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heek · 02-15-2012, 11:58 AM

When it all boils down to it, I don't think any one country should have control over 20%+ of the world's oil economy... I don't give a shit what any media says, at all. In my eyes, everyone's out to make a buck at someone else's expense, USA included. People need to pull their heads out of their asses and fix our local problems before trying to play God to the rest of the world. Ya dig?

Just Alex · 02-15-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

The problem is that the rest of the world has the right to inspect and approve of such technology. It's very simple - what Russia does in a nuclear power plant can have far reaching implications three thousand miles away in Europe, as well as the rest of the world. We saw this first hand with the Chernobyl disaster. The rest of the world needs to know the plants that any one country is building is safe.

Really? And Israel just did that back in the 60's when they developed theirs? Remember what happened to the whistle blower guy?
Oh wait, those rules don;t apply to jews, because they are our friends.

Rochard · 02-15-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Really? And Israel just did that back in the 60's when they developed theirs? Remember what happened to the whistle blower guy?
Oh wait, those rules don;t apply to jews, because they are our friends.

The same rules should apply to both countries.

Iran is building nuclear power plants and refusing to allow anyone to inspect them. Israel has two nuclear reactors and allows them to inspect them. Well, I'm assuming Israel allows the IAEA to inspect them, and if they refuse, Israel should be bitch smacked. (It's disappointing that the UN isn't already bitch smacking Israel for building on land that isn't legally theirs, but you know how that goes - The US supports Israel in the UN, and Russia supports their friends [Syria] in the UN.)

Nuclear weapons don't apply to this conversation. Nuclear weapons aren't subject to the same rules or regulations, or inspections.

asdasd · 02-15-2012, 01:37 PM

Spot on Rochard very accurate statements filled with reason and logic.

Just Alex · 02-15-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

The same rules should apply to both countries.
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Should, but do they? Israel can build what ever the fuck they want and as many as they want. You really think iran can get away with building 50 nuclear warheads and tell the rest of the world to go fuck themselves because they are the chosen people and have the right to blow up this planet if they feel like being threatened? Oh please.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/un-body-...pection-1.7603

DaddyHalbucks · 02-15-2012, 02:05 PM

Iran has been begging for it since 1979.

They are one of the top exporters of terror.

MediaGuy · 02-15-2012, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

The same rules should apply to both countries.

Iran is building nuclear power plants and refusing to allow anyone to inspect them. Israel has two nuclear reactors and allows them to inspect them. Well, I'm assuming Israel allows the IAEA to inspect them, and if they refuse, Israel should be bitch smacked. (It's disappointing that the UN isn't already bitch smacking Israel for building on land that isn't legally theirs, but you know how that goes - The US supports Israel in the UN, and Russia supports their friends [Syria] in the UN.)

Nuclear weapons don't apply to this conversation. Nuclear weapons aren't subject to the same rules or regulations, or inspections.

Iran isn't refusing to allow anyone to inspect them; this is sorta like Saddam refusing UN WMD inspectors access to his country - bullshit. The inspectors were kicked out of Iraq by Bush so he could claim provocation and maintain deniability.

There's an IAEA inspection in Iran this week as a matter of fact.

Israel does not undergo IAEA inspections, because it is not a NPT signatory and are presumed not to have a nuclear arsenal.

But while Israel doesn't deny Nuclear Weapons capability, it doesn't acknowledge either. They won't sign the non-proliferation treaty - they maintain a "nuclear ambiguity" policy or some such bullshit.

Iran on the other hand has signed on to the NPT, but pressure from the US years before Iran was able to enrich their fuel to 20% (which isn't one-fifth what they need for weaponization) caused them to be ruled as "non compliant".

The West or more particularly the US has been trying to pick a fight with Iran for a long time.

Dirty F · 02-15-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

They said last week they had an announcement.

No link yet, its just a headline on BBC.

What does America have to do with that exactly?
I mean, that's what you're aiming at right?

Rochard · 02-15-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Should, but do they? Israel can build what ever the fuck they want and as many as they want. You really think iran can get away with building 50 nuclear warheads and tell the rest of the world to go fuck themselves because they are the chosen people and have the right to blow up this planet if they feel like being threatened? Oh please.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/un-body-...<br /> 1.7603

This article seems to tell us that Israel has not opened up all of their nuclear sites. If we are talking about active (or even inactive for that matter) nuclear power plants then Israel needs to smacked around a bit.

