Clips 4 sale

[femdomdestiny]

I can find so much good content on clips for sale, but all those people don't have own sites. So where were they before clips 4 sale and how it is possible that they are not making paysites.

[anexsia]

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

I can find so much good content on clips for sale, but all those people don't have own sites. So where were they before clips 4 sale and how it is possible that they are not making paysites.

Same here, it's frustrating to find great content that you want to promote the hell out of only to find that all they have is a Clips 4 Sale store.

[RyuLion]

Because not everyone wants to spend $ to host, webdesign, or maybe don't want the headache..or they probably got burned too many times..

ClubDom.com #2!
http://clips4sale.com/do/list

[femdomdestiny]

Well If they are able to make content, and I am talking about quality content,how hard would be to make website. Maybe that's good idea for business , to offer to those people affordable site launching.

[Rochard]

Making content and running a program is two different things.

Making content is easy. Hell, even Paul Markham can do it. Running a program.... Paul Markham can't do that.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Making content is easy. Hell, even Paul Markham can do it. Running a program.... Paul Markham can't do that.

zing ...

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[munki]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

zing ...

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[FlexxAeon]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Been waiting for a clever person to rally up the smaller content producers and start their own tube with rev-sharing possibilities. Building the websites is truly easy, but the correct method of marketing is not. Although, I do know a small group that can easily hack off a healthy percentage of adult traffic within weeks. They just don't want to waste their time/resources buying content that might not convert.

In short, think Apple itunes.

I was involved with a project that did this from 04 - 06. Even the "itunes" part was part of the pitch

[anexsia]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Making content and running a program is two different things.

Making content is easy. Hell, even Paul Markham can do it. Running a program.... Paul Markham can't do that.

[JosephFM]

I guess that if they went ahead an build a paysite with their exclusive content, in a matter of hours all of their stuff will be available for free on pornhub, youporn and all the tubes and forums online.

[dgraves]

the top stores are making bank so i'm sure there's little motive to bother with the extra work of running a paysite. niche/fetish stuff does very well on C4S.

[icymelon]

cause you make money putting clips on there. its great for amateurs that do it part time

[buzzard]

That's the only thing I like about this place. Nobody knows how to keep their mouth shut. So much for the genius... es

[afc_Dave]

Like everything the money is not the same as it was but people did and probably still do make some very good money from C4S, so why bother with the hassle of setting up a site and worrying about affiliates etc

[SmutHammer]

I have met many people that have set up c4s sites, most have a cheap camera and a little spare time, they do not have a clue about how to operate a paysite. it's another world...

[bDok]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Making content and running a program is two different things.

Making content is easy. Hell, even Paul Markham can do it. Running a program.... Paul Markham can't do that.

LOL

[marlboroack]

This is something i need, i think.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

9 out of 10 people don't have the time, patience, diligence or work ethic to set up, run, maintain and promote a membership site. Alot of the top 50 studios make enough money to be satisfied but yea a membership site for some of them wouuld be great

Once up, the trouble of running a site is very little extra work. If you want to run a big affiliate program, yes that's a lot of work. Running a paysite isn't if you have a good CMS. Cost is design, CMS, Hosting and then you have somewhere for people who like your clips to buy full memberships and for you to upsell from.

Will this harm your business selling high price clips, or will people who see the high price for very little realise the members site is a better buy? That depends on you, your site, your content and your updates.

Will allowing a few webmasters access to send traffic be a boost? Yes, so long as they don't need their hands held and demand more attention than they're worth. There's little work required in running an affiliate program, the real work is looking after affiliates and their demands. If they're good it's worth it, if not. You're wasting your time.

I have a CMS that people can buy set to run their paysite, prices are one off and start at $3,000.

Still listen to Rochard a guy who can't shoot content or run a paysite. He knows how to not to do things.

[femdomdestiny]

Maybe I don't have enough info about revenue from clips 4sale, but I was running paysite that was making $5000 monthly without promo content , with updates that were late sometimes more then 3 or 4 months, without experience and promotion tool was one or two ugly banners (alll on shared virtual hosting). Also, why would anyone give 10 bucks or more for a clip if you can buy whole archive for $29.95 or something like that?

I am not talking about sites with thousands of members. I am thinking about niche sites because there is so much good fetish content on clips4sale (from my experience members of those sites rebill for a long time). And costs are really low to start some kind of paysite. You can run memeber zone on wordpress,use cheap hosting and invest in pasword protection software. Still better then not having your own site.(if we assume that there is content already available).

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Maybe I don't have enough info about revenue from clips 4sale, but I was running paysite that was making $5000 monthly without promo content , with updates that were late sometimes more then 3 or 4 months, without experience and promotion tool was one or two ugly banners (alll on shared virtual hosting). Also, why would anyone give 10 bucks or more for a clip if you can buy whole archive for $29.95 or something like that?

