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Ann-Angelcom · 02-03-2012, 08:21 PM

When I saw the title of this email I got excited!! Wow CCbill is finally going to start verifying transactions to make sure they aren't fraudulent.....perhaps by setting up something like google has that actually texts the person's phone with the username or pin thereby verifying that they are indeed the person they say they are. Not allowing people to input false info does a great deal in
1. preventing fraud
2. deterring a user from stealing content with the purchased membership (which they do) since they now know we know who they are....in the real world.

Does anyone else feel like ccbill should be doing more to help or am I alone?

They make a ton of money from everyone but do little to help them protect their businesses. I may not know the answer. What I said above was just a thought not necessarily the way to go. I'm sure there are brighter minds out there who can come up with a simple solution to prevent fraud.

But instead all we get is a system for a user to contact ccbill if a card is declined? Super! That should solve the real problem!

Again it could be just me here thinking this stuff....maybe I'm wrong which is why I ask to see your views on this topic.

BIGTYMER · 02-03-2012, 08:33 PM

If I buy a pass to CumCoveredTeens I don't want ccbill calling me...

spunky99 · 02-03-2012, 09:10 PM

if u dont like ccbill's fraud prevention, then use a different processor.

Shedevils · 02-03-2012, 09:28 PM

Well it's another tool and that's good. If it makes more sales that's great.

But porn is such an impulse buy and it's a rather private thing. If my card was declined for a porn purchase there is no way I would call anyone. Talking to anyone and particularly a woman at that time would be a fap block. I think the real way to make more sales is to have the whole process as painless and as streamlined as possible for the end user so he buys while still in the mood.

Have to wait and see how it is implemented, as that will be what makes it work or not.

vdbucks · 02-03-2012, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shedevils

Well it's another tool and that's good. If it makes more sales that's great.

But porn is such an impulse buy and it's a rather private thing. If my card was declined for a porn purchase there is no way I would call anyone. Talking to anyone and particularly a woman at that time would be a fap block. I think the real way to make more sales is to have the whole process as painless and as streamlined as possible for the end user so he buys while still in the mood.

Have to wait and see how it is implemented, as that will be what makes it work or not.

Phone verification doesn't need to be that involved...

customer submits info
payment processor sends unique code via sms
customer enter's code
transaction approved (if no other sec flags are hit)

Could be done very similarly with an automated (robot) call...

customer submits info
payment processor calls phone and automated system gives unique code
customer enter's code
transaction approved (if no other sec flags are hit)

Sure, it would make a few ways upon initial implementation but if it became the norm then it would work fine...

Shedevils · 02-03-2012, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdbucks

Phone verification doesn't need to be that involved...

Yeah I totally agree, but I just wanted the opportunity to say "fap block".

Captain Kawaii · 02-03-2012, 10:01 PM

I think web verify is a good idea. There is no obligation for surfer to use it. Just gives them the choice. We have had members get rejected, wait 5 minutes then get accepted. personally I am glad ccbill is working to increase conversions. Thanks, ccbill.

BIGTYMER · 02-03-2012, 10:03 PM

Fap block!!

buck30 · 02-03-2012, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

If I buy a pass to CumCoveredTeens I don't want ccbill calling me...

bean-aid · 02-03-2012, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

I think web verify is a good idea. There is no obligation for surfer to use it. Just gives them the choice. We have had members get rejected, wait 5 minutes then get accepted. personally I am glad ccbill is working to increase conversions. Thanks, ccbill.

Exactly what I thought. Some times surfers *really* want to join but are turned down. I have many, many emails at my disposal to prove that. If they had the option to call and say "WTF", they likely would have and then likely been approved.

CCBill is on the right track with this one.

Ann-Angelcom · 02-03-2012, 11:25 PM

When I said phone call I meant SMS or text. Sorry wasnt clear. But why is this not being done as priority??

Let's be realistic. No one is going to call ccbill if their card is declined. They will just move on anyway.

What we need is a tool to prevent fraud and theft. It's in everyone's best interest so why isn't it being done??

bean-aid · 02-03-2012, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

When I said phone call I meant SMS or text. Sorry wasnt clear. But why is this not being done as priority??

Let's be realistic. No one is going to call ccbill if their card is declined. They will just move on anyway.

What we need is a tool to prevent fraud and theft. It's in everyone's best interest so why isn't it being done??

