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Old 01-27-2012, 01:50 AM   #1
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How many blogs would you host on 1 server?

Tell me.
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:12 AM   #3
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How long is a piece of string?

Seriously, it all depends man..
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:16 AM   #4
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Well i'm talking what's best seo wise. If i'm seperate c classes then i don't need several servers?
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None... fuck blogs.
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:20 AM   #6
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Only thing you need to worry about is posting unique and quality content homie. You can have 1000 blogs on 1 ip and be aight as far as SEO.

For link trading it's different because so many people are brain washed by seo hocus pocus... Google ain't fooled my nigga.
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I don't know shit about SEO thats why i'm asking.
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In a few days i will have 40 blogs all updated with unique content daily. By next month i'll have about 100. Just making sure i start out as good as possible.

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Well i'm talking what's best seo wise. If i'm seperate c classes then i don't need several servers?
As long as they're not the exact same niche or link to each other, as many as your server can handle. Don't forget to use a caching plugin though, even if each blog only gets a few hits a day or so, they will end up putting a strain on the server combined. ESPECIALLY if you have other plugins installed, generating many db requests for each hit.
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As long as they're not the exact same niche or link to each other, as many as your server can handle. Don't forget to use a caching plugin though, even if each blog only gets a few hits a day or so, they will end up putting a strain on the server combined. ESPECIALLY if you have other plugins installed, generating many db requests for each hit.
Do you have a link to such plugin?

And so i don't want to link blogs that are on the same server to eachother? Is that correct?
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Do you have a link to such plugin?

And so i don't want to link blogs that are on the same server to eachother? Is that correct?
I use this:
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-super-cache/
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I used a script that let me autogenerate Wordpress blogs, I ran hundreds of blogs from the same database without any problem.


When it comes to SEO I always try to place blogs in different niches on the same IP because I usually interlink my nicheblogs and want them on different IPs.
Make sure the domains you want to interlink got different whois-info or use private whois.
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What do you guys think about using a place like blogger (besides your own domains). Like 10% of your blogs on sites like that?
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WP Super Cache.

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And so i don't want to link blogs that are on the same server to eachother? Is that correct?
Right. Additionally, try to stay away from doing tons of links trades via footer links, as well as reciprocal linking. Google could potentially nail you for "link scheming" with the result of having all your incoming links devalued. Or, worst-case scenario, penalize you for that. There have been quite a few examples of this happening.

Use A-B-C link trades, preferably placed in your blogroll. If you could trade posts with contextual backlinks to your own sites, that would be even better.
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Right. Additionally, try to stay away from doing tons of links trades via footer links, as well as reciprocal linking. Google could potentially nail you for "link scheming" with the result of having all your incoming links devalued. Or, worst-case scenario, penalize you for that. There have been quite a few examples of this happening.

Use A-B-C link trades, preferably placed in your blogroll. If you could trade posts with contextual backlinks to your own sites, that would be even better.
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Do you have a link to such plugin?

And so i don't want to link blogs that are on the same server to eachother? Is that correct?
Google values blogs based on their content. It is not bad having 100 blogs on one server all with the same ip. You can even interlink the domains.

If you run rss feeds on all the blogs and none of the text is unique is well hurt your ranking for particular keywords.

Another negative aspect of interlinking is when you want to trade hardlinks with someone, they will notice that you have a lot of outgoing links so that will hurt you in the long run.

Seo is ever changing when it comes to google, but don't be afraid to try new things.

Remember keyword density on your blog, a sitemap so a spider/robot can crawl easily, and a quality seo plugin ( all in one or cyber seo.)

when updating posts keep scheduled dates and updates in the same orderly fashion each month. Don't update daily then go weekly, keep things constant si google will come to you when they are suppose to.

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You can link to whatever is relevant man... even if it's yours and on the same server/ip/etc. Just keep the content unique.

Edit: Oops, the guy above me basically said the same shit. Bottom line, don't get caught up in the SEO nonsense. That shit is like the religions of the cyber world. Google's job is to give the people what they want from the web, not to come up with silly hurdles for legit webmasters.

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What do you guys think about using a place like blogger (besides your own domains). Like 10% of your blogs on sites like that?
Free hosts are good for link building
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You can link to whatever is relevant man... even if it's yours and on the same server/ip/etc. Just keep the content unique.

