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Old 03-01-2012, 07:51 PM   #1
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Kim Dotcoms first interview since being released (vid)

http://ondemand.tv3.co.nz/Campbell-L...3/Default.aspx


Great watch.
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Old 03-01-2012, 08:14 PM   #2
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Nothing too shocking. Obviously he wasn't going to go on there and admit that they ignored DMCA. I have a feeling this is going to be one of those legal cases that could take a while to get through the system, however, when it does it could be precedent setting and it could be used as case law for future cases.
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How to watch this?
it says it's only available to New Zealand viewers? are all of you from NZ?
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Old 03-01-2012, 08:45 PM   #7
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Nothing too shocking. Obviously he wasn't going to go on there and admit that they ignored DMCA. I have a feeling this is going to be one of those legal cases that could take a while to get through the system, however, when it does it could be precedent setting and it could be used as case law for future cases.
the safe harbor says

If it does discover such material before being contacted by the copyright owners, it is instructed to remove, or disable access to, the material itself. [512(c)(1)(A)(iii)], [512(d)(1)(C)]

The entire argument is that disabling access is not enough you have to remove the file too.


but i do find it interesting that he is making the access shifting argument
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This is a very good watch. I hope he wins his case. I support him and his efforts and all those like him..
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So, I have this running in the background. He thinks the problem is that movie studios are not releasing movies worldwide at the same time? Sheesh.

Talk about entitlement.
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he has a point, i download lots of tv shows because if i didnt there would be no other ways to watch them. no dvds, no online services, nothing. if i could pay for it i would.
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So, I have this running in the background. He thinks the problem is that movie studios are not releasing movies worldwide at the same time? Sheesh.

Talk about entitlement.
In that statement alone, he admitted guilt to what he's being charged with.

This guy needs to shut his trap before he digs himself an even deeper hole.

I've heard MU had a policy that would restrict the access studios had to being able to delete over a certain amount of videos per day.

This guy's defense has so many holes it's hilarious. Trying to bill himself as being a file transfer service when he was selling memberships for "unlimited access". That has nothing to do with being able to download your boss's PowerPoint presentation...

He's going to have a hell of a time proving he wasn't a file sharing site. They've already got mountains of emails between him and his employees that talk about paying uploaders for trending in-demand software and movies.
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So, I have this running in the background. He thinks the problem is that movie studios are not releasing movies worldwide at the same time? Sheesh.

Talk about entitlement.


I heard that too, although it seems as if Mr Dotcom has not been staying up on things, since Hollywood has been simultaneously releasing movies globally for years now, and contrary to what Kim stated, that did not make piracy stop.

His uncontested statements in the interview are feeble, and certainly the government took all of his lame arguments into account before busting his illegal operation.



Tell it to the judge...



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In that statement alone, he admitted guilt to what he's being charged with.

This guy needs to shut his trap before he digs himself an even deeper hole.
actually he is setting up to make the access shifting argument in the states

many countries including Canada have recognized the concept that your doing no economic damage if the price of the item is zero (because it not for sale) at the time of infringement.



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This guy's defense has so many holes it's hilarious. Trying to bill himself as being a file transfer service when he was selling memberships for "unlimited access". That has nothing to do with being able to download your boss's PowerPoint presentation...

He's going to have a hell of a time proving he wasn't a file sharing site. They've already got mountains of emails between him and his employees that talk about paying uploaders for trending in-demand software and movies.

he mentioned the fair use of backup too

and you do have a right to backup content you paid for.
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So, I have this running in the background. He thinks the problem is that movie studios are not releasing movies worldwide at the same time? Sheesh.

Talk about entitlement.
There is a whole movement among pirates where they feel that the movie industry should have to release their movies in all markets and all formats at the same time. So the day a movie is out you can see it in the theater or buy/rent the DVD/Blu-Ray, or watch it on PPV or watch it on premium cable, free cable or even free TV. Their argument is that since it will then be available in all formats in all markets at once the movie will make more money and there will be no piracy because the customers will have it available to them in all formats and price points so there will be no need for piracy.

It's pretty laughable.
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I wonder why they singled him out ... and all these other guys are out there ? hmmm ...