The email that was sent out was eluding to the fact that people who get declined, that wanted to join, now have the option presented to them on a decline page that will be automatically implemented by ccbill. That page will include a number. I 100% know that surfers that wanted to join a particular site and got rejected, some of them will then call that number and some of them will be accepted. The number is likely 5-10% increase in sales... imo.

Your stance on protecting piracy is better suited with another thread outside of what CCBill is currently offering. ***the email I got suggests this is not implemented yet but will be shortly***

Ann-Angelcom · 02-04-2012, 12:34 AM

What I said was that I got excited when I saw the email ecause I assumed they finally woke up to a better fraud prevention method. I was disappointed to see this wasn't the case.

Ann-Angelcom · 02-04-2012, 12:38 AM

Ps the same person that would call ccbill to get approved is the same person that would message us asking if we have another payment method available. Nothing changes with this tool. They should be focusing on something bigger and better with all the money they earn from webmasters. Instead they added a customer support line? Lmao. So 2003. This is 2012.

Ann-Angelcom · 02-04-2012, 12:39 AM

Sorry just venting.

Ann-Angelcom · 02-04-2012, 12:41 AM

And ps these are the same people who called me a few months ago to ask why I think our charge back rates have increased. Lol. I was like isn't that your job? Why don't you tell me since you manage my logins my charges and my customers.

bean-aid · 02-04-2012, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

And ps these are the same people who called me a few months ago to ask why I think our charge back rates have increased. Lol. I was like isn't that your job? Why don't you tell me since you manage my logins my charges and my customers.

Take a breather... you are freaking out because CCBill actually listened to their clients. They are now offering a way for legitimate sales to process, it will only increase your sales.

If you haven't figured it out yet adult transactions are very "high risk". So, that means the scrub is on. CCBill... now after years, and years, of processing... are offering a hands on solution to those that wanted to join and got rejected.

It will only help increase sales.

If you want to bitch about piracy... start a new thread.

looky_lou · 02-04-2012, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

And ps these are the same people who called me a few months ago to ask why I think our charge back rates have increased. Lol. I was like isn't that your job? Why don't you tell me since you manage my logins my charges and my customers.

And you control and manage the product. If your product isn't good, charge backs increase which hurts the processor that has no control over your product.

CHMOD · 02-04-2012, 01:22 AM

I think it is a very good move from CCBill. For years webmasters have been complaining about their Decline transactions rate

They are now offering a nnew tool to reduce the decline transactions rate, I hope webmasters won't complain on that.

Dirty F · 02-04-2012, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

What I said was that I got excited when I saw the email ecause I assumed they finally woke up to a better fraud prevention method. I was disappointed to see this wasn't the case.

Just wondering, not gonna promote or anything, does Ann do hardcore in the members area?

Joshua G · 02-04-2012, 02:09 AM

why doesnt CCBill maintain active customer accounts, pre-loaded with payment info, so buyers can join in 1-2 clicks, like amazon or paypal? seems obvious & has been done for years by said examples.

otherwise i have no problem with ccbill trying to increase conversions. no clue why the OP is so disappointed. what more should they do, especially in a business notorious for fraud.

Plus the fact CCBill does not pass chargeback fees to clients, they can scrub as hard as they want.

bean-aid · 02-04-2012, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshgirls

why doesnt CCBill maintain active customer accounts, pre-loaded with payment info, so buyers can join in 1-2 clicks, like amazon or paypal? seems obvious & has been done for years by said examples.

otherwise i have no problem with ccbill trying to increase conversions. no clue why the OP is so disappointed. what more should they do, especially in a business notorious for fraud.

Plus the fact CCBill does not pass chargeback fees to clients, they can scrub as hard as they want.

they do 1 click... it took hours and hours for me to figure that out but they do...

DWB · 02-04-2012, 02:25 AM

If it picks up a few extra sales here and there I'm all for it.

Other things I'd like to see CCbill do:

1) Set their system up to allow 1 click upgrades. I know they would never allow it to be that simple with a true 1 click, but they could do what Epoch does and have the member enter their email address for the upgrade, then boom! This could make a lot more money for everyone.

2) Bring their admin up to date. The last upgrade they did just brought them into 2002. It's so slow and awkward, I can't stand logging into it. It needs to be trimmed down and simplified.

