Dirty F

Avoid salt as much as possible. And yes they taste like crap without salt
Salmon is a fatty fish (wild salmon is better) the oil in fish is very good for you.

http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-man...iet-fatty-fish

Dirty F

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Slappin Fish

all carbohydrate are digested the same but soluble fiber will reduce rates of intestinal absorption. Just like alcohol is always digested the same but slowing down absorption will reduce peak levels in the blood. soluble fiber is in the fruit for a reason, nature does things well.

Choopa Phil

Raw almonds are a great snack too. Also look into some home made protein bar recipes, they are great on the go and have no preservatives and crap the store bought ones do

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LandingPower

you should go with unsalted and raw. you'll get used to it. i never get anything salted anymore. just don't forget nuts are extremely high in calories. 1 cup of nuts is approximately 800 calories. not ideal if you are looking to lose weight or maintain. great for bulking.

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Choopa Phil

there you go! was having a brain fart on the exact mechanism behind the slowed digestion. Thanks!

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Vjo

Thanks guys. I really appreciate it. I am going to change my diet starting now. Removing cheese and much more red meat if not all to begin will really help the budget which I also really like and is a great motivator.

Oats and veggies if you buy em in bulk are really inexpensive. Potatoes as well. Eggs too. The best stuff for you is the cheapest stuff, freeing up money for blueberries, protein powers ect. I am liking this more and more.

At Walmart, Birds eye has some nice veggie mixes for 5 LBs for $5.99 or just over $1 a LB which is best Ive seen. Plus they are quality frozen vegies.

Also been eating a lot of canned beans lately. I take it canned are ok? But beans are certainly good. I usually mix with rice but I am gonna switch to brown rice. They say mixing beans and rice and I think wheat (but gonna avoid wheat) gives you a complete protein (amino acids) which is why third world countries usually mix the two.

Choopa Phil

Lentils are great and probably the Cheapest meal you can make, its like a dollar for 2-3 nights worth of eating. Nutrabio.com for protein. Its the most bioavailable and lactose free protein on the market. Its basically pharmaceutical grade...wont cause ANY gastric issues. and if you have a BJ's or Costco they sell 10 lb bags of perdue flash frozen cleaned chicken breasts for 23 bux. no need to defrost them u just tossem on the george foreman and youre good to go.

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Si

Ok, we're on the same page now fuck me who knew sugar was so interesting?

Yep we're all agreed now (I think).

Si

I'm trying to cut that crap out. In theory you could probably make turkey bacon with just some turkey meat, not sure if it would work though.

But anyway, proper bacon (I've looked it up) when processed is wet cured in a pink salt which is what contains the sodium nitrite,

If you make it yourself you just get pork belly (for streaky bacon) or loin (for back bacon) trim off as much fat as possible, do 3 days (3 steps of 24 hours each) of salt curing (using kosher salt not the pink shit, or sea salt because it is too course) in the fridge to draw out the water, then after it has hardened you smoke it for about 2 or 3 hours in a smoker and out comes your bacon without nitrites!

Vjo

I have to check lentals out. Your not the first to recommend them. Or maybe it was you in another thread.

So you are saying nutrabio.com would be a good first powder to buy. I want to start doing a powder.

In a nutshell, here is my deal and plan, I am going on the diet recommended here as I already eat most of the same stuff.

Cheese, (is a little ok or should I go cold turkey, as I said I eat maybe 1 to 1and1/2 LBs a week for years (counting pizza), bad I know, pasta ocassionally (terrible I know and only cause it is cheap) thats goes. Red meat goes, eat a lot of that too, sugar and corn syrup must go. Must I quit it 100%? If you read my other posts you know I WILL binge if it is around.

I guess fruit like bananas, dates ect is the answer or truvia as was recommended earlier.

All this coupled with starting a walking program. Maybe 5 days/week walk. Easy at first cause I dont want to get too tired. I live alone and cant sleep all the time.

But yeah, I am about 6'3 1/2 (80" reach for you mma'rs ) but I am around 300 prob about 305 and at double nickles now (55) it has to now go. I am starting to feel it. I prob dont have as much muscle mass anymore even tho I do all the housework, mow ect but at 55 it is too much weight.

So I will let you know how it goes. Thanks to the op. Lots of great info in this thread.

Si

Nuts are ok without salt if you get hazelnuts (filberts) or walnuts (whole they taste better than bits) they are pretty tasteless but throw them in a good natural/organic vanilla yoghurt and they are excellent. I can eat walnuts and filberts fine without any coating on them they are a pretty tame flavour.