Edit: Oops, the guy above me basically said the same shit. Bottom line, don't get caught up in the SEO nonsense. That shit is like the religions of the cyber world. Google's job is to give the people what they want from the web, not to come up with silly hurdles for webmasters.
I like how you think.
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You can link to whatever is relevant man... even if it's yours and on the same server/ip/etc. Just keep the content unique.

Edit: Oops, the guy above me basically said the same shit. Bottom line, don't get caught up in the SEO nonsense. That shit is like the religions of the cyber world. Google's job is to give the people what they want from the web, not to come up with silly hurdles for legit webmasters.
Well my main goal is to write unique daily content as i think that's most imporant indeed. I build these sites for surfers, not webmasters
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i put 5 sites per ip on server, not any of them are interlinked nor in same niche, currently i have 66ips on one server 6 different c classes, with 5 sites on each around 330 sites.. i interlink sites that are in same niche but not more than 5 my links on site, the rest are a>b>c trades, no more than 40 outbound links per site. Google like relevant content but it will give you penalty if you over do it with your own stuff. for example interlinking 20 of your sites. To your last post, you don't need to update every site daily, once in every 3-5 days is very reasonable for blogs.
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i put 5 sites per ip on server, not any of them are interlinked nor in same niche, currently i have 66ips on one server 6 different c classes, with 5 sites on each around 330 sites.. i interlink sites that are in same niche but not more than 5 my links on site, the rest are a>b>c trades, no more than 40 outbound links per site. Google like relevant content but it will give you penalty if you over do it with your own stuff. for example interlinking 20 of your sites. To your last post, you don't need to update every site daily, once in every 3-5 days is very reasonable for blogs.
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i put 5 sites per ip on server, not any of them are interlinked nor in same niche, currently i have 66ips on one server 6 different c classes, with 5 sites on each around 330 sites.. i interlink sites that are in same niche but not more than 5 my links on site, the rest are a>b>c trades, no more than 40 outbound links per site. Google like relevant content but it will give you penalty if you over do it with your own stuff. for example interlinking 20 of your sites. To your last post, you don't need to update every site daily, once in every 3-5 days is very reasonable for blogs.
Great info! So you host all 330 sites on 1 server?
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How many blogs will honestly depend on the resources available.

You could have 10,000 blogs on a robust server. Assuming most get little to no traffic. However, if you have someone with a powerhouse blog, it could gobble up all of a servers resources if you are not careful. You would simply need to provide more details for an accurate answer.

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Dirty F you've been with GFY since 2001 and you dont know basic webmastering thigs? Hmmm hard to believe. I think you wanna reach 60k posts by any means )
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As long as they're not the exact same niche or link to each other, as many as your server can handle. Don't forget to use a caching plugin though, even if each blog only gets a few hits a day or so, they will end up putting a strain on the server combined. ESPECIALLY if you have other plugins installed, generating many db requests for each hit.
what he generally said. don't over do it on the plugins, not needed. try not to interlink between the blogs use a service like linkspun to find trades and link each blog out.
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not utilizing seo for this will make your network worthless. where is the traffic going to come from? a large part of your time should be in research before hand, keyword research, domain research.
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Dirty F you've been with GFY since 2001 and you dont know basic webmastering thigs? Hmmm hard to believe. I think you wanna reach 60k posts by any means )
I know a lot of things. A blog network honestly isn't one of them.
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Five at most, but it's not what you think. The good ole' days of having 40 blogs on one server with different class "c" as you interlink between them are long over. You need to think WPMU and members accounts more then a single blog.

This way you won't get tripped up when google checks BL's of your members blogs. Also, when you BL, make sure to make good use of a proxy with real ISP's. If you go cheep, aol will do for a month or two, but now is the time to buy accounts from Comcast, Verizon, etc. as there are services shared via teamviewer.

Good luck and please kill yourself when done.
Well fuck me, you're saying the total opposite of what everyone else is saying here.
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Well, if it was 2008 everyone would be right. The irony is the tools are all here as they're cheep as fuck to get started. The only problem is if you don't have the older domains. Although, this method works great for MS, I honestly don't know, but don't think the 2008 blog farm method would work well in adult these days.
We'll see. By monday i'll have 80 blogs on free blog network to start. Then i'll add another 100 or so on a ded server.
Although i don't know much about blogs and seo i do know a lot about selling selling sites and i would need to fuck up real bad not to make profit out of this.

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How many blogs will honestly depend on the resources available.