I am not talking about sites with thousands of members. I am thinking about niche sites because there is so much good fetish content on clips4sale (from my experience members of those sites rebill for a long time). And costs are really low to start some kind of paysite. You can run memeber zone on wordpress,use cheap hosting and invest in pasword protection software. Still better then not having your own site.(if we assume that there is content already available).

Precisely. Running a paysite at a profit is a piece of piss. If you have the right content.

You don't need 1,000s of affiliates bleating they don't have enough 10 minute free hosted Tube clips, so they can sell ads to dating sites.

Telling you they want a size banner you don't have and they want it yesterday.

Telling you they want sample content with their domain on it and they want $40 a sign up. Or more.

Running a paysite is a piece of piss. Looking after good affiliates isn't that hard. Looking after the dead beat affiliates, is a ton of work and f you tell them to they post all about it on the boards.

Running it on WordPress is a lot of work IMO. Depends if you have the money for a CMS that does the work for you or have the time to do the work and cant afford a few grand.

[CIVMatt]

For most people selling clips is WAY more profitable then trying to run a paysite

[porno jew]

i used to promote paul's site back in the day. it just didn't sell. the surfers didn't want it.

he projects his paysite experience onto everyone else, when in reality surfers just didn't want to join his site. he has no idea that some sites sell and surfers want to join them. i never need a sponsor to "hold my hand." i never contact them unless it's about a payout or address change or something. my sales are just free money for them support wise.

[MsCheyenne]

A lot of C4S store owners have zero interest in web sites. My experience is that both are good to have. Why not sell the content in as many lucrative avenues as possible? However, when I suggest this to my C4S friends, their eyes glaze over.

Cheyenne
clubdom.com
clips4sale.com/5751

[SmutHammer]

wow, you guys make it sound like starting a pay site is easy and cheap, and affiliate site is easy as well?!?! just making the affiliate tools is extremely time consuming, and costs a lot more than the average clips4sale producer can afford. having a pay site and affiliate program is a full time job for a team, one person is not going to be able to do a decent job at it. and thousands a month just to maintain your website may not sound like much to you, but it is to the normal person. not to mention the set up costs. clips4sale is pretty much free for them to use, they just kick out a percentage instead of actually having to spend money.

[The Porn Nerd]

This is why MY deal is the #1 Best deal in the Adult Industry:

Send me your content, I build you a paysite and handle everything (hosting, payouts from CCBill, updates, traffic, promotion, tools, affiliate program, the whole nine yards) and all YOU do is cash a fucking check.

Amazing how few jump on this. Maybe they can't believe how awesome this deal really is.

Free money anyone? LOL (Unless, of course, i reject you and your content, which happens.)

[tony286]

why sell your whole content catalogue for $20 when you can sell one clip for $20? Alot of clip buyers got burned and would rather buy one clip at a time.

[SmutHammer]

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

This is why MY deal is the #1 Best deal in the Adult Industry:

Send me your content, I build you a paysite and handle everything (hosting, payouts from CCBill, updates, traffic, promotion, tools, affiliate program, the whole nine yards) and all YOU do is cash a fucking check.

Amazing how few jump on this. Maybe they can't believe how awesome this deal really is.

Free money anyone? LOL (Unless, of course, i reject you and your content, which happens.)

Seen you around forever and never knew you did this, would have come in handy years ago, before I built my program, but I guess some things happen for a reason. still good info to know.

[Supz]

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Maybe I don't have enough info about revenue from clips 4sale, but I was running paysite that was making $5000 monthly without promo content , with updates that were late sometimes more then 3 or 4 months, without experience and promotion tool was one or two ugly banners (alll on shared virtual hosting). Also, why would anyone give 10 bucks or more for a clip if you can buy whole archive for $29.95 or something like that?

I am not talking about sites with thousands of members. I am thinking about niche sites because there is so much good fetish content on clips4sale (from my experience members of those sites rebill for a long time). And costs are really low to start some kind of paysite. You can run memeber zone on wordpress,use cheap hosting and invest in pasword protection software. Still better then not having your own site.(if we assume that there is content already available).

A big reason is C4S has its own traffic also. You can bring your own to the store, as well as they will bring traffic for you. You can catch an eye with there users.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Seen you around forever and never knew you did this, would have come in handy years ago, before I built my program, but I guess some things happen for a reason. still good info to know.

Yeah, didnt get it rocking until about 2010 but I hear ya. Doing it yourself is always the way to go, if you can manage it. many cannot. The best "partners" are those looking to maximize profits and are essentially happy with whatever 'free money" is generated. With rebills it can be a nice additional revenue stream.

Good luck with what you got goin' on!

[Trend]

Just returned from a week in FL with 4 couples who's stores are consistently in the top 25 at C4S .. they are doing quite well, have their own "system" and zero interest in building / managing a paysite... hell none of them even blog, tweet, FB etc.

