had died when I was young and I didn't have siblings I think I'd create a service knowing I can never travel to certain countries.
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" Another, allegedly sent in December 2006 by Kim Dotcom to another staff member, carried a link to a music file hosted on a MegaUpload server entitled ?05-50_cent_feat._mobb_deep-nah-c4.mp3?."

please keep in mind how many times mp3s have been shared on gfy....

this is their ammo??? LOLOLOLOLOLz
how many times have the gfy OWNERS posted copyright mp3's on gfy ?

never..
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can you send me your email contact. Wanted to ask a question about your hosting ...
I just host with them but their email is [email protected].
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If you read the indictment you will notice the emails between company exec's are what the whole thing stems from.

On or about April 10, 2006, VAN DER KOLK sent an e-mail toORTMANN asking ?Do we have a server available to continue downloading of the Youtube?s vids? ? Kim just mentioned again that this has really priority.?

They purposely denied dmca's.

"It was further part of the Conspiracy that members of the Conspiracy deliberatelymisrepresented to copyright holders that they had removed copyright infringing content fromtheir servers, while, in fact, they only removed certain links to the content file, which could stillbe illegally downloaded through numerous redundant links. Redundant links were sometimescreated by members of the Conspiracy"

Directly stole and uploaded videos

"In approximately April 2006, members of the Mega Conspiracy copiedvideos directly from Youtube.com to make them available on Megavideo.com"

paid uploaders they were fully aware were in violation

On or about February 21, 2007, VAN DER KOLK sent an e-mail toORTMANN entitled ?2 reward payment files.? Attached to the e-mail was a file containingMegaupload.com users? e-mail addresses and reward payments for that time period, whichranged from $100 to $500. For one user that was paid $300, VAN DER KOLK wrote, ?30849files, mainly Mp3z, some copyrighted but most of them have a very small number of downloadsper file.? For other users, all of which were selected for reward payments of $100 by the MegaConspiracy, he wrote the following: ?Our old famous number one on MU, still some illegal files


33but I think he deserves a payment?; ?Loads of PDF files (looks like scanned magazines)?; ?lookslike vietnamese DVD rips?; ?This user was paid last time has mainly split RAR files, however more than 50% deleted through abuse reports.?



they will have a hard time fighting this one

Someone posted the owner made like 45 million last year alone of this site.

It would be that hard of a fight.

Unless they can get their hands on his funds.
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If you read the indictment you will notice the emails between company exec's are what the whole thing stems from.

On or about April 10, 2006, VAN DER KOLK sent an e-mail toORTMANN asking ?Do we have a server available to continue downloading of the Youtube?s vids? ? Kim just mentioned again that this has really priority.?

They purposely denied dmca's.

"It was further part of the Conspiracy that members of the Conspiracy deliberatelymisrepresented to copyright holders that they had removed copyright infringing content fromtheir servers, while, in fact, they only removed certain links to the content file, which could stillbe illegally downloaded through numerous redundant links. Redundant links were sometimescreated by members of the Conspiracy"

Directly stole and uploaded videos

"In approximately April 2006, members of the Mega Conspiracy copiedvideos directly from Youtube.com to make them available on Megavideo.com"

paid uploaders they were fully aware were in violation

On or about February 21, 2007, VAN DER KOLK sent an e-mail toORTMANN entitled ?2 reward payment files.? Attached to the e-mail was a file containingMegaupload.com users? e-mail addresses and reward payments for that time period, whichranged from $100 to $500. For one user that was paid $300, VAN DER KOLK wrote, ?30849files, mainly Mp3z, some copyrighted but most of them have a very small number of downloadsper file.? For other users, all of which were selected for reward payments of $100 by the MegaConspiracy, he wrote the following: ?Our old famous number one on MU, still some illegal files


33but I think he deserves a payment?; ?Loads of PDF files (looks like scanned magazines)?; ?lookslike vietnamese DVD rips?; ?This user was paid last time has mainly split RAR files, however more than 50% deleted through abuse reports.?



they will have a hard time fighting this one
email trails....these guys are pretty fucked.

doesn't anyone use a cone of silence anymore?
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Someone posted the owner made like 45 million last year alone of this site.

It would be that hard of a fight.

Unless they can get their hands on his funds.
here is just a bit of what they seized ( notice over 50 bank accounts seized )



$175,000,000 in United States dollars;2.