And if they continue to refuse, they should have similar sanctions to what Iran is having.

I know the US plays favorites, but I believe all countries should be treated the same.

asdasd · 02-15-2012, 02:27 PM

It's pretty pathetic watching the lies required to defend Israel and America.

MediaGuy · 02-15-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

While Iran has never attacked another country, it's also threatened to destroy Israel on a regular basis

This is another odd myth that though parroted in the mainstream media here through misquotes and quoting out of context, has never actually been the case.

The closest they've come to this sort of statement is that Israel will eliminate itself, will auto-destruct and statements similar to "the zionist chapter of the history of the middle east is about to come to a close" blablabah and other arab hyperbole.

They've never actually said they want to, or will, act to destroy Israel.

Shedevils · 02-15-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Really? And Israel just did that back in the 60's when they developed theirs? Remember what happened to the whistle blower guy?
Oh wait, those rules don;t apply to jews, because they are our friends.

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The juice have hundreds of warheads including many based on German made submarines that give them an unstoppable first strike capability.

Pretty much every citizen of every Arab nation is currently targeted by a juice warhead right now. Certainly every one living in a major city.

And as well cities in Russia and the NATO capitols are all rumored to be targeted just to make sure that thing go the right way.

papill0n · 02-15-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Iran has been begging for it since 1979.

They are one of the top exporters of terror.

2nd only to the USA you brainwashed piece of shit

directfiesta · 02-15-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

There are 100's of others.....

damn you are stupid ...

Rochard · 02-15-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy

Iran isn't refusing to allow anyone to inspect them; this is sorta like Saddam refusing UN WMD inspectors access to his country - bullshit. The inspectors were kicked out of Iraq by Bush so he could claim provocation and maintain deniability.

There's an IAEA inspection in Iran this week as a matter of fact.

There might be some truth in what you just said:

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Previously, the IAEA complained that Tehran had not fully co-operated with its inspectors, though it did say that Iran had displayed "greater transparency" during an inspection visit in August 2011.

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So we know there was an inspection in 2011.

So far as I'm concerned, if you have any kind of nuclear activity, the IAEA should have a full time office on site. The nuclear power plant outside of Phoenix? Right across the street they should put an IAEA with unlimited access to everything. Mexico - and even Canada - has rights too.

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Israel does not undergo IAEA inspections, because it is not a NPT signatory and are presumed not to have a nuclear arsenal.

But while Israel doesn't deny Nuclear Weapons capability, it doesn't acknowledge either. They won't sign the non-proliferation treaty - they maintain a "nuclear ambiguity" policy or some such bullshit.

If if this the case, then Israel should have the same sanctions Iran has. However, you saying they don't allow IAEA inspections and then talking about a nuclear arsenal in the same sentence. The IAEA inspections are for nuclear power plants, not nuclear weapons.

Israel isn't required to be a part of the NPT (nuclear non-proliferation treaty). The NPT states that if a country refuses to build or have nuclear weapons, peaceful nuclear technology will be shared with them. This treaty is in place to encourage countries like Iran not to have nuclear weapons, and to properly assist them in creating nuclear power - win win for everyone. Israel hasn't signed the treaty, and gets it's nuclear power technology from where ever. Seems to me Israel doesn't take nuclear power too seriously.

Does Israel have nuclear weapons? I'd bet my next paycheck they do. (And I bet you the US helped them.) But whatever already. Nuclear weapons are pretty much a last resort. You nuke another country, you can kiss everything goodbye.

Just Alex · 02-15-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Israel needs to smacked around a bit.

How dare you to suggest this? Smack a jew and you will bring the holocaust comparison back. This just anti-Semitic !
Ok maybe just a bit. Smack their little tooshie "bad Israel, bad Israel".
But hey, its a lot easier to talk about Iran and how they are threatening our freedom, and whats more importantly the livelihood of our precious friend Israel.

MediaGuy · 02-15-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

If if this the case, then Israel should have the same sanctions Iran has. However, you saying they don't allow IAEA inspections and then talking about a nuclear arsenal in the same sentence. The IAEA inspections are for nuclear power plants, not nuclear weapons.