3) Improve the quality of their chat support. Many of them tell you conflicting things and they are usually incorrect. I wouldn't be surprised if during off hours they outsource the chat to Philippines or India. It's that bad sometimes. I'd rather not have chat support at all than to have them give me wrong information all the time. There are some agents who I just disconnect from as soon as I see their name pop up because they are ALWAYS wrong.

4) Introduce a card. Program owners and affiliates would LOVE to have a CCbill card instead of wires and checks.

GARY LEE · 02-04-2012, 02:35 AM

One of my primary duties at xbiz and internext was to find a secondary processor to cascade to from ccbill. I love my ccbill but they do tend to be too picky and I have tons of customers who get declined. I found the company that I wanted to cascade to but I find myself now wanting to wait and see just how ccbill handles this.
Looks like epoch will be on my waiting list now since that is the one I picked.
Let's try this ccbill! Show me your stuff!

bean-aid · 02-04-2012, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GARY LEE

One of my primary duties at xbiz and internext was to find a secondary processor to cascade to from ccbill. I love my ccbill but they do tend to be too picky and I have tons of customers who get declined. I found the company that I wanted to cascade to but I find myself now wanting to wait and see just how ccbill handles this.
Looks like epoch will be on my waiting list now since that is the one I picked.
Let's try this ccbill! Show me your stuff!

Why are you waiting? You know they still scrub... what are you waiting for...

Mutt · 02-04-2012, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshgirls

why doesnt CCBill maintain active customer accounts, pre-loaded with payment info, so buyers can join in 1-2 clicks, like amazon or paypal? seems obvious & has been done for years by said examples.

otherwise i have no problem with ccbill trying to increase conversions. no clue why the OP is so disappointed. what more should they do, especially in a business notorious for fraud.

Plus the fact CCBill does not pass chargeback fees to clients, they can scrub as hard as they want.

CCBILL does have 1 click upsells/upgrades - for a long time. Problem is they don't do a good job letting clients know about it and helping them implement it. With the insane money CCBILL makes they should have their in house programmers available to clients to implement the features CCBILL does have.

12clicks · 02-04-2012, 05:58 AM

If CCBill came out and told you they'd wipe your ass for you people would complain about the paper they used

Adam X · 02-04-2012, 06:08 AM

I'll take fap block for $1000 alex

but hey if a guy wants to call in, let'em.. especially if this shit actually works better than cascading.. somehow I doubt it, they haven't shown stats on that yet right? just sayin..

sojproductions · 02-04-2012, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shedevils

Yeah I totally agree, but I just wanted the opportunity to say "fap block".

And you were right to say it! 'excuse me, i want to fap but my card was declined, can you help?' - it aint gonna happen, it's a double embarrassment, ive got a hardon and no money haha!

arock10 · 02-04-2012, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

When I saw the title of this email I got excited!! Wow CCbill is finally going to start verifying transactions to make sure they aren't fraudulent.....perhaps by setting up something like google has that actually texts the person's phone with the username or pin thJereby verifying that they are indeed the person they say they are. Not allowing people to input false info does a great deal in
1. preventing fraud
2. deterring a user from stealing content with the purchased membership (which they do) since they now know we know who they are....in the real world.

Does anyone else feel like ccbill should be doing more to help or am I alone?

They make a ton of money from everyone but do little to help them protect their businesses. I may not know the answer. What I said above was just a thought not necessarily the way to go. I'm sure there are brighter minds out there who can come up with a simple solution to prevent fraud.

But instead all we get is a system for a user to contact ccbill if a card is declined? Super! That should solve the real problem!

Again it could be just me here thinking this stuff....maybe I'm wrong which is why I ask to see your views on this topic.

I disagree plus I'm sure there are people without cell phones still

ruff · 02-04-2012, 06:23 AM

I think it is a good program. Can't hurt. Having said that, I won't be using it simply because I use cascading billing otherwise I'd leave it active. Personally I think the credit card companies could implement features like Visa Verify on adult transactions if they wanted to. I also think there is technology available for other means of protection. I don't think they want to do it because they make more money keeping everything in a "high risk" category. They can fuck webmasters and clients at the same time and that is what porn is all about, getting fucked.

I was not here and I did not say that.

V_RocKs · 02-04-2012, 09:35 AM

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MrDeiz · 05-27-2012, 12:24 AM

CCBill, turn that thing off

bean-aid · 05-27-2012, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDeiz

CCBill, turn that thing off

I have a different opinion of that call verify thing now.