Bank of New Zealand, Account No. XX-XXXX-XXXX200-04, in thename of Cleaver Richards Trust Account for Megastuff Limited;3.

Kiwibank, Account No. XX-XXXX-XXXX922-00, in the name of Megastuff Limited Nominee Account No. 1;4.

Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited in Auckland, NewZealand, Account No. XXXXXXXXXXXX2088, in the name of BRAMVAN DER KOLK;5.

Citibank, Account No. XXXXXX3053, in the name of Megacard, Inc.;6.

Citibank, Account No. XXXXXX3066, in the name of Megasite, Inc.;7.

Stadtsparkasse München, Account No. XXXX4734, in the name of FINN BATATO;8.

Commerzbank, Account No. XXXXXXXX4800, in the name of SVEN ECHTERNACH;9.

Deutsche Bank AG, Account No. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX6600, in thename of MATHIAS ORTMANN;10.

Computershare Investor Services Limited, Holder No. XXXX4385, in thename of KIM DOTCOM (New Zealand Government Bonds);11.

Development Bank of Singapore, Account No. XXXXXX0320, in thename of MEGAUPLOAD LTD.;12.

Development Bank of Singapore - Vickers Securities, Account No.XX1901, in the name of MEGAUPLOAD LTD.;13.

Development Bank of Singapore-Vickers Securities, Account No.XXX089-4, in the name of Megamedia Ltd.;14.

Hang Seng Bank Ltd., Account No. XXXXXX78-833, in the name of Megamedia Ltd.;15.

Hang Seng Bank, Account No. XXXXXXXX8001, in the name of Megamedia Ltd.;16.

Hang Seng Bank, Account No. XXX-XXXX48-382, in the name of Megamedia Ltd.

Development Bank of Singapore, Account No. XXXXX5252, in the nameof Megamusic Limited;18.

Development Bank of Singapore, Account No. XXXXX0060, in the nameof MEGAUPLOAD LTD.;19.

Hang Seng Bank, Account No. XXX-XXXX75-883, in the name of MEGAUPLOAD LTD.;20.

Westpac Bank, Account No. XX-XXXX-XXXX847-02, in the name of Simpson Grierson Trust Account, holder KIM DOTCOM.21.

Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited, Account Nos.XXX-XXXXX6-220/XXXX6-201/XXXXX6-838, in the name of MEGAUPLOAD LTD.;22.

Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited, Account No.XXXXXXXX5833, in the name of FINN BATATO;23.

Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited, Account No.XXX-XXXXX5-833, in the name of an individual with the initials BVL;24.

Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited, Account No.XXXXXXXX8833, in the name of ANDRUS NOMM;25.

Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited, Account No.XXXXXXXX3833, in the name of BRAM VAN DER KOLK;26.

Hang Seng Bank Ltd., Account No. XXX-XXXX52-888, in the name of KIM TIM JIM VESTOR;27.

Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation, AccountNo. XXXXXXXX7833, in the name of SVEN ECHTERNACH;28.

Development Bank of Singapore, Account No. XXXXXX6160, in thename of VESTOR LIMITED;29.

Citibank (Hong Kong) Limited, Account No. XXXX8921, in the name of KIM TIM JIM VESTOR;30.

Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited, AccountNo. XXXXXXXX4833, in the name of MATHIAS ORTMANN;31.

Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited, Account No.XXXXXXXX6888, in the name of an individual with the initials JPLL;32.

Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited, AccountNo. XXXXXXXX9833, in the name of JULIUS BENCKO;33.

Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited, AccountNo. XXXXXXXX2838, in the name of RNK Media Company;34.

Development Bank of Singapore Hong Kong, Account No.XXXXXX6930, in the name of A Limited;

6835.

Development Bank of Singapore, Account No. XXXXX1690, in the nameof A Limited;36.

Citibank (Hong Kong) Limited, Account No. XXXX6237, in the name of KIM TIM JIM VESTOR;37.

Development Bank of Singapore, Account No. XXXXXX9970, in thename of KIM DOTCOM/KIM VESTOR;38.

Citibank (Hong Kong) Limited, Account No. XXXX8942, in the name of KIM TIM JIM VESTOR;39.

Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited, AccountNo. XXX-XXXX16-888, in the name of KIM TIM JIM VESTOR;40.

