pumpercloggs

http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-energy-...n-venture-625/

Ron Paul has it rough being ignored by the media. I hope you all can share links like this ^ with everyone you know.

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=gXIsNLnMhS8

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=uGs_Qn5yEgs

D Ghost

This is, and has been, standard procedure in US politics and administrations for quite some time. Whether Republican or Democrat, they all do it, two sides of the same coin.

When I see people claim allegiance to either party, I find it quite amusing.

porno jew

better clean energy than the military industrial complex war machine. i forgot, both parties are exactly the same.

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$2.3 TRILLION MISSING ON 9/10



https://youtube.com/watch?v=_rRqeJcuK-A

But Obama is the evil one?

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bronco67

As long as people will be charge of shit, then there will be corruption. This is why I welcome my future robot overlords. They don't care about ripping off my tax dollars, as long as I put in a good, solid day in the mines.

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D Ghost

Business is business. Both sides dole out mega funding to their buddies. No matter if it's different business. Thus TWO different sides of the SAME coin.


And I don't exactly see Obama administration rushing out to cut military spending either.

porno jew

get out of the ron paul and prison planet forums and read more widely. your posts make you sound ignorant.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...mcP_story.html

TheDoc

The right wing "talk radio" has been blasting this for months now. I just laughed as I recalled the mass amount outer circle cronyism that took place under Reagan. The man was always putting out fires.

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D Ghost

“Yes, our military will be leaner, but the world must know the United States is going to maintain our military superiority with armed forces that are agile, flexible and ready for the full range of contingencies and threats,” Obama said.

"Maintaining superiority" isn't exactly the sort of rhetoric I'd expect from someone looking to put a damper in the "military industrial complex"

How many bases will be closing? How much less will be spent? Even if he cut $400 Billion from it, we would still be spending far more on military than any other country. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_expenditures


Got a long way to go on that one. And talk is cheap, let's see it happen.

Vendzilla

So that makes it right?

Been reading the bugdet proposal for 2013 for green energy? LOL

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=G8m3NMD7gJo

Vendzilla

I do believe we should keep the seas safe, but we don't need to rebuild nations with armed forces!

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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that

BFT3K

How much does Obama propose we invest in green technologies?

Anywhere near the $40 BILLION the Oil Companies save in tax breaks every year?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...ax-breaks.html

You know what the word PROGRESSIVE means?

Hint: The root of the word is "progress" not "status quo, controlled by greedy assholes".

TheDoc

It depends on the type of cronyism... outer circle cronyism (hiring or contracts to friends, family, etc) when it relates to an "important job" is VERY bad, that's what Reagan did.

Every President has an inner circle, projects, ideas, states, shifting of budgets, etc, etc etc... go to these people. As long as the President isn't playing favoritism to one (or all) then it's fine. Bush Jr. was the President that abused this.

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D Ghost

Agreed. We should help our allies in need, and defend our nation. But not try and police the world at our American taxpayer's expense

I am pro-military, it's a necessary institution. I've have many relatives who are veterans and many friends. The military has done a great deal of good for their lives. But the over bloated spending has to stop.

porno jew

i guess pulling out iraq was nothing at all. you been high for the last three years? serious question.

it's like you are getting your news from an alternate universe.

D Ghost

That should have been done 5 years ago, or never in the first place. Just because one administration does something, doesn't mean they are going to drastically change the face of the military complex and spending issue. They're just the one who gets credit for it. You cannot be this naive to think it was Obama's idea to do this.

BIGTYMER

BFT3K

Do you know who sponsors who in Washington?

Maybe our politicians should wear logos, like NASCAR...

porno jew

this doesn't even make sense really.

anyways, whose idea was it then?

Vendzilla

you do know about Beacon Power, Ener1 and Solyndra right?

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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that

TheDoc

Yep... that's called an inner circle, well kinda of a separated inner circle, but close enough.

Washington was the first.... and it never stopped.

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Vendzilla

Those carriers can run on one reactor and use the second one to power a city, provide fresh water from the bay, airport for supplies and a full hospital. I thought is was pretty cool when I heard about it.

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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that

2012

I used to do things like that. Nobody gives a fuck . About anything ... get high.

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Vendzilla

Yeah, I just love that Barry is going to throw more money at it

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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that

TheDoc

He's not throwing more at it, he already approved and set aside the money.

Other Countries are leaving us in the dust with green technology, which is 100% working for them. If we don't start producing our own, we're going to have to buy from them, and be right back in the same shit hole that we're in now.

Historically the Gov loans / backs major projects like this.... if you agree with them or not makes no difference, at this point if it was Obama doing the interstate highway system, you would be against it.

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+1

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