Actually, not so. IAEA is under the NPT umbrella and its function is to ensure proper civilian application of nuclear technology, and that there isn't any diversionary development towards military/weapons application, although since it's a voluntary process surely secret plans to do this wouldn't necessarily be detectable. But there's indicators, such as Israel's own production of fissionable material, which is way off the scale for it's 2 power plants as well as not being on the medical isotope market's radar... so what else is it for?

And though they aren't signatories they constantly gripe about Iran's non-compliance, which appear to be fabrications, and other IAEA/NPT "violations" though they themselves don't follow any of that.

Yeah, they should be sanctioned or pressured but they probably won't be. Nukes are political, not tactical, weapons, and sometimes it's not even important to actually have them as long as other nations *think* you do (look at North Korea - one year they do, one year they don't).

:D

asdasd · 02-15-2012, 03:37 PM

I tend to aim all farts in the direction of Israel.

asdasd · 02-15-2012, 05:28 PM

what he said

Rochard · 02-15-2012, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Where did you dream this crap up? Solders send their money home because most have families and even when they're deployed they have a PX. Besides, the real military spending is in private contractors who build the equipment for the soldiers abroad. Soldiers aren't building tanks, planes, ships, tankers etc., but American citizens in small cities spread across the US and cities around huge military bases.

Obviously I make this shit up. It's not like I spent four years of my life in a Marine infantry unit or anything.

Not all soldiers have families, in fact, most don't. In the first four years of military service, only ten percent of our military is married - and that makes up the vast bulk of our military. Those that are married usually send their wives home to live with family - no sense renting an apartment if half the family is out of the country. When a unit goes out on deployment - for war or whatever - military towns are hit hard. When ten thousand people suddenly leave town on deployment, it's felt hard.

When we went on deployment, everyone took the insurance off their cars, put them on blocks, and parked them in a huge parking lot. All of the soldiers that do go don't spend money locally - they don't buy gas, eat out, buy cigarettes, and what not.

As for the contractors who make equipment... Do you think that when we are not at war we don't build tanks, trucks, planes, etc? I guess you think our military - when not off at war - hides in the barracks, lower the blinds, and play titiddlywinks? You understand that every day of four years I either drove or rode in a tank, truck, amtrac, or helio? Right? It's not like we go to war and suddenly place orders for ten thousand new tanks.

Overload · 02-15-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

If we cut back military spending it would be as if the local factory closed. As all symbiotic businesses would also close, property devalues, shares holders pension plan devalue, etc. We saw this happen before when Clinton cut back the military and whole defense contractor towns just dried up. Hell, California even sold a navel port to the Chinese government for a new import center.

if the US had spend 650 BILLION bucks on green technology you'd have way more jobs than you have now ... you really think war is the way to make money?

zionist brainwashing at its finest ... US fellas really think they fight for freedom ... they DONT

asdasd · 02-15-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Obviously I make this shit up. It's not like I spent four years of my life in a Marine infantry unit or anything.

Not all soldiers have families, in fact, most don't. In the first four years of military service, only ten percent of our military is married - and that makes up the vast bulk of our military. Those that are married usually send their wives home to live with family - no sense renting an apartment if half the family is out of the country. When a unit goes out on deployment - for war or whatever - military towns are hit hard. When ten thousand people suddenly leave town on deployment, it's felt hard.

When we went on deployment, everyone took the insurance off their cars, put them on blocks, and parked them in a huge parking lot. All of the soldiers that do go don't spend money locally - they don't buy gas, eat out, buy cigarettes, and what not.

As for the contractors who make equipment... Do you think that when we are not at war we don't build tanks, trucks, planes, etc? I guess you think our military - when not off at war - hides in the barracks, lower the blinds, and play titiddlywinks? You understand that every day of four years I either drove or rode in a tank, truck, amtrac, or helio? Right? It's not like we go to war and suddenly place orders for ten thousand new tanks.

Nobody cares what the wall street people have to say about corruption, substitute that with murder.

asdasd · 02-15-2012, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Overload

if the US had spend 650 BILLION bucks on green technology you'd have way more jobs than you have now ... you really think war is the way to make money?

zionist brainwashing at its finest ... US fellas really think they fight for freedom ... they DONT

They fight to maintain status quo enslavement. Mind and body. Lock and stock.

BFT3K · 02-15-2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Green energy? Seriously? You need to wake up and realize this is a distant pipe dream. The Chinese would rather invested real earnings of $1.6 trillion in a very week US economy then develop innovative, possible life changing green economy? Think again.