Industrial and Commercial Bank of China (Asia) Limited (ICBC),Account No. XXXXXXXX8434, in the name of MATHIAS ORTMANN;41.

Development Bank of Singapore, Account No. XXXXXX4440, in thename of Megapay Ltd.;42.

Development Bank of Singapore, Account No. XXX-XXX-XXXXXX8760, in the name of Megastuff Ltd.;43.

Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited, AccountNo. XXXXXXXX6838, in the name of MEGAUPLOAD LTD.;44.

Development Bank of Singapore, Account No. XXX-XXX-XXXXXX8870, in the name of N-1 Limited;45.

Development Bank of Singapore, Account No. XXX-XXX-XXXXXX1980, in the name of N-1 Limited;46.

Citibank (Hong Kong) Limited, Account No. XXXXX 0741, in the nameof KIM TIM JIM VESTOR;47.

Citibank (Hong Kong) Limited, Account No. XXXXX0768, in the nameof KIM TIM JIM VESTOR;48.

Citibank (Hong Kong) Limited, Account No. XXXXX1055, in the nameof KIM TIM JIM VESTOR;49.

Citibank (Hong Kong) Limited, Account No. XXXXX9938, in the nameof KIM TIM JIM VESTOR;50.

Citibank (Hong Kong) Limited, Account No. XXXXX8948, in the nameof KIM TIM JIM VESTOR;51.

Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation, Account No.XXXXXXXX0833, in the name of an individual with the initials LRV;52.

Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation, Account No. XXX-XXXXX04-888, in the name of an individual with the initials WT;

6953.

Bank of the Philippine Islands, Account No. XXXXXX0069, in the nameof Megateam Limited;54.

Bank of the Philippine Islands, Account No. XXXXXX0264, in the nameof Megateam Limited;55.

Bank of the Philippine Islands, Account No. XXXXXX3627, in the nameof KIM SCHMITZ;56.

Bank of the Philippine Islands, Account No. XXXXXX7676, in the nameof KIM SCHMITZ;57.

Rabobank Nederland, Account No. NLXXXXXXXXXXXX7300, in thename of Bramos BV;58.

Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Australia, AccountNo. XXXXXXXX0087, in the name of MATHIAS ORTMANN;59.

Ceskoslovenska Obchodna Banka Slovakia, Account No.XXXXXXXX9833, in the name of JULIUS BENCKO;60.

Paypal Inc., account [email protected];61.

Paypal Inc., account belonging to KIM DOTCOM([email protected]);62.

Paypal Inc., accounts belonging to SVEN ECHTERNACH([email protected], [email protected], [email protected]);63.

Paypal Inc., account belonging to BRAM VAN DER KOLK([email protected]);64.

Moneybookers Limited, account belonging [email protected];

65.

Moneybookers Limited, account belonging [email protected];
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Main reason was money laundry. File sharing is just a minor cosmetic retouch to this affair that makes it look better in public.
BINGO...After reading the arstech articles its seriously about money laundering and racketeering. FEDS go after money. It finances them...Anyone with similar operations should be turning their diapers to poo.
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BINGO...After reading the arstech articles its seriously about money laundering and racketeering.
money laundering and racketeering are just called business , unless you are doing something else illegal. thus the dmca is what fucked them.

if they hadn't uploaded videos themselves, ignored dmca complaints and repeat infringers they wouldn't have any case of money laundering or racketeering.



or i should say , if they hadn't admitted all of the above in emails lol

the big porn tubes and filelockers are likely purging all email accounts as we speak
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Fuck thats awesome.

Got links on where this info is coming from.. I want to start adding them to my DMCA's

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heres the full indictment http://www.scribd.com/doc/78786408/Mega-Indictment
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Nice. Going to add that to the DMCA's I am sending out today. hahahahahha..
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Seems like Lease Web is going to loose a big client, megaupload had there 600+ servers racked
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how many times have the gfy OWNERS posted copyright mp3's on gfy ?

never..
I'm sure one of them has posted a song from youtube once or twice.
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I'm sure one of them has posted a song from youtube once or twice.
thats not what MU is in trouble for , they are in trouble for ripping/posting and hosting the stolen content.

none of the gfy owners have EVER posted and hosted stolen music on gfy..

You must see a difference in
posting a video from youtube that purports to be legal
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hosting a video you know is stolen because you stole it..
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still, illegal business transactions .... that's the point.