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i guess he needed to make a campaign statement of his own....

let me know when a real interview comes around
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There is a whole movement among pirates where they feel that the movie industry should have to release their movies in all markets and all formats at the same time. So the day a movie is out you can see it in the theater or buy/rent the DVD/Blu-Ray, or watch it on PPV or watch it on premium cable, free cable or even free TV. Their argument is that since it will then be available in all formats in all markets at once the movie will make more money and there will be no piracy because the customers will have it available to them in all formats and price points so there will be no need for piracy.

It's pretty laughable.

Wow. It is amazing that kids these days think they have the right to tell business how they have to run. They are taking that customer is always right thing a little far.

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I wonder why they singled him out ... and all these other guys are out there ? hmmm ...
Because he was the biggest?

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i guess he needed to make a campaign statement of his own....
You noticed that too, huh? Talk about feeding questions, and he still could not look directly at the camera or interviewer. Wonder if he had notes on a table beside him.
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There is a whole movement among pirates where they feel that the movie industry should have to release their movies in all markets and all formats at the same time. So the day a movie is out you can see it in the theater or buy/rent the DVD/Blu-Ray, or watch it on PPV or watch it on premium cable, free cable or even free TV. Their argument is that since it will then be available in all formats in all markets at once the movie will make more money and there will be no piracy because the customers will have it available to them in all formats and price points so there will be no need for piracy.

It's pretty laughable.
actually the issue isn't that there will be more money

There might be (just like the vcr)

the other possibility is that it will advance technology as theaters try and create a true competitive advantage (real 3d, 6 spectrum color etc).
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It is so painfully obvious that his lawyers told him to do this interview and exactly what to say.

BTW, I hope he's still not living in that house. It was only leased and they seized all of his assets. Unless he pre-paid the lease (somewhat likely), he shouldn't have the funds to live there.
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It is so painfully obvious that his lawyers told him to do this interview and exactly what to say.

BTW, I hope he's still not living in that house. It was only leased and they seized all of his assets. Unless he pre-paid the lease (somewhat likely), he shouldn't have the funds to live there.
I wonder if he has cash stashed somewhere that wasn't seized.

I also wonder if one of his buddies will end up rolling over on him and testifying against him.

You know that is why they charged these guys with all of the things they did. Their hope is that they can sit one of the other guys down and offer him a deal that is just a fine and probation in exchange for giving up all the dirt on Kim and the operation.
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he has a point, i download lots of tv shows because if i didnt there would be no other ways to watch them. no dvds, no online services, nothing. if i could pay for it i would.
So if you can't get a bus when you want it, you can steal a car. Because you would pay for a lift home, but one isn't available.

Great way to justify crime.
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The root of the problem is as Kim says, some of the world hasn't moved with the speed of the Internet. Outdated DMCA, outdated copyright laws, outdated laws to protect the producers from scum who think if they have any reason they feel fits. They can steal.

DMCA needs to a be a proper legal process and include hosting, billing, advertising, links off and to the site also uploaders and downloaders who have to be revealed. The moment they are risking getting dragged into court, they will drop connection with piracy. The fear of being caught reduces crime.

Providing or obtaining services like billing, advertising, selling traffic also have to be made a crime.

I stopped watching after the break, this is just stupid interview that he answers questions with lies and half truths.

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So if you can't get a bus when you want it, you can steal a car. Because you would pay for a lift home, but one isn't available.

Great way to justify crime.
Not sure how this concerns you, since your content is so bad that people don't even bother to steal it.

Anyway, that interviewer has the worst posture I've ever seen. Fucking Auzealanders and their hump backs.
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he has a point, i download lots of tv shows because if i didnt there would be no other ways to watch them. no dvds, no online services, nothing. if i could pay for it i would.
Uh wow. How about you don't watch them then? Ever considered that option?
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he has a point, i download lots of tv shows because if i didnt there would be no other ways to watch them. no dvds, no online services, nothing. if i could pay for it i would.
So in Ontario you can't afford a DVD recorder that allows you to record the programs. Then you will have to go without and not steal.

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In that statement alone, he admitted guilt to what he's being charged with.

This guy needs to shut his trap before he digs himself an even deeper hole.
I'm wondering if this guy's ego hasn't got the better of him. His replies are stupid and if he uses them in the dock, he's going to get torn to shreds.

Products not released at the right time. = So why all the released and available products on your servers?

We can't monitor our servers by US law = And ignored the laws that didn't suit us.

800 files per second so to big to monitor. = And he was making millions instead of paying people to monitor.