I was a tad envious.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by Trend

Just returned from a week in FL with 4 couples who's stores are consistently in the top 25 at C4S .. they are doing quite well, have their own "system" and zero interest in building / managing a paysite... hell none of them even blog, tweet, FB etc.

I was a tad envious.

That's my Gay porn screenname: Tad Envious. (It's Greek)

[dgraves]

i have a link on each store to my paysites and i'm sure most click through to buy a membership but i do get regulars that buy every single clip that i put up. i can understand clip sales from foreign countries that are probably blocked by CCBill but i get many US customers that do the same thing.

i could never figure out why someone would buy a single Standard Definition clip for $19.95 when they can get everything in HD for $29.95.

it blows me away when someone buys $300 worth of clips at a time! i'm not complaining by any means, just surprised.

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Been waiting for a clever person to rally up the smaller content producers and start their own tube with rev-sharing possibilities. Building the websites is truly easy, but the correct method of marketing is not. Although, I do know a small group that can easily hack off a healthy percentage of adult traffic within weeks. They just don't want to waste their time/resources buying content that might not convert.

In short, think Apple itunes.

Basically you're saying that we need tubes that tube content uploaded by producers only, small and big ones. Great idea but for that people need to work together and that never worked in the porn biz because of paranoid distrust. And people who sell their content on c4s don't need new tubes or other new ideas because c4s works great for them. I shoot with models who have their own websites and tell me that they make more money from selling clips on c4s than from their own sites.

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by Trend

Just returned from a week in FL with 4 couples who's stores are consistently in the top 25 at C4S .. they are doing quite well, have their own "system" and zero interest in building / managing a paysite... hell none of them even blog, tweet, FB etc.

I was a tad envious.

Is one of them Charlee Chase?

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Yeah, didnt get it rocking until about 2010 but I hear ya. Doing it yourself is always the way to go, if you can manage it. many cannot. The best "partners" are those looking to maximize profits and are essentially happy with whatever 'free money" is generated. With rebills it can be a nice additional revenue stream.

Good luck with what you got goin' on!

Please to tell percentage

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Been waiting for a clever person to rally up the smaller content producers and start their own tube with rev-sharing possibilities. Building the websites is truly easy, but the correct method of marketing is not. Although, I do know a small group that can easily hack off a healthy percentage of adult traffic within weeks. They just don't want to waste their time/resources buying content that might not convert.

In short, think Apple itunes.

This would be great.

[dgraves]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

Basically you're saying that we need tubes that tube content uploaded by producers only, small and big ones. Great idea but for that people need to work together and that never worked in the porn biz because of paranoid distrust. And people who sell their content on c4s don't need new tubes or other new ideas because c4s works great for them. I shoot with models who have their own websites and tell me that they make more money from selling clips on c4s than from their own sites.

it's better business model than a membership site.

[SmutHammer]

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Yeah, didnt get it rocking until about 2010 but I hear ya. Doing it yourself is always the way to go, if you can manage it. many cannot. The best "partners" are those looking to maximize profits and are essentially happy with whatever 'free money" is generated. With rebills it can be a nice additional revenue stream.

Good luck with what you got goin' on!

that would be the reason why, I was "on break" at that time. heh... and was sitting on all my content until a friend opened a company and offered to put up our site, and assume all responsibilities. They didn't stick to our agreement and we argued the whole time, then after they closed down, we immediately started our own program.

good luck on your ventures too! if I have any more girls asking for a situation like this I'll let u know.

[babydred]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Been waiting for a clever person to rally up the smaller content producers <edit>...

Sorry to revive an old thread, but, smaller content producers like who?

[dave90210]

How the hell do you get seen on Clips4Sale when they have millions of clips for sale?

[magicmodels]

Originally Posted by icymelon

cause you make money putting clips on there. its great for amateurs that do it part time

For those that haven't seen c4s lately a lot of the bigger web guys are now opening stores on there. Must be doing something right. I agree, why not put your content into as many opportunity's for sale as you can. I'm a small time content seller and c4s is a good outlet for me. The main problem for me is that a lot of the girls that i work with come and go, so it would be hard to do sites with constancy... Not to mention the wide range of girls and fetishes I can use on c4s....

[femdomdestiny]

Originally Posted by magicmodels

For those that haven't seen c4s lately a lot of the bigger web guys are now opening stores on there. Must be doing something right. I agree, why not put your content into as many opportunity's for sale as you can. I'm a small time content seller and c4s is a good outlet for me. The main problem for me is that a lot of the girls that i work with come and go, so it would be hard to do sites with constancy... Not to mention the wide range of girls and fetishes I can use on c4s....

that's why I am loosing sales probably. I will kick out sponsol sites selling clips on their site and membership together.

[acctman]

less exposure on Clips 4 sale than a website... once you have a website good luck ever trying to hide yourself.