It is actually a harder scrub and making legit sales call in to verify. It is not processing the *questionable* to turn into a sale... it is taking the legit and pissing them off.

I take back all my statements in this thread...

CCBill... get your shit together! WTF is going on?

freecartoonporn · 05-27-2012, 06:52 AM

i dont have / use cell phone.

and i dont like the idea, that oldfucksyoungs texting me.

sojproductions · 05-27-2012, 07:15 AM

it needs disabling, scrubbing harder is not going to help any of us, a very small percentage of customers will use the services, most won't. and why does it have to be a phone call, chat window would get more use.

Lloyd_CCBill · 05-27-2012, 01:10 PM

Hi Everyone,

I posted a response to concerns about our "Web Verify" feature in a different thread: https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18967665&postcount=10

I think the underlying concern in this thread is that we modified our scrub to be harsher or more strict after releasing the feature, but that simply is not the case. We released the "Web Verify" feature in response to client and affiliate demand for a softer scrub and as a mechanism to increase new transaction approvals. We did not modify VScrub settings after releasing "Web Verify".

We sincerely apologize for all the confusion surrounding this release. Our intentions were to address our client and affiliate needs yet we somehow missed that mark by sending an inappropriate message. We are taking a lot of things into consideration after receiving such negative response surrounding "Web Verify" and we are considering allowing clients to disable the feature on a case-by-case basis. However, the "Web Verify" feature will remain enabled on all CCBill accounts until we reach a decision to allow the feature to be disabled.

I encourage anyone that has additional questions and concerns to either post them here or contact our support department directly.

.

SwirlsGirl · 05-27-2012, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner

I have a different opinion of that call verify thing now.

It is actually a harder scrub and making legit sales call in to verify. It is not processing the *questionable* to turn into a sale... it is taking the legit and pissing them off.

I take back all my statements in this thread...

CCBill... get your shit together! WTF is going on?

well god damn! My man Beaner has spoken!

Let me hear your war growl LOL

Look Chang · 05-28-2012, 04:24 AM

CCBill "Web Verify" feature is destined to native English speakers, but, fortunately, the adult business is not limited to the North American continent.

What about the vast majority of inhabitants of this planet who are not English proficient enough to be understood in a phone call with an American interlocutor???

That's my case and it's also the case of many members or potential members of our sites and that's precisely this kind of people whose credit card are frequentely denied by CCBill scrub.

We use a cascading billing option with CCBill as our first payment processor and Epoch as our second processor. It's amazing to note that a big percentage of the transactions denied at "pre-authorization" by CCBill are accepted by Epoch and that, AT THE END, the final percentage of chargebacks is inferior with Epoch than with CCBill???

I guess that there could be some improvement in the CCBill so called "scrub" but to ask people to call CCBill to verify their credit card is definitively not an option for a few billions of potential customers located in the rest of the world.

DamianJ · 05-28-2012, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Look Chang

We use a cascading billing option with CCBill as our first payment processor and Epoch as our second processor. It's amazing to note that a big percentage of the transactions denied at "pre-authorization" by CCBill are accepted by Epoch and that, AT THE END, the final percentage of chargebacks is inferior with Epoch than with CCBill???

Switch your primary to Epoch. Their throughput it better, their rebills are better and their chargebacks are lower.

pornguy · 05-28-2012, 06:02 AM

Having any sort of verify like that will cut sales in half instantly.

I for one do not own a cell phone and my wife and I both work at our home office together, so any sort of call she might get. Lots of people have similar situations.

There are other ways to do it, like finger print assigned to a credit card. The readers are cheap and available in best buy I believe.

BareBacked · 05-28-2012, 07:31 AM

Why would anyone use one processor in this day and age ?

02-03-2012, 08:21 PM	#1
Ann-Angelcom Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new york Posts: 500	CCbill Web Verify....wow! not When I saw the title of this email I got excited!! Wow CCbill is finally going to start verifying transactions to make sure they aren't fraudulent.....perhaps by setting up something like google has that actually texts the person's phone with the username or pin thereby verifying that they are indeed the person they say they are. Not allowing people to input false info does a great deal in 1. preventing fraud 2. deterring a user from stealing content with the purchased membership (which they do) since they now know we know who they are....in the real world. Does anyone else feel like ccbill should be doing more to help or am I alone? They make a ton of money from everyone but do little to help them protect their businesses. I may not know the answer. What I said above was just a thought not necessarily the way to go. I'm sure there are brighter minds out there who can come up with a simple solution to prevent fraud. But instead all we get is a system for a user to contact ccbill if a card is declined? Super! That should solve the real problem! Again it could be just me here thinking this stuff....maybe I'm wrong which is why I ask to see your views on this topic. __________________ Digitalangeldollars.com 10% on all referrals!! NOW PAYING 75% OF ALL SALES!!!