Choopa Phil

Nutrabio is the best and the only powder I will ever use. Definitely give it a shot. Its carb, sugar, and filler free. Heres a 7% off coupon code - NB3731

Check out this cheese it comes highly recommended from a very credible source - http://www.lifetimecheese.com/produc...res/index.html

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Vjo

That is a great idea mixing them with yogurt

The devil is in the details and this thread gives you details

Yeah good advice on the salt. I also eat too many salted in the shell peanuts lol I am TERRIBLE I know. lol it is funny if it wasnt so sad.

But I think I can learn to like many nuts without salt. As a snack but dont over do them as someone said.

I obvously have to start counting calories but just removing all that cheese and red meat plus all refinded sugar/corn syrup.. should really help a lot. I dont eat much sugar/corn syrup but I get the feeling that just a little of that defeats the purpose and is the worst. Plus I will binge. If it isnt in the house I dont miss it. I make do.

At my weight now days I am good for about two major stores like Walmart and a Large groc store and then the weight is too much.

I am gen in good health but with that diet, no wonder I never lose. I never gain weight anymore and if I do it is easily removed, but with that diet I never lose, if I do happen to do some more exercise or something like mow.

I have maxed out at 318. About 305 now. If I go under 300 (had a chest cold last year and did) I really notice just that 5 LBs. If I go OVER 310 I begin to get in dangerous waters. The other day after pasta, 4oz dry weight over 4 days, not a ton but, I gained 3 LBs and was about 308. I went shopping, ate less and lost 3LB in one day.

So I really just want to get down 6 LBs to 299 to begin. That will be a big start. Only 6 LBs. Then I am on my way.

Vjo

OK Thanks Phil I will order that. I appreciate it.

Ya know I am pretty strong mentally. I quit smoking cold turkey and other substances cold turkey, I think I can quit cheese. It is good stuff but yeah not that important. I could always go with fat free but I really like the savings. Cutting out cheese and red meat is at least $75/month. It needs to go. Obviously my arteries could use it.

I do drink lots of Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar and only drink water and maybe one beer/day. So that maybe counter acts the otherwise terrible fatty, high salt diet I have had.

I have always avoided nitrites and MSG and cook 100% for myself. Very little eating out so that prob has saved me. Rump roast has fairly low fat but is still red of course.

So cheese, red meat (cutting way down since I am doing a protein shake) and sugar/corn syrup are my first three targeted points to eliminate.

My older brother is 6'2 and about 190. He preaches "ground turkey, ground turkey" so gonna switch to that as I like my tacos.

That will be a good start. Ok thanks. I will let you all go now. Appreciate it.

Bryan G

A dork eh? Lol you stuck in a time warp there dude? don't think I've heard that since the 80s lol. Anyhow my point still stands no one is gonna tell me fruit is bad for me. Fair enough it has sugar but it also has lots of fibre.

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Vjo

I am gonna switch to bananas and maybe apples plus dates. Heck berries when in season are great! That is my plan of attack to replace the gummy bears. Ya have to have something sweet.

I realize you guys are talking more for guys who are already in top shape whether fruit is good, but for me it is surely good.

My "friend" he really does exist and really does know it all lol says, "wanna lose weight? Eat lots of bananas."

And he is prob right in a roundabout way.

Vjo

So I had a 5 cans of "fatty fish" in the cupboard incl two albacore tuna. Ohh that is good stuff.

Why buy beef? I hear ya. Ya need the fatty tho in the fish

My snack or is this a meal, whatever

1 can albacore tuna
Salad:
1/6 head iceberg lettuce
bit of sliced onion (love raw onions )
1 TBLSP ranch dressing
and a slice of chedder 1/2 oz (I have to use it up)
skipped the croutons

Tall glass of Mini Soda tap. Nature's finest.

Lean and Mean!

seeric

So true. Except that Ferrari would get me into so much more bad things. Haha.

seeric

It's been a bit. I bought a bunch of it the last time. Last year some time. I have two giant clear canisters of it vacuum sealed. He sent me some extras too from what I remember. I eat it a couple times a week.

SNRProductions

Sorta unrelated, sorta not, but I've been making some pretty mean protein waffles in the morning by loading them up with egg whites and they don't taste that different. Just a tip for anyone wanting to try something.

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baddog

I ate it daily up until last week when i ran out. I am now making it myself. Buckwheat and quinoa are in the dehydrator as we speak. Should be ready by Saturday morning when I get to add everything else. This should be interesting, but I got hooked on it.

facialfreak

Short answer: protein

There have been many studies done that have all concluded that eggs are a very good source of protein that your body can readily absorb with very little effort (as opposed to meat or legume proteins that your body must break down before absorbing).

Eating 2 tablespoons of peanut butter - right out of the jar will have a similar effect. Many children growing up on farms use the peanut butter trick before going out at 5am to begin their chores ...

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Dirty F

No one is gonna deny that, dork.

Emil

Me too! I cant work for 1-2 hours after my lunch unless I eat low carb food. I get too tired.

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