Yeah, the Chinese hate green technologies...

http://www.industryweek.com/articles...ent_21415.aspx

HighlyIntoxicated · 02-15-2012, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

As always splitting hairs. Clinton proved you can reduce our overall Military spending as it paid off our debt and increase the public economy. Not only is this fact, we now can't reduce Military spending and build more military shit to keep the economy going. My point.

Anyway, what country needs 12 aircraft careers when the rest of the world combined has 4? I think we need to sell 6 of them and put that money towards, I don't know, better public school? Fuck it, how about we just build imaginary military widgets and just keep handing out welfare tax dollars to the military industrial complex?

they can't invest in schools because once they start educating the general public, they won't have any uneducated soldiers to fight for them. The american school system is terrible for a reason.

Overload · 02-15-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Green energy? Seriously? You need to wake up and realize this is a distant pipe dream. The Chinese would rather invested real earnings of $1.6 trillion in a very week US economy then develop innovative, possible life changing green energy/economy? Think again.

i dont need to rethink ... but the US folks need to realise they are used as TOOLS

ppl in the 3rd reich had more freedom than you have now

Overload · 02-15-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Yeah, the Chinese hate green technologies...

http://www.industryweek.com/articles...ent_21415.aspx

whew, thx for that link

very interesting reading

Phoenix · 02-15-2012, 07:05 PM

nuclear power and nuclear missiles..the whole thing is so stupid

you know when we should turn to nuclear power? on the moon, or perhaps mars.
Down here on earth it is just the easy way out.

having nukes is crazy as well...you dont even need them in this day and age...there are all kinds of cool bombs that dont have to ruin the earth for 50,000 years

_Richard_ · 02-15-2012, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

What does America have to do with that exactly?
I mean, that's what you're aiming at right?

god fucking dammit, nice fucking sig

moeloubani · 02-15-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Yep, we are such tools and controlled by a reich, the reich just allowed me to buy my first full auto machine gun less then a week ago. Meaning, we still have options to do something if we like? What are your options? Harsh language?

So wait what are your options? Buying guns? How is that any different than harsh language, the only difference is what you do costs money. You seem to think the guns represent you being able to fight back against the government but you forget that although the guns are legal, fighting the government with them is not. So your legal gun is just about as good as any illegal gun when it comes down to it.

Barry-xlovecam · 02-15-2012, 10:19 PM

A nuclear armed Ayatollah is not acceptable.

Iran refused French and Russian offers to refine Iranian uranium into nuclear fuel for power generation and medical uses instead insisting on their nationalistic "nuclear right." Iran's intentions have become clear ... Iran has used chemical weapons in the recent past ? perhaps provoked by Saddam Husein but the Iranian propensity for the use of banned weapons does not lend credence to their responsibility with other prohibited weapons.

There is a world wide agreement on further nuclear proliferation that has been repeatedly violated by quite a few nations. The world is not a safer place with nuclear armaments and if there was a realistic way of fully disposing of all nuclear weapons the world would be a much safer place ? reasonable persons would agree.

Iran's threats are really internal ones and the current theocratic government there was almost overthrown from within last year. The Iranian government leaders are saber rattling attempting to appease internal dissent but the regime's practices will be their own downfall. It is a shame if Iranians wish to kill each other but it is an internal affair. However, when they impose threat on other nations they will pay the price.

Rochard · 02-15-2012, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

As always splitting hairs. Clinton proved you can reduce our overall Military spending as it paid off our debt and increase the public economy. Not only is this fact, we now can't reduce Military spending and build more military shit to keep the economy going. My point.

Do you not read the news at all? This is exactly what we are doing. We've pulled out of Iraq, and we'll be down sizing our military over the next two - ten years.

moeloubani · 02-15-2012, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

A nuclear armed Ayatollah is not acceptable.

Iran refused French and Russian offers to refine Iranian uranium into nuclear fuel for power generation and medical uses instead insisting on their nationalistic "nuclear right." Iran's intentions have become clear ... Iran has used chemical weapons in the recent past ? perhaps provoked by Saddam Husein but the Iranian propensity for the use of banned weapons does not lend credence to their responsibility with other prohibited weapons.

There is a world wide agreement on further nuclear proliferation that has been repeatedly violated by quite a few nations. The world is not a safer place with nuclear armaments and if there was a realistic way of fully disposing of all nuclear weapons the world would be a much safer place ? reasonable persons would agree.