02-03-2012, 09:10 PM	#3
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02-03-2012, 11:25 PM	#11
Ann-Angelcom Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new york Posts: 500	When I said phone call I meant SMS or text. Sorry wasnt clear. But why is this not being done as priority?? Let's be realistic. No one is going to call ccbill if their card is declined. They will just move on anyway. What we need is a tool to prevent fraud and theft. It's in everyone's best interest so why isn't it being done?? __________________ Digitalangeldollars.com 10% on all referrals!! NOW PAYING 75% OF ALL SALES!!!

02-04-2012, 12:34 AM	#13
Ann-Angelcom Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new york Posts: 500	What I said was that I got excited when I saw the email ecause I assumed they finally woke up to a better fraud prevention method. I was disappointed to see this wasn't the case. __________________ Digitalangeldollars.com 10% on all referrals!! NOW PAYING 75% OF ALL SALES!!!

02-04-2012, 12:38 AM	#14
Ann-Angelcom Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new york Posts: 500	Ps the same person that would call ccbill to get approved is the same person that would message us asking if we have another payment method available. Nothing changes with this tool. They should be focusing on something bigger and better with all the money they earn from webmasters. Instead they added a customer support line? Lmao. So 2003. This is 2012. __________________ Digitalangeldollars.com 10% on all referrals!! NOW PAYING 75% OF ALL SALES!!!

02-03-2012, 08:33 PM	#2
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	If I buy a pass to CumCoveredTeens I don't want ccbill calling me...

02-03-2012, 09:28 PM	#4
Shedevils Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 502	Well it's another tool and that's good. If it makes more sales that's great. But porn is such an impulse buy and it's a rather private thing. If my card was declined for a porn purchase there is no way I would call anyone. Talking to anyone and particularly a woman at that time would be a fap block. I think the real way to make more sales is to have the whole process as painless and as streamlined as possible for the end user so he buys while still in the mood. Have to wait and see how it is implemented, as that will be what makes it work or not.

02-03-2012, 10:01 PM	#7
Captain Kawaii So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,748	I think web verify is a good idea. There is no obligation for surfer to use it. Just gives them the choice. We have had members get rejected, wait 5 minutes then get accepted. personally I am glad ccbill is working to increase conversions. Thanks, ccbill.

02-03-2012, 10:03 PM	#8
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	Fap block!!

02-04-2012, 12:39 AM	#15
Ann-Angelcom Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new york Posts: 500	Sorry just venting. __________________ Digitalangeldollars.com 10% on all referrals!! NOW PAYING 75% OF ALL SALES!!!

02-04-2012, 12:41 AM	#16
Ann-Angelcom Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new york Posts: 500	And ps these are the same people who called me a few months ago to ask why I think our charge back rates have increased. Lol. I was like isn't that your job? Why don't you tell me since you manage my logins my charges and my customers. __________________ Digitalangeldollars.com 10% on all referrals!! NOW PAYING 75% OF ALL SALES!!!

02-04-2012, 01:22 AM	#19
CHMOD Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,697	I think it is a very good move from CCBill. For years webmasters have been complaining about their Decline transactions rate They are now offering a nnew tool to reduce the decline transactions rate, I hope webmasters won't complain on that.

02-04-2012, 02:09 AM	#21
Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	why doesnt CCBill maintain active customer accounts, pre-loaded with payment info, so buyers can join in 1-2 clicks, like amazon or paypal? seems obvious & has been done for years by said examples. otherwise i have no problem with ccbill trying to increase conversions. no clue why the OP is so disappointed. what more should they do, especially in a business notorious for fraud. Plus the fact CCBill does not pass chargeback fees to clients, they can scrub as hard as they want.

