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Old 01-27-2012, 01:04 AM   #1
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Fucking Dutch cunts

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Dear sir/madam,
In response to your complaint I inform you.

Thanks for contacting LeaseWeb. LeaseWeb has a policy banning illegal
distribution of copyrighted material.
In order to process copyright infringement claims, please ensure you
claim adheres to the Dutch Notice and Takedown Code of Conduct. This
means you have to first contact the infringing website, only if they do
not reply or their reply is unsatisfactory you can escalate to the
hosting provider. Please include a copy of your communication(s) with
the website when you file your claim again.
Failure to adhere to the Dutch Notice and Takedown Code of Conduct will
mean that we will request you to first contact the infringing website.
This will result in a considerable delay in processing your complaint.
As you have not indicated or proved you have tried to contact the
website please follow the procedure as described above, please allow 5
working days for a response from the website. If you have not received a
response after 5 days you can contact us again. Please provide proof you
contacted or tried to contact the website so we can process your claim
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If you have already done all the above, then please respond to this
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:08 AM   #2
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:25 AM   #3
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I don't get it - it sounds reasonable, doesn't it? First contact the site owner, then if no response, or unsatisfactory response, contact the ISP with details of communications.

Why is that unreasonable?
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:50 AM   #6
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I don't get it - it sounds reasonable, doesn't it? First contact the site owner, then if no response, or unsatisfactory response, contact the ISP with details of communications.

Why is that unreasonable?
i've gone through this with them before - fuck them, any other host in the world accepts a DMCA abuse complaint at face value as a copyright infringement complaint, whether the DMCA is an American law or not. They host more piracy than any host on the planet. they just like to laugh at content owners and make it more difficult.
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Mutt, I know that Lease are a Dutch based company but perhaps worth trying to reach their U.S support staff to see if the response is any different?

I know when I have had dealings with them (not copyright issues but sales matters) their U.S staff have quoted totally different things to me than their Dutch colleagues.
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Got that from them to. So I send my DMCA's to their Upstream provider.

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DMCA is not a Dutch law, they want you to follow the Dutch way, I don't see the problem here? Sure it's a bitch but people are dicks if you don't follow DMCA properly either.
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Poor Pipo. Singled out again.
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Mutt, I know that Lease are a Dutch based company but perhaps worth trying to reach their U.S support staff to see if the response is any different?

I know when I have had dealings with them (not copyright issues but sales matters) their U.S staff have quoted totally different things to me than their Dutch colleagues.
When I have contacted the US staff they just referred me back to their Dutch colleagues.

They once replied to me asking what the IP address was of the site for which I was sending the DMCA notice. They host the site! They don't can't figure out the IP address of the site they host?
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The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is a United States copyright law.

The Netherlands is not in the United States...
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The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is a United States copyright law.

The Netherlands is not in the United States...
I`m aware of the Act and the different countries/laws. The point I was making is that sometimes talking to different people within the same organisation can generate a totally different response.
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Mutt, you should do what they suggest, so that you have your proof that LeaseWeb is lying inbreed scum. This: "LeaseWeb has a policy banning illegal distribution of copyrighted material" is a lie because they don't ban anything, they will only ask the site owner to remove the file. If you want to see how this works for the other site, just open an account at Oron.com, upload something, report that file to LeaseWeb and check whether the file is really deleted or whether only the Oron link to that file is deleted.

Once you did all this you have your proof and you can join me and the other producers who are preparing a law suit against LeaseWeb.

Also, I'm Dutch, and LeaseWeb's attitude is not representative for the general Dutch attitude about thieves. LeaseWeb has been covered by Dutch media many times and most of the times it was in a very negative way. They were sued many times about copyright infringements through torrent sites and were always ordered to take these sites down, they never won a case.
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The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is a United States copyright law.

The Netherlands is not in the United States...
also what their sent you makes sense...
you first try with the site if they do not remove it - then contact them...
don't see any problems in there...

5 day delay might be too long, I'd lower that to 3 days...
but looks like Dutch folks answer emails slower...
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so whats the wwhining about...?
isnt it normal to first go to someone with whom yuo have beef with instead of going to mamy?
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Just copy the host in when you send complaints to the site direct, you are then obiding by the rules but at the same time informing the host that they have a customer who is in violation - the more that customer comes up indirectly with the host the sooner they will get fed up with them and suspend their account when the rules were followed. The site owner will also see you copied the hosts in and most will act a little quicker in removing your stuff.
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Well it wouldn't all be so bad, if only this "If you have not received a
response after 5 days you can contact us again" wouldn't be there. Because this means that everytime you find stolen content and the site owner ignores you, it will take at least 5 days before LeaseWeb will remove it, while it takes 10 minutes for the average pirate to put that file back online. So really time to take legal action against LeaseWeb now.
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