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Old 02-22-2012, 10:47 PM   #51
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just because you want something to be true does not make it so. wish fulfillment fantasies are for kids.
big money gets what big money wants...big money wants to protect its IP...im not wishing, im just stating the obvious...if you think SOPA/ACTA wont pass then you do not live in reality...

my analogy with the VHS tape is precise...it will still exist but will not be nearly as valuable and popular as before...
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big money gets what big money wants...big money wants to protect its IP...im not wishing, im just stating the obvious...if you think SOPA/ACTA wont pass then you do not live in reality...

my analogy with the VHS tape is precise...it will still exist but will not be nearly as valuable and popular as before...
does mainstream entertainment and the government give a single fuck about porn?

and the biggest money in porn are pirates themselves.

you will be waiting a long time.

adapt or die.
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does mainstream entertainment and the government give a single fuck about porn?

and the biggest money in porn are pirates themselves.

you will be waiting a long time.

adapt or die.
sorry but the law does not get to be "cherry picked"...IP is IP...like if you take a gun and kill a really bad person you STILL go to jail...the law is the law and WHEN sopa and acta get passed there will be no cherry picking...

mainstream entertainment and the gov do not have to give a shit...completely irrelevant...

as for pirates being the biggest money in porn you either have some actual proof to back this up or its a random BS statement not worth commenting on...
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how many adult sites has the government shut down for copyright infringement so far?

and the law is not the law. the law is applied selectively often for political reasons.

don't be such a rube.



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sorry but the law does not get to be "cherry picked"...IP is IP...like if you take a gun and kill a really bad person you STILL go to jail...the law is the law and WHEN sopa and acta get passed there will be no cherry picking...

mainstream entertainment and the gov do not have to give a shit...completely irrelevant...

as for pirates being the biggest money in porn you either have some actual proof to back this up or its a random BS statement not worth commenting on...

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how many adult sites has the government shut down for copyright infringement so far?
no law has been passed so far that would allow for easy shut down...but SOPA and ACTA are just around the corner....


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and the law is not the law. the law is applied selectively often for political reasons.

don't be such a rube.
this is one of your random, no proof, no logic statements like "the biggest money in porn are the pirates themselves"....you will not elaborate why you said this, it does not even have to make sense LOL...

politics have NOTHING to do with it...IP is IP...get over it...once stealing of IP is regulated by LAW then it won't matter if its porn or not...the judge is there not to give his opinion but to enforce the LAW...he MUST enforce the law end of story...

also porn brings in tax $$$$ piracy does not...never doubt in the intent of the government to tax the shit out of you...
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who owns most of the traffic in adult now retard? use your brain.

the laws are in place to shut infringing sites right now. not one porn site has. why?

politics has everything to do with ip and how it is applied. why was megaupload shut down the day after obama came out against sopa?


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no law has been passed so far that would allow for easy shut down...but SOPA and ACTA are just around the corner....




this is one of your random, no proof, no logic statements like "the biggest money in porn are the pirates themselves"....you will not elaborate why you said this, it does not even have to make sense LOL...

politics have NOTHING to do with it...IP is IP...get over it...once stealing of IP is regulated by LAW then it won't matter if its porn or not...the judge is there not to give his opinion but to enforce the LAW...he MUST enforce the law end of story...

also porn brings in tax $$$$ piracy does not...never doubt in the intent of the government to tax the shit out of you...
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who owns most of the traffic in adult now retard? use your brain.


the laws are in place to shut infringing sites right now. not one porn site has. why?

politics has everything to do with ip and how it is applied. why was megaupload shut down the day after obama came out against sopa?
adequate laws are not in place NOW...claiming that pirates make more than manwin or the likes is ludicrous...many QUALITY paysites make a killing...the shit ones don't...

politics has nothing to do with it...if a law is passed like ACTA or SOPA that enables anybody to sue for stolen IP the law will not say "except for porn" the law will include ALL IP...the judge will not be asked for his opinion he will be asked to enforce the law....its actually how the law works..
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I think it is time for you to shut up and get out of this thread.. you clearly are not in porn


if you think there is no bias AGAINST porn within the enforcement of laws you are a fool
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If a French backpacker can get from Australia to Bali with no money and no passport I'm sure anyone with money and contacts can get out of NZ really easy....

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are you in porn? do you actually spend time with naked women filming them? no? then you are not in porn, you are either a traffic broker or a webmaster or somebody who is related to the porn business...a porn wannabe...hey I'm new as can be but at least I'm actually IN this business LOL ...