02-04-2012, 02:25 AM	#23
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	If it picks up a few extra sales here and there I'm all for it. Other things I'd like to see CCbill do: 1) Set their system up to allow 1 click upgrades. I know they would never allow it to be that simple with a true 1 click, but they could do what Epoch does and have the member enter their email address for the upgrade, then boom! This could make a lot more money for everyone. 2) Bring their admin up to date. The last upgrade they did just brought them into 2002. It's so slow and awkward, I can't stand logging into it. It needs to be trimmed down and simplified. 3) Improve the quality of their chat support. Many of them tell you conflicting things and they are usually incorrect. I wouldn't be surprised if during off hours they outsource the chat to Philippines or India. It's that bad sometimes. I'd rather not have chat support at all than to have them give me wrong information all the time. There are some agents who I just disconnect from as soon as I see their name pop up because they are ALWAYS wrong. 4) Introduce a card. Program owners and affiliates would LOVE to have a CCbill card instead of wires and checks.

02-04-2012, 02:35 AM	#24
GARY LEE Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Paso Robles, CA. U.S.A. Posts: 600	One of my primary duties at xbiz and internext was to find a secondary processor to cascade to from ccbill. I love my ccbill but they do tend to be too picky and I have tons of customers who get declined. I found the company that I wanted to cascade to but I find myself now wanting to wait and see just how ccbill handles this. Looks like epoch will be on my waiting list now since that is the one I picked. Let's try this ccbill! Show me your stuff! __________________ amateur porn videos lipstick lesbians

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sojproductions Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,160	it needs disabling, scrubbing harder is not going to help any of us, a very small percentage of customers will use the services, most won't. and why does it have to be a phone call, chat window would get more use. __________________ ICQ: 404-159-022 Blue Pixels Profits - Uk Solo Tranny sites & Crossdressing! Filthy Profits - Uk MILF Solo Sites

05-27-2012, 01:10 PM	#37
Lloyd_CCBill Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 48	Hi Everyone, I posted a response to concerns about our "Web Verify" feature in a different thread: https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18967665&postcount=10 I think the underlying concern in this thread is that we modified our scrub to be harsher or more strict after releasing the feature, but that simply is not the case. We released the "Web Verify" feature in response to client and affiliate demand for a softer scrub and as a mechanism to increase new transaction approvals. We did not modify VScrub settings after releasing "Web Verify". We sincerely apologize for all the confusion surrounding this release. Our intentions were to address our client and affiliate needs yet we somehow missed that mark by sending an inappropriate message. We are taking a lot of things into consideration after receiving such negative response surrounding "Web Verify" and we are considering allowing clients to disable the feature on a case-by-case basis. However, the "Web Verify" feature will remain enabled on all CCBill accounts until we reach a decision to allow the feature to be disabled. I encourage anyone that has additional questions and concerns to either post them here or contact our support department directly. . __________________ Lloyd Briggs Director of Client Support CCBill, LLC [email protected] O: (480) 449.7751 ext. 251 C: (623) 703.8486 ICQ: 226130819

05-28-2012, 04:24 AM	#39
Look Chang Sexpat Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 17,377	CCBill "Web Verify" feature is destined to native English speakers, but, fortunately, the adult business is not limited to the North American continent. What about the vast majority of inhabitants of this planet who are not English proficient enough to be understood in a phone call with an American interlocutor??? That's my case and it's also the case of many members or potential members of our sites and that's precisely this kind of people whose credit card are frequentely denied by CCBill scrub. We use a cascading billing option with CCBill as our first payment processor and Epoch as our second processor. It's amazing to note that a big percentage of the transactions denied at "pre-authorization" by CCBill are accepted by Epoch and that, AT THE END, the final percentage of chargebacks is inferior with Epoch than with CCBill??? I guess that there could be some improvement in the CCBill so called "scrub" but to ask people to call CCBill to verify their credit card is definitively not an option for a few billions of potential customers located in the rest of the world. __________________ Hot & Juicy Asian Girls Sex Sites : SEDUCTION -> FELLATIO -> CONCLUSION

05-28-2012, 06:02 AM	#41
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	Having any sort of verify like that will cut sales in half instantly. I for one do not own a cell phone and my wife and I both work at our home office together, so any sort of call she might get. Lots of people have similar situations. There are other ways to do it, like finger print assigned to a credit card. The readers are cheap and available in best buy I believe. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

05-28-2012, 07:31 AM	#42
BareBacked Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: www.BareBacked.com Posts: 3,685	Why would anyone use one processor in this day and age ? __________________ NEW SITE PAYING $30 for a $1 TRIAL Selfies