Piracy was only a small part of our business. = On servers we didn't monitor, how did he know this?

If you produce a product people want they will come to you. = Or come to him to get it for free.

And he continued to put himself deeper in the hole. I would bet money his lawyers told him not to do this interview, he's just so egotistical and believes sharing is good, if he makes money, he ignored the advice.

The problem is so many agree with him. Until they lose their jobs because they are victims.
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I thought this interview was pay to view, has it been pirated? That would be hilarious.

The notion that millions of files uploaded were too much to monitor doesn't hold, sure, file per file it's not possible, but look at your referrer logs, see that every month a site like ninjavideo or seriesyonkis sends you millions of hits, you're telling me you're never going to feel curious and check just what the hell kind of site that is?

This is all granting the la la fantasy that he didn't know anything and is a pure little innocent lamb, of course.
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Stopped watching at 3:00. He is delusional.

Too bad the feds have his emails and skype records for the past several years that supposedly contradict what he is saying.
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So in Ontario you can't afford a DVD recorder that allows you to record the programs. Then you will have to go without and not steal.

Perhaps the TV shows he likes aren't broadcast in his area, tardball.

Try getting Panorama, Coronation Street, Dispatches etc. in Tokyo, for a start.
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Nothing too shocking. Obviously he wasn't going to go on there and admit that they ignored DMCA. I have a feeling this is going to be one of those legal cases that could take a while to get through the system, however, when it does it could be precedent setting and it could be used as case law for future cases.
they already botched the case, half the world thinks he is already GUILTY and was sentenced, cant have fair trial anywhere in the world.

he will walk.
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Try getting Panorama, Coronation Street, Dispatches etc. in Tokyo, for a start.
thats the same here
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Perhaps the TV shows he likes aren't broadcast in his area, tardball.

Try getting Panorama, Coronation Street, Dispatches etc. in Tokyo, for a start.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/

http://www.itv.com/coronationstreet/


these shows are actually provided for free if you are living in their target region

so if you would watch these shows using a VPN service and thus circumvent the region restriction is this considered to be "piracy" or "illegal" as well?



I use a VPN service all the time to watch things on bbc iplayer , hulu or any other region restricted video service. It is amazing how many tv-shows are available for free one day after airing if you live in the "good" region. All the newest simpsons, family guy, tonight show. Everything
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http://www.itv.com/coronationstreet/


these shows are actually provided for free if you are living in their target region

so if you would watch these shows using a VPN service and thus circumvent the region restriction is this considered to be "piracy" or "illegal" as well?



I use a VPN service all the time to watch things on bbc iplayer , hulu or any other region restricted video service. It is amazing how many tv-shows are available for free one day after airing if you live in the "good" region. All the newest simpsons, family guy, tonight show. Everything
what vpn i used hide my ass but it was too slow
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what vpn i used hide my ass but it was too slow

did you actually use their PAID service? or just the free stuff??

cause you need to pay for a good VPN

I use http://www.astrill.com . They are pretty good , have servers all over the world. Usually videos will instant play no buffer time.

Astrill has a 7 day free-trial so you can check out their service. After that you need to pay. Not very expensive I think it is $60 for a year. They also have 6month and 3month plans. Worth the money if you like watching region restricted videos.
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did you actually use their PAID service? or just the free stuff??

cause you need to pay for a good VPN

I use http://www.astrill.com . They are pretty good , have servers all over the world. Usually videos will instant play no buffer time.

Astrill has a 7 day free-trial so you can check out their service. After that you need to pay. Not very expensive I think it is $60 for a year. They also have 6month and 3month plans. Worth the money if you like watching region restricted videos.
year i used the pay version of hide my ass still did not work ill give these guys a go
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This is amusing - Kims techno crime career starts when he is a spotty teen phreaker hacking pbx's and dialling international numbers on his victims phone bills. He has also been convicted of online credit card fraud.
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I have met him...
and he's an asshole...
hope he gets a maximum...
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Perhaps the TV shows he likes aren't broadcast in his area, tardball.

Try getting Panorama, Coronation Street, Dispatches etc. in Tokyo, for a start.
My God you're stupid.

So if it's not available I can steal it.

I also miss a lot of those programs. Still doesn't make it right to steal them.

Stand in the dock and use that defense. Retard.