Like they got Al Capone .... not with real shit, but with mail fraud.
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That's not a bad idea.
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Hope they kill all the GF sites for that same reason. I am certain FBI has access to their gmail accounts ;-P
I still dont understand why do you think the gf sites with real amateur / gf submissions are the same as sites that are stealing production companies copyright materials? can you explain please?
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I still dont understand why do you think the gf sites with real amateur / gf submissions are the same as sites that are stealing production companies copyright materials? can you explain please?
Because most GF sites contain copyrighted and/or unlicensed material. You have to know this already..
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Main reason was money laundry. File sharing is just a minor cosmetic retouch to this affair that makes it look better in public.
I don't get this, if you can make millions a year by running a file locker then why would you bother laundring money?
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I don't get this, if you can make millions a year by running a file locker then why would you bother laundring money?
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what about hoodtube.com there is loads of videos on there from youtube
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I don't get this, if you can make millions a year by running a file locker then why would you bother laundring money?
when you stick a check in the bank , it is called depositing a check..

if you sold some crack , got paid with a check and deposit in your bank , it's called money laundering

money laundering is simply a byproduct of a criminal act involving money
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what about hoodtube.com there is loads of videos on there from youtube
i think the clincher is megaupload went about directly transferring youtube videos to MU. Not only that but they detailed it in emails.

I'm sure most pawnshops have alot of stolen goods, its much different if the pawnshop is actually breaking into your house to steal the goods.

youtube has loads of videos that are stolen/copyright themselves , but they aren't actively stealing them .
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what about hoodtube.com
Hood Tube is next. No file locker site had a problem up until black entertainment superstars revealed their support of MU. Then MU gets bitch-slapped, while the KKK-friendly file lockers remain untouched. Coincidence?
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I still dont understand why do you think the gf sites with real amateur / gf submissions are the same as sites that are stealing production companies copyright materials? can you explain please?
Because many GF sites (not all, but many) do download content and submit it to themselves or they hire people to do the job for them utilizing public proxies. Anyhow, they have no rights to use the content unless they produced it and/or received permission from depicted persons.
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when you stick a check in the bank , it is called depositing a check..

if you sold some crack , got paid with a check and deposit in your bank , it's called money laundering

money laundering is simply a byproduct of a criminal act involving money
you're not even close
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Because many GF sites (not all, but many) do download content and submit it to themselves or they hire people to do the job for them utilizing public proxies. Anyhow, they have no rights to use the content unless they produced it and/or received permission from depicted persons.

one thing i have learned bout adult,... when surfers do it its evil content theft, but when pornographers copy a Transofmers DVD or XMen, or link a scene from Kill Bill on youtube, its not really an edited, uploaded pirated scene. Its, ya know,... free entertainment.

So yes, pictures of girls who they have no documented right to use and was "submitted" is perfectly fine.
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you're not even close
The law is extremely broad and is often used by the gov to pile on charges. It pretty much covers any time you use any financial institution with any ill gotten gains, you are money laundering.

Federal Criminal Law Statutes (Title 18 sections 1956 & 1957, United States Code - look it up.
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The law is extremely broad and is often used by the gov to pile on charges. It pretty much covers any time you use any financial institution with any ill gotten gains, you are money laundering.

Federal Criminal Law Statutes (Title 18 sections 1956 & 1957, United States Code - look it up.
i am familiar with the law. the simple fact that you made money (legally or not) and deposited that money into a bank, does not constitute an act of money laundering.
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i am familiar with the law. the simple fact that you made money (legally or not) and deposited that money into a bank, does not constitute an act of money laundering.
Whoever transports, transmits, or transfers, or attempts to transport, transmit, or transfer a monetary instrument or funds from a place in the United States to or through a place outside the United States or to a place in the United States from or through a place outside the United States?
(A) with the intent to promote the carrying on of specified unlawful activity; or
(B) knowing that the monetary instrument or funds involved in the transportation, transmission, or transfer represent the proceeds of some form of unlawful activity and knowing that such transportation, transmission, or transfer is designed in whole or in part?

Like I said the law is pretty broad and it looks like it covers everything, but I'm not a lawyer so I could be wrong


http://www.teakelllaw.com/money-laundering/

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Money laundering basically means making money illegally and then running it through a legal business making it appear that the money was made legally, making the money 'clean'. Taxes are usually paid and in some countries there are no laws against it.
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