You could have 10,000 blogs on a robust server. Assuming most get little to no traffic. However, if you have someone with a powerhouse blog, it could gobble up all of a servers resources if you are not careful. You would simply need to provide more details for an accurate answer.

what he said - blogs aren't even data intensive, so I'd say you could have easily 200 blogs getting 10k daily hits, without a problem. Dedicated server with 16GB RAM of course, cos blogs are often mysql driven, which needs the ram...
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You'll be fine, you're already starting out better than most. You have an army of indians or something? Who's doing all the writing? You?
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If you *really* want my advice, go NoSQL.... drop these shitty mysql blogs and go nosql. That shit is fast... and not at all memory intensive. Simply key-value pairs.
Then you could run a ton on a single server....

too many people have slipped mysql under the belt as the de facto db standard and it's crap. imvho.
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You'll be fine, you're already starting out better than most. You have an army of indians or something? Who's doing all the writing? You?
Obviously not me
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If you *really* want my advice, go NoSQL.... drop these shitty mysql blogs and go nosql. That shit is fast... and not at all memory intensive. Simply key-value pairs.
Then you could run a ton on a single server....

too many people have slipped mysql under the belt as the de facto db standard and it's crap. imvho.
What blog software do you use for that?
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MySQL is fine... Just get someone to properly tune it and the rest of the stack... Then stick Varnish Cache in front of it
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Amazing how everyone says something different.
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Like I said, SEO is like the religions of the cyber world. Everybody got they own customs of how to serve the big G. Me, I just serve the surfers.

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What blog software do you use for that?
sorry, I'm all 100% custom. Never used anything "out of the box" for a server in my life
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:34 PM   #46
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sorry, I'm all 100% custom. Never used anything "out of the box" for a server in my life
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did you know you can blog from your calendar... if you have a caldav server like google calendar, apple ical server, or your own flavour of caldav (I recommend sabredav). Then write a simple script to pull blogs from that....

your own custom blog and all you do is add text to a calendar on a date.

simple as that and no mysql involved.
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A couple hundred if they are done well.

But I wouldn't link them together or target the same keywords with them.
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They want quality user experience from pages that rank well for relevant queries. Just pretend it's human reviewed and nothing gets past them. That way you dont need to worry about details.
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dont over think it... having several IPs make no sense, seriously..

there are tumblr blogs that get 10K per day and are hosted among other 3000 sites in the same ip.

there are domain names in private servers with a dedicated IP and host, who get 100 hits per day.. easy.
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Well, I understand you're fishing and I am in great mood, so I'll pitch a method that works well. 80 free blogs is way too much in the beginning as the setup ie., foundation for (MS) can take up to year if done correctly. You needed to start with 10 free blogs as they will developed over time. Meaning, none of the blogs should ever be created in the same account, email, IP. All separate. You can buy 50 for $100 to your specified niche or do it yourself if you have the time.

Once they're established and built correctly, never have them look the same and blogroll them only in the same niche. Then drop WPMU on an older domain and make sure to turn "off" the public viewing for the members blogs. Then buy CyberSEO full version, easily loaded in WPMU accounts matching the free blogs you've created, pull feeds, wash, and then use another plugin to update the free blogs, depending on the blog service you're using.

Let it work automatically as it pulls feeds, washed them, and then post to your free blog. Then BL the fuck out of the free blog in the correct niche resource. After 3-5 months pull the feed and stop posting on the free blog with a link that you moved to your WPMU blog that you now make public. In short, you just created a perfect feeder as you NEVER link your feeders.

There are other tricks you discover like when to delete the feeder when the heat comes down. The best tool is to get the correct stats counter for a free blog and look for daily for Google manual checks. They come out of India as most surf on a Mac and if you get one of these, immediately delete the feeder before they escalate the ticket.

Rinse and repeat and in 14 months you have a money making empire depending on what you're selling. Also, as complicated as this sounds, you'll pick up tools to make all this simple to manage and control. But I highly recommend you only go with 10 first because it's just too much to manage as you learn the ropes. In short, the first 10 I set up took a month, as it now takes less then a day.
Yes, i'm fishing. And i'm getting tons of great info
Thanks for explaining this method. Not sure if it's the way i want to go but i for sure will read into it a bit more. Appreciate your help. One last question though.
"Meaning, none of the blogs should ever be created in the same account, email, IP. All separate.".

Why? Who doesn't like this and how will they check it? And if you don't mind me telling where could i buy 50 accounts for 100 bucks? Thanks for your time.
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