Iran's threats are really internal ones and the current theocratic government there was almost overthrown from within last year. The Iranian government leaders are saber rattling attempting to appease internal dissent but the regime's practices will be their own downfall. It is a shame if Iranians wish to kill each other but it is an internal affair. However, when they impose threat on other nations they will pay the price.

If we're talking history of using WMDs to kill people then the first one banned from having them would be the US.

meka2003 · 02-16-2012, 12:54 AM

1. I'd rather nuke iran/attack Iran first before they make bomb
2. Iran is worthless compared to US in terms of technology/medicine to better the world.
3 We have more hot chicks in the US
4. Iran is against porn. If you are caught with porn, it will cost you big.
5. Iran is for internet censorship.

just a punk · 02-16-2012, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Umm based upon what? The USA and Israel are 10000x more "terroristic"than Iran

Exactly! How many civilian (and even military) people around the world have died because of Iranian attacks since 1979? Now compare the numbers with the USA/Israel scoreboard.

MaDalton · 02-16-2012, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Yep, we are such tools and controlled by a reich, the reich just allowed me to buy my first full auto machine gun less then a week ago. Meaning, we still have options to do something if we like? What are your options? Harsh language?

lol - you have no idea how absurd that sounds

Lucy - CSC · 02-16-2012, 06:06 AM

The King David Massacre July 22, 1946 Jewish terrorists blew up a hotel, and killed 91 British soldiers, and blamed the atrocity on Arabs. When later caught, they said the British had a list of their Arab spies and were going to turn them over to the Palestinians. The goal of the False Flag was to pit the British against the Palestinians.

Lavon affair In 1954, Israeli agents working in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including a United States diplomatic facility, and left evidence behind implicating Arabs as the culprits. The ruse would have worked, had not one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to capture and identify one of the bombers, which in turn led to the round up of an Israeli spy ring

USS Liberty ....June 6th, 1967 Six fighters, three torpedo boats and two assault helicopters attacked the USS Liberty. There were 24 dead and 177 maimed. F-4 phantoms were enroute when President Johnson stopped the rescue. Israel's plan was to blame Egypt, and have the US retaliate against Egypt.

At a minimum Israel had advanced warnings of 9-11 and moved their people out.

Iran is begging for it? What about Israel?

JaydaDiamonde · 02-16-2012, 06:13 AM

Get your ass whacked like the rest!

USA #1

asdasd · 02-16-2012, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

A nuclear armed Ayatollah is not acceptable.

Iran refused French and Russian offers to refine Iranian uranium into nuclear fuel for power generation and medical uses instead insisting on their nationalistic "nuclear right." Iran's intentions have become clear ... Iran has used chemical weapons in the recent past — perhaps provoked by Saddam Husein but the Iranian propensity for the use of banned weapons does not lend credence to their responsibility with other prohibited weapons.

There is a world wide agreement on further nuclear proliferation that has been repeatedly violated by quite a few nations. The world is not a safer place with nuclear armaments and if there was a realistic way of fully disposing of all nuclear weapons the world would be a much safer place — reasonable persons would agree.

Iran's threats are really internal ones and the current theocratic government there was almost overthrown from within last year. The Iranian government leaders are saber rattling attempting to appease internal dissent but the regime's practices will be their own downfall. It is a shame if Iranians wish to kill each other but it is an internal affair. However, when they impose threat on other nations they will pay the price.

I mock your intelligence.

DWB · 02-16-2012, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

This image needs to be spread everywhere, as it speaks the truth.

The USA would do the same if the Chinese put bases in Mexico, Canada, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Haiti, and a few other places in the Caribbean and Central America. There was almost nuclear war over the Russians just putting missiles in Cuba, so it would be ON if foreign bases started building up outside US borders.

This is the hypocrisy that makes America hated throughout the world. No one hates Americans for their freedom. That is the most ass backwards bullshit comment in the history of bullshit comments. They hate America because of their hypocrisy and attempt to be the world police.

There is no "war on terror." There are people who are fighting back at the USA for invading their land and killing 100s of 1000s of their people. There are people who fight the US military on their homeland just as Americans would do if they were invaded. At best there is a war for resources and they use terrorism as an excuse to control those resources. It's all 100% grade-a fucking bullshit. The unfortunate thing is most Americans believe their lies and support them.