Or maybe just a retard pirate trying to justify his stealing. Got a site I can steal your work from?
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Kim is delusional LOL he thinks if he makes a post arrest movie he will, somehow, make what he did OK. He obviously does not understand how the legal system works and how they first get TONS of evidence against you then they actually raid your house LOL. It does not matter one little bit what he says now LOL

As for his super delusional "access shifting" arguments this is exactly what is needed, a super idiot who will stretch the current outdated laws to the point that they get re-written to effectively protect intellectual property or at least they set a legal precedent with this idiot.

I bet Kim is so delusional that he is now probably planning a "come back" LOL he and other "file sharer" fools would like time to stop and they think the world will never change LOL they think this privacy and freedom of speech shit can be stretched to no end and with no legal consequences... riiiighhht LOL
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My God you're stupid.

So if it's not available I can steal it.

I also miss a lot of those programs. Still doesn't make it right to steal them.

Stand in the dock and use that defense. Retard.

Or maybe just a retard pirate trying to justify his stealing. Got a site I can steal your work from?
As far as Coronation Street goes (which I can't stand, by the way)... how the FUCK can you steal something that's not available, clown? Explain your shit.

The fact is that programs such as Panorama are available online and 100% ad-free, limited only by geographical region. So the only restriction is the location of the viewer. Ultimately, what difference does me buying a $2000 plane ticket make to Channel 4? I'm still British, I still have money in the bank, and I still like their shit. Even a coffin dodger such as yourself understands that downloading Hollywood blockbusters is not exactly legal... but when we're talking about a program that has been made available 100% free, ad-free, from the licensee being restricted to a certain geographical area, you know it's ONLY about bandwidth cost. No? Splain yourself, you ancient T-Rex riding bastard.

Channel 4 can afford the bandwidth to dish out their programs for free to some knob gobbling bender in a Soho penthouse, but throw in a few million English speaking jungle apes surfing the web on a 419'ed laptop from a mud hut in Lagos Nigeria and all bets are off. Sites like Megaupload would be doing companies like Channel 4 a favor, if only they weren't charging for access or running ads while Undercover Mosque streams direct to my shitty old laptop in Tokyo.

So the moral of the story is that YOU need not worry, since your content is so shitty that thieves won't take it for $0. Totally and conveniently ignoring the fact that the lighting is so fucking bad that simply staring directly into the sun is a far-by greater sexual stimulant... some 32 year old 3rd world skank with a Cheshire Cat grin (who you're trying to pass off as 18) sticking her tongue out whilst hovering 2 inches away from the vagina of another 28 year old 3rd world skank is not. Fucking. Attractive. At all.

Your content is fucking shit.

To quote Raquel from Only Fools & Horses... "how the hell do you hope to sell it when the thieves wouldn't take it for free?"

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My God you're stupid.

So if it's not available I can steal it.

I also miss a lot of those programs. Still doesn't make it right to steal them.

Stand in the dock and use that defense. Retard.

Or maybe just a retard pirate trying to justify his stealing. Got a site I can steal your work from?
no moron if it isn't available then it market value is zero

Therefore there is no possible way that you can reduce it market value

therefore it meets the condition of fair use

Therefore as the law explicitly states it is not copyright infringement.

BTW

This is the point about not misrepresenting copyright infringement as theft

In direct violation of supreme court ruling BTW.

You ignore a perfectly legal fair use.
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no moron if it isn't available then it market value is zero

Therefore there is no possible way that you can reduce it market value

therefore it meets the condition of fair use

Therefore as the law explicitly states it is not copyright infringement.

BTW

This is the point about not misrepresenting copyright infringement as theft

In direct violation of supreme court ruling BTW.

You ignore a perfectly legal fair use.
there you go again with fair use. That's all you fucking blabber about -- fair use this and fair use that. You obviously don't know what the fuck it is.
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As far as Coronation Street goes (which I can't stand, by the way)... how the FUCK can you steal something that's not available, clown? Explain your shit.

The fact is that programs such as Panorama are available online and 100% ad-free, limited only by geographical region. So the only restriction is the location of the viewer.
They are limited by geographical region because they only have license to broadcast in a certain area and in a certain way. Real world corporations, who employ billions of people have a silly little thing called "the law" that they must abide by. Emo hippy pirates on the other hand are too cool to make $ and not parasite from society so they do not deal with real world problems, thank god that SOPA and ACTA are just around the corner and the pirate party is about to take a big dick up its ass
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