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Are you arrogant or humble?
Obviously there are many points on the spectrum... most of us fall somewhere between.
This is definitely a must read for many... Are You Arrogant or Humble? Guarding Yourself from Yourself by Connor Young YNOT ? The online adult entertainment industry has travelled a long path since its rise to prominence in the late 20th Century. We are not today the industry we were just one decade ago. I will leave to others to argue whether the changes have been a positive evolution for a popular industry, or a steady descent into the deepest caverns of business hell. There are valid arguments for many different views here. MORE: http://www.ynot.com/content/117649-a...-guarding.html
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My personality has been described as "humble arrogance"
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I'm ... virtuous.
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DAMN... who's the girl in your sig?
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Humbly erotic.
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I've a sublime personality.
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Aletta Ocean it looks like in the sig.
I call myself arrogant, but thats just to cover for being kind of a standoffish type. I'm actually humble.
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Thanks for responding, guys. Hopefully you are reading the article too
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Really good article. Watch that fake narrative.
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I'm an asshole with a good heart. That's the best I can describe lol.
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that was a good read
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i own GFY
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I am Amazing Content!
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am i doing it right?
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I am a sociopath. Where does that put me?
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You rub peoples faces in your humble. Or something.
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Conner did a great job on that article, I actually enjoyed reading it
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OH Lord, it's hard to be humble, when you're perfect in every way
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Much more humble than the days of old.
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![]() I'm the most humble arrogant prick that you are likely to ever meet... ![]() ADG |
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She is ugly, bad luck.
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neither.
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I'm pretty humble with a slight cocky attitude giving motivation to work, love & life. It can bring out either charisma & charm but can easily turn into arrogance depending on the spirit of the people around me.
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BACON BACON BACON
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fuck yo couch!!
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working on my tan
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Good article. The majority of truly successfully people I know are more humble than you would expect them to be. It's not that rare where media creates a different image. Regarding our industry, I don't feel there's a big difference at this point than in the rest of the world. Most of big egos in our industry vanished or settled.
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The few extremely wealthy people I know are cool and down to earth, but similar personalities were the mutual attraction. There is no shortage of arrogant pricks though. What I hate more than arrogance is misplaced arrogance. Like the South Florida boys who drive $100k sports cars but live in a $800 a month apartment. They spend their whole paycheck on their image. |
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Confident but not arrogant.
Humble but still faithful. |
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congrats to the winners
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i'm too old to change ...
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I'm very humble with a sarcastic sense of humor that's often misunderstood.
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neither - just drunk...
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I still can't get the article to load. Crashes chrome.
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It really comes down to the perception of those around you. Regardless of your intention.
There are people who actually know me on a personal level who will tell you I am humble, and frankly do not care about money. It's little more than a means to an end. There are haters on GFY from my fan club who think I base my entire life (or define it) on the money i make, and am maliciously arrogant to a fault. Yet I am the same person. In the end, the perception of those around you are how THEY define you. It really does not matter what your 'intentions' are. Their perceived reality is what they go off of, and how they define their relationship with you. If they do not like you, everything you do has some ulterior sinister motive. ![]() |
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To the click challenged... here is the full article in all its glory...
By Connor Young YNOT – The online adult entertainment industry has travelled a long path since its rise to prominence in the late 20th Century. We are not today the industry we were just one decade ago. I will leave to others to argue whether the changes have been a positive evolution for a popular industry, or a steady descent into the deepest caverns of business hell. There are valid arguments for many different views here. One thing remains constant, though: This industry, for whatever reason, has a real problem with hubris. The ancient Greeks gave great thought to the crime of hubris. The term can refer to a number of behaviors, including one taking an interest in the humiliation of others. Need examples? See your local Internet chat board. Often when we speak of hubris today, we mean a kind of dangerous arrogance that can lead even otherwise good people to tragic consequences. This brand of hubris can blind you to the problems that you create for yourself through the statements you make, the narratives you present and the actions you pursue. It may just be part of the industry culture, but it’s worth considering: Many personalities on the message boards and industry networking channels feel compelled to present themselves as “bigger” than they really are — and by “bigger,” I mean more powerful, more financially well off and more politically connected. In fact, few individuals working in the adult space can really make these claims with any veracity. So that means most of the boasters are simply liars, believing they will profit from a false narrative, either through financial gains or through social gains. Sometimes it works ... for a while. But usually, even the most clever individuals who pursue this approach with tenacity suffer from excessive arrogance and fatal hubris, and eventually they wind up digging their own graves. We all fight with hubris from time to time. Few of us are fully immune. Allow hubris to take too much control over your choices, however, and you’ll eventually back yourself into a corner. This can happen simply because you’re accustomed to outsmarting or outwitting people for too long a time. The more you spin false narratives that others believe, the more you start to think of yourself as too clever to catch. The more you succeed in lies, the more you start to think of everyone else as too dimwitted or too naïve ever to see the truth. This is when you’re at extreme risk of exposing yourself as a liar and manipulator. You can destroy your name and reputation in a matter of hours when you are blinded by your own arrogance born of past successes. Hubris isn’t just a problem in the adult industry, of course, and sometimes it helps to consider problems from a distance. I remember shaking my head in disgust as Frank and Jamie McCourt took over the Los Angeles Dodgers baseball team a few years back. To me, their love of media spin and manipulation showed a fundamental lack of respect for the fans. But their marketing narratives seemed to be fully justified in the first few years of their ownership, as their reputation in Los Angeles seemed untarnished by their actions, and the rich and powerful from Southern California seemed eager to call them friends. But arrogance eventually caught up with the McCourts, and fans turned against them when they started to feel duped. The normal PR spin wasn’t working to bring back lost revenue, and ticket sales plunged. Eventually, Major League Baseball worked to secure their promised exit from the sport. It can be argued today that Frank McCourt is the most hated individual in Los Angeles Dodgers history. Had I warned Frank McCourt about hubris before his eventual downfall, I’m guessing he would have pointed to all the success he had achieved early on with his chosen approach to business. And at that time, it would have been really hard to argue against the results. Today the cost is clear as he prepares for his departure from the owner’s seat. So what’s my point? Just to offer some friendly advice to webmasters, affiliates, sales reps, talent, and anyone else who takes to the public forums of the Internet on a regular basis. Work to keep yourself in check. Shy away from letting false narratives take over your public image. Remember that for the vast majority of you, you’re not a huge player or financial powerhouse, even if you’ve done reasonably well in adult. Humility may not be fashionable, but it’s an important quality for long-term success. Connor Young is the president of Houston, Texas-based YNOT Group LLC.
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Today's word is Hubris...repeat after me, Hubris:
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Humble?
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There was a commercial a while ago where one thing said to the other that they have an ego and it replied "i don't have an ego, I just love how awesome I am."
A few weeks ago my cousin called me an elitist and I said "i'm not an elitest, I'm just better than most people."
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RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
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Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
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both depending on my level of intoxication and the IQ of my drinking partners...
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Great article. We could all learn something from that.
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Depends on the context and situation. On some things I know about I'm arrogant if talking to the clueless, on others humble. Especially if in the company of my betters.
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It's a good article for affiliates to take to heart.
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I'm wearing a shirt that says "To save time, let's just assume I'm never wrong."
On the other hand, last night I kept my mouth shut for the entire board meeting because I was in the presence of people more knowledgeable and experienced than I. When I know, I know. When others know better than I, I recognize that and STFU. Where does that put me?
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