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if you think there is no bias AGAINST porn within the enforcement of laws you are a fool
the law is the law...there is no such thing as selective interpretation...

so if somebody steals your car and you are in porn you are screwed? the law wont help?
if somebody beats you up, and you work in porn, you are screwed the law wont help?
if somebody kills you, and you work in porn, they will let him go?

how come your ever so clever argument does not float in the real world?

sure there is bias...bias does not mean shit in court...if your intellectual IP is porn and you can prove it was stolen the court must rule your way because theft of IP is a crime...end of story....
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adequate laws are not in place NOW...
How come all these file lockers and NFL sites are being shut down then?
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How come all these file lockers and NFL sites are being shut down then?
An "easy off" button for all pirate sites is what I call an adequate law. Whether this "easy off" button comes in the form of SOPA or ACTA or what ever else I do not know. All I know is that the "profitable piracy business model" has reached its end of days. Porn profits may never recover, but it will be refreshing to see the pirates go broke too
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If a French backpacker can get from Australia to Bali with no money and no passport I'm sure anyone with money and contacts can get out of NZ really easy....

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/q...-1226214863312
Looked at a map lately?

Anyone with a brain and basic info can get from Australia to Bali. It's like puddle jumping. Indonesia neighbors Australia. But New Zealand to Germany... good luck.
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the law is the law...there is no such thing as selective interpretation...
you are a fucking moron. waste of time talking with.
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you are a fucking moron. waste of time talking with.
personal attacks is pretty much what every no-argument can't-back-it-up troll resorts to in the end...you are so smart with your one line out-of-ass facts like:

and the biggest money in porn are pirates themselves.

LOL

Don't let a little reality stand in the way of your "professional opinion":
In the United States, the pornographic film industry is centered in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles, with an estimated 200 production companies in the region employing as many as 1,500 performers, making up to 11,000 films and estimated to earn as much as $13 billion a year

now you either show me where pirates make even close to one billion per year or you don't know what the fuck you are talking about poser boy...

OR

you could demonstrate how the law is applied selectively, shiiiiiiit you are so "in the know" you must have 100-s of examples ready...one will suffice...come on "pro boy" show me what a "rube" I am....


pfffffft poser....
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who owns pretty much all of adult online? where do they get their traffic from? tubes with 2 minute clips you fucking moron?

fuck off. so you shot a hooker you fucked once with a disposable camera. does not make you an expert in fuck all.

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personal attacks is pretty much what every no-argument can't-back-it-up troll resorts to in the end...you are so smart with your one line out-of-ass facts like:

and the biggest money in porn are pirates themselves.

LOL

Don't let a little reality stand in the way of your "professional opinion":
In the United States, the pornographic film industry is centered in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles, with an estimated 200 production companies in the region employing as many as 1,500 performers, making up to 11,000 films and estimated to earn as much as $13 billion a year

now you either show me where pirates make even close to one billion per year or you don't know what the fuck you are talking about poser boy...

OR

you could demonstrate how the law is applied selectively, shiiiiiiit you are so "in the know" you must have 100-s of examples ready...one will suffice...come on "pro boy" show me what a "rube" I am....


pfffffft poser....
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An "easy off" button for all pirate sites is what I call an adequate law. Whether this "easy off" button comes in the form of SOPA or ACTA or what ever else I do not know. All I know is that the "profitable piracy business model" has reached its end of days. Porn profits may never recover, but it will be refreshing to see the pirates go broke too
Oh, you're someone that thinks if piracy is stopped (it won't ever be) that people will start to buy porn.

Funny.
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Oh, you're someone that thinks if piracy is stopped (it won't ever be) that people will start to buy porn.

Funny.
No I never said it will bring back the golden days of porn. In fact you did not bother to read when I wrote "porn profits may never recover" ...Piracy will never be stopped completely but the golden days of pirate profits are over. This is all I am saying. There is no "adapt or die" for pirate profits, there is only "die or die".

@poser jew...

what are you talking about "poser boy"? are you saying pirates own pretty much of all adult online???? another out-of-ass fact? LOL...you said: "and the biggest money in porn are pirates themselves." and I showed you that only porn in cali makes 13bil/year....

now you can either show me a pirate that makes even close to say, one billion? or you do not know what the fuck you are talking about ...don't just babble incoherrent out-of-ass crap but try to actually answer what I ask: who are these pirate billionaires you are talking about?

as for my "hooker and disposable camera" I will prove you very wrong soon LOL...go do some traffic or something poser boy...
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No I never said it will bring back the golden days of porn. In fact you did not bother to read when I wrote "porn profits may never recover" ...Piracy will never be stopped completely but the golden days of pirate profits are over. This is all I am saying. There is no "adapt or die" for pirate profits, there is only "die or die".