Do acts of random terror happen? Of course they do. There will always be some whack job (or group of them) who wants to harm people. Always has been, always will be. But how many people die from terrorist acts every year vs any other cause of death? Again, it's all American propaganda to justify their cause. Makes me sick.

DWB · 02-16-2012, 06:46 AM

And fuck Israel (as a country). You guys are on your own. If you want to start a war with whoever, go for it. That's your problem and your choice to do so. Destroy the entire middle east. Turn the whole region into a parking lot. I don't care. Many in that region are barbarians anyway.

MaDalton · 02-16-2012, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JaydaDiamonde

Get your ass whacked like the rest!

USA #1

how about you change your sig according to the rules of this board and otherwise keep shoving stuff up your ass and shut up?

just a punk · 02-16-2012, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

how about you change your sig according to the rules of this board and otherwise keep shoving stuff up your ass and shut up?

The guy has a pretty short sig indeed. I believe he can improve it a bit by adding some longcat picture

helterskelter808 · 02-16-2012, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC

The King David Massacre July 22, 1946 Jewish terrorists blew up a hotel, and killed 91 British soldiers

No they didn't. Claiming that is akin to claiming Osama killed 3000 American soldiers on 9/11, just because some military people were killed at the Pentagon. The Zionist terrorists, pretending to be Arabs, killed British, Arab and Jewish civilians, along with others.

That's not the only time Zionist terrorists murdered Jews in that period; they also deliberately murdered hundreds of Jews fleeing Nazi persecution on the ship SS Patria. The death toll would have been drastically higher if British and Arab boats had not rescued hundreds more Jews that were on the ship.

Zionism has never cared about saving Jews though, which is why former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzak Shamir's Stern Gang openly supported Adolf Hitler.

Israel is so proud of the King David Hotel terrorist attack that, a few years ago, they put up a plaque to celebrate the murders.

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Originally Posted by DWB

No one hates Americans for their freedom. That is the most ass backwards bullshit comment in the history of bullshit comments.

How does a person hate someone else for their 'freedoms' anyway? What does that even mean? It's complete nonsense.

MaDalton · 02-16-2012, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Absurdity is a German commenting how absurd anything is with the word Reich in it.

not a word i would have chosen either

but defining freedom by the right to buy a machine gun...

MaDalton · 02-16-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

You miss understood, yet again and NOT defining freedom, but defining oppression or lack of. Meaning, if my government was so oppressive why would they allow me to buy a machine gun?

because your government knows that this is a religiously defended thing in your country

i rather cannot buy a machine gun but in general be not afraid of police raids, airport security, the TSA in general, homeland security, walking alone through a city at night and some other things

helterskelter808 · 02-16-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

You miss understood, yet again and NOT defining freedom, but defining oppression or lack of. Meaning, if my government was so oppressive why would they allow me to buy a machine gun?

Because they know you, and everybody like you (gunloons), are absolutely no threat to them.

MaDalton · 02-16-2012, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Of course you won't because you don't have the option and why your opinion couldn't possibly be valid.

lol - that makes discussion easy for you, right? just declare opinions invalid that you don't like

actually i could buy all kinds of weapons here in CZ, the law is very liberal, i could even carry if i wanted and get the necessary permissions - even as a foreigner

i just chose the freedom of not having a weapon because i live in a country where i dont need them for my security.

but i could shoot for sports and fun though, theres a shooting range not far from here that offers AK47 and stuff like that.

i just dont see the point, it doesnt give me anyhting and also doesnt make me feel more manly or something like that

Chezter · 02-16-2012, 10:19 AM

The war is close and it is gonna be big. Iranians tried to kill israeli ministry of defence and they are apparently not going to stop developing nuclear weapons. I think problem is the change in in Egypt. How will they react if there will be big war so close of them against islamic country? This is the same for Turkey which now has pretty bad relationship with Israel or Pakistan and therefor other countries will be involved like India and soon half of the world is in trouble. Hope it will not happen, because wars in Iraq or Afghanistan would be like childs play compared to this.

asdasd · 02-16-2012, 10:27 AM

"Only police should have guns"
Shudder.