@poser jew...

what are you talking about "poser boy"? are you saying pirates own pretty much of all adult online???? another out-of-ass fact? LOL...you said: "and the biggest money in porn are pirates themselves." and I showed you that only porn in cali makes 13bil/year....

now you can either show me a pirate that makes even close to say, one billion? or you do not know what the fuck you are talking about ...don't just babble incoherrent out-of-ass crap but try to actually answer what I ask: who are these pirate billionaires you are talking about?

as for my "hooker and disposable camera" I will prove you very wrong soon LOL...go do some traffic or something poser boy...
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not worth my time. posts some pics of your third world hookers and do something useful with your life.

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No I never said it will bring back the golden days of porn. In fact you did not bother to read when I wrote "porn profits may never recover" ...Piracy will never be stopped completely but the golden days of pirate profits are over. This is all I am saying. There is no "adapt or die" for pirate profits, there is only "die or die".

@poser jew...

what are you talking about "poser boy"? are you saying pirates own pretty much of all adult online???? another out-of-ass fact? LOL...you said: "and the biggest money in porn are pirates themselves." and I showed you that only porn in cali makes 13bil/year....

now you can either show me a pirate that makes even close to say, one billion? or you do not know what the fuck you are talking about ...don't just babble incoherrent out-of-ass crap but try to actually answer what I ask: who are these pirate billionaires you are talking about?

as for my "hooker and disposable camera" I will prove you very wrong soon LOL...go do some traffic or something poser boy...
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are you in porn? do you actually spend time with naked women filming them? no? then you are not in porn, you are either a traffic broker or a webmaster or somebody who is related to the porn business...a porn wannabe...hey I'm new as can be but at least I'm actually IN this business LOL ...
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So only people that produce porn are in porn. Those who sell it aren't in porn they're in something else? It's all so clear now. LOL
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riiiight..."not worth your time" LOL I believe you...

I will start posting my work soon, I am new and not afraid to admit that what I made so far is not up to my standards but what I did shoot is better than most stuff I see here. No disrespect to the few real producers on this forum, I am nowhere near them nor do I claim I will be, but a guy can have his dreams....


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Well if you are IN PORN you are IN PORN. Look if you don't spend your day with naked women, but instead spend your day in the office you are not exactly IN PORN are you? You are either in sales related to the porn business or traffic or marketing or whatever. All these professions are a legit way to earn your money and are something you should be proud of, but to say you are IN PORN when you actually do not get to live the life style is a bit of a stretch....

My comment was pointed at the guy who said "I was obviously not in porn" I found it amusing, as a producer, that some traffic SEO wannabe thinks he is, somehow, IN PORN and I am not LOL...
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and the biggest money in porn are pirates themselves.
He's referring to Manwin's tube sites but, as DWB pointed out elsewhere, Manwin is perfectly positioned to take advantage of the new climate should the USA and EU ever really come down hard on piracy... as seems quite likely.

Meanwhile, as you've no doubt noticed, there are a number of pirates and pirate fanboys who frequent this forum.

And not surprisingly, they're getting a little cranky right about now
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riiiight..."not worth your time" LOL I believe you...

I will start posting my work soon, I am new and not afraid to admit that what I made so far is not up to my standards but what I did shoot is better than most stuff I see here. No disrespect to the few real producers on this forum, I am nowhere near them nor do I claim I will be, but a guy can have his dreams....


@warchild

Well if you are IN PORN you are IN PORN. Look if you don't spend your day with naked women, but instead spend your day in the office you are not exactly IN PORN are you? You are either in sales related to the porn business or traffic or marketing or whatever. All these professions are a legit way to earn your money and are something you should be proud of, but to say you are IN PORN when you actually do not get to live the life style is a bit of a stretch....

My comment was pointed at the guy who said "I was obviously not in porn" I found it amusing, as a producer, that some traffic SEO wannabe thinks he is, somehow, IN PORN and I am not LOL...



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Do not "get" to live the lifestyle? It's not exactly a treat.
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If you have better things to do than film naked girls and fuck them for a living then kudos to you...I love it....sure its not all fucking and stuff but I really like the creative aspect and it beats the shit out of my office job
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If you have better things to do than film naked girls and fuck them for a living then kudos to you...I love it....sure its not all fucking and stuff but I really like the creative aspect and it beats the shit out of my office job
Creativity is great but it's not even half of what is needed today for a successful/profitable porn site. Don't forget that.

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