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DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	Iran has been begging for it since 1979. They are one of the top exporters of terror. __________________ Boner Money

02-15-2012, 07:05 PM	#78
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,457	nuclear power and nuclear missiles..the whole thing is so stupid you know when we should turn to nuclear power? on the moon, or perhaps mars. Down here on earth it is just the easy way out. having nukes is crazy as well...you dont even need them in this day and age...there are all kinds of cool bombs that dont have to ruin the earth for 50,000 years __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

02-15-2012, 10:19 PM	#81
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	A nuclear armed Ayatollah is not acceptable. Iran refused French and Russian offers to refine Iranian uranium into nuclear fuel for power generation and medical uses instead insisting on their nationalistic "nuclear right." Iran's intentions have become clear ... Iran has used chemical weapons in the recent past ? perhaps provoked by Saddam Husein but the Iranian propensity for the use of banned weapons does not lend credence to their responsibility with other prohibited weapons. There is a world wide agreement on further nuclear proliferation that has been repeatedly violated by quite a few nations. The world is not a safer place with nuclear armaments and if there was a realistic way of fully disposing of all nuclear weapons the world would be a much safer place ? reasonable persons would agree. Iran's threats are really internal ones and the current theocratic government there was almost overthrown from within last year. The Iranian government leaders are saber rattling attempting to appease internal dissent but the regime's practices will be their own downfall. It is a shame if Iranians wish to kill each other but it is an internal affair. However, when they impose threat on other nations they will pay the price.

02-16-2012, 06:06 AM	#87
Lucy - CSC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 490	The King David Massacre July 22, 1946 Jewish terrorists blew up a hotel, and killed 91 British soldiers, and blamed the atrocity on Arabs. When later caught, they said the British had a list of their Arab spies and were going to turn them over to the Palestinians. The goal of the False Flag was to pit the British against the Palestinians. Lavon affair In 1954, Israeli agents working in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including a United States diplomatic facility, and left evidence behind implicating Arabs as the culprits. The ruse would have worked, had not one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to capture and identify one of the bombers, which in turn led to the round up of an Israeli spy ring USS Liberty ....June 6th, 1967 Six fighters, three torpedo boats and two assault helicopters attacked the USS Liberty. There were 24 dead and 177 maimed. F-4 phantoms were enroute when President Johnson stopped the rescue. Israel's plan was to blame Egypt, and have the US retaliate against Egypt. At a minimum Israel had advanced warnings of 9-11 and moved their people out. Iran is begging for it? What about Israel? __________________ Dear USA, Your 9/11 is our 24/7, Sincerely Palestine xx

02-15-2012, 01:37 PM	#54
asdasd So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,225	Spot on Rochard very accurate statements filled with reason and logic.

02-15-2012, 02:27 PM	#60
asdasd So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,225	It's pretty pathetic watching the lies required to defend Israel and America.

02-15-2012, 03:37 PM	#68
asdasd So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,225	I tend to aim all farts in the direction of Israel.

02-15-2012, 05:28 PM	#69
asdasd So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,225	what he said

02-16-2012, 12:54 AM	#84
meka2003 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 345	1. I'd rather nuke iran/attack Iran first before they make bomb 2. Iran is worthless compared to US in terms of technology/medicine to better the world. 3 We have more hot chicks in the US 4. Iran is against porn. If you are caught with porn, it will cost you big. 5. Iran is for internet censorship.

02-16-2012, 06:13 AM	#88
JaydaDiamonde Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Florida / California / Cleveland Posts: 56	Mess with the best.... Get your ass whacked like the rest! USA #1 __________________ Perhaps you'll like my new signature better: Fuck Off!

02-16-2012, 06:46 AM	#91
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	And fuck Israel (as a country). You guys are on your own. If you want to start a war with whoever, go for it. That's your problem and your choice to do so. Destroy the entire middle east. Turn the whole region into a parking lot. I don't care. Many in that region are barbarians anyway.

02-16-2012, 10:19 AM	#99
Chezter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Brno, Czech rep. Posts: 565	The war is close and it is gonna be big. Iranians tried to kill israeli ministry of defence and they are apparently not going to stop developing nuclear weapons. I think problem is the change in in Egypt. How will they react if there will be big war so close of them against islamic country? This is the same for Turkey which now has pretty bad relationship with Israel or Pakistan and therefor other countries will be involved like India and soon half of the world is in trouble. Hope it will not happen, because wars in Iraq or Afghanistan would be like childs play compared to this. Last edited by Chezter; 02-16-2012 at 10:25 AM..

02-16-2012, 10:27 AM	#100
asdasd So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,225	"Only police should have guns" Shudder.