paxum fraud story

[American Psycho]

whats the real deal with all this paxum fraud im hearing about?

why did braincash drop them as an option?
epass #2?

[RyuLion]

Here we go...

[Rothstein]

Do you know who owns it?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by RyuLion

Here we go...

that was fast

[lucas131]

this sounds like some american psycho

[2MuchMark]

[RuthB]

Originally Posted by American Psycho

whats the real deal with all this paxum fraud im hearing about?

why did braincash drop them as an option?
epass #2?

There is no 'story'. The situation you're seeing in other threads is actually in reference to a situation that occurred over two months ago. It is a simple matter of misunderstanding in that thread, and is completely unrelated to Braincash in any way.

As far as I can tell, Braincash has implemented some new security measures for anyone who wants to be paid via Paxum. That is all. Paxum is still available to Braincash affiliates.

I'd like to take this opportunity to remind the sponsors who use our services that we do pay very close attention for fraud, and if you ever encounter any fraudulent webmasters in your system who are using our service, PLEASE NOTIFY US!!!.

We DO take action with evidence, and in many cases we also manage to catch things in time to refund those payments to sponsors.

[facialfreak]

Sig spot reserved now ....

[lucas131]

[porno jew]

thanks for the heads up.

[American Psycho]

Originally Posted by RuthB

There is no 'story'. The situation you're seeing in other threads is actually in reference to a situation that occurred over two months ago. It is a simple matter of misunderstanding in that thread, and is completely unrelated to Braincash in any way.

As far as I can tell, Braincash has implemented some new security measures for anyone who wants to be paid via Paxum. That is all. Paxum is still available to Braincash affiliates.

I'd like to take this opportunity to remind the sponsors who use our services that we do pay very close attention for fraud, and if you ever encounter any fraudulent webmasters in your system who are using our service, PLEASE NOTIFY US!!!.

We DO take action with evidence, and in many cases we also manage to catch things in time to refund those payments to sponsors.

Im not trying to start some drama... just want the info.

what types of fraud are you seeing?
please edjumacate me.

[VenusBlogger]

PAXUM rocks...

Creating threads and fake BUZZ from the competition to try to STEAL a slice of the market is an old and obsolete strategy that is not going to work.

PASE ROJO metete el FRAUDE en el culo.

[Fat Panda]

anyone who uses pseudo banks is a fucking moron

[Best-In-BC]

Sig Spot #2 :D

[anexsia]

this is terrible news, I hope you get your money back

[JFK]

Originally Posted by SAC

anyone who uses pseudo banks is a fucking moron

Yeah OK , read very Carefully , so it sinks in....... THEY ARE NOT A FUCKING BANK If you use them, for what they are designed for, they are an excellent service

[2intense]

Originally Posted by American Psycho

whats the real deal with all this paxum fraud im hearing about?

why did braincash drop them as an option?
epass #2?

why u suck dickkyyy?

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by JFK

Yeah OK , read very Carefully , so it sinks in....... THEY ARE NOT A FUCKING BANK If you use them, for what they are designed for, they are an excellent service

what he said.

[asdasd]

I do not trust

[martinsc]

I just farted.....

[shimmy]

I cancelled my paxum account since they sell your information to direct marketers and they wouldn't let me use a po box. I don't need more junk mail at home.

From their privacy policy "We may enter into arrangements with non-affiliated parties, such as financial service providers, lenders, insurance providers and agencies, card issuers, retailers and direct marketers, in order to provide you with special offers that we believe may be of value to you. "

[CaptainHowdy]

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by shimmy

I cancelled my paxum account since they sell your information to direct marketers and they wouldn't let me use a po box. I don't need more junk mail at home.

Those are some serious allegations.

[travs]

right on...

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

Those are some serious allegations.

Not really. It's right there in thier tos.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Not really. It's right there in thier tos.

What's in their TOS and claiming that they sell your info are 2 totally different things.

[Matyko]

Originally Posted by JFK

Yeah OK , read very Carefully , so it sinks in....... THEY ARE NOT A FUCKING BANK If you use them, for what they are designed for, they are an excellent service

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

What's in their TOS and claiming that they sell your info are 2 totally different things.

Are you fucking retarded? Read it again:

We may enter into arrangements with non-affiliated parties, such as financial service providers, lenders, insurance providers and agencies, card issuers, retailers and direct marketers, in order to provide you with special offers that we believe may be of value to you.

What "arrangements" do you think they are "entering" in to? Fucking ham sandwiches? Get a clue.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by Harmon

Are you fucking retarded? Read it again:


What "arrangements" do you think they are "entering" in to? Fucking ham sandwiches? Get a clue.

Are you using Paxum? How many offers have you received so far from companies Paxum supposedly sold your info to?

Every online financial service provider has language like that in its TOS. Of course they're 'sharing' information with other companies (mastercard, their bank, fraud protection, the bank issuing the card,...)

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

Are you using Paxum? How many offers have you received so far from companies Paxum supposedly sold your info to?

Every online financial service provider has language like that in its TOS. Of course they're 'sharing' information with other companies (mastercard, their bank, fraud protection, the bank issuing the card,...)

[AdultEUhost]

haters gonna hate

[KingNigel]

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

Are you using Paxum? How many offers have you received so far from companies Paxum supposedly sold your info to?

Every online financial service provider has language like that in its TOS. Of course they're 'sharing' information with other companies (mastercard, their bank, fraud protection, the bank issuing the card,...)

Again, READ. I'll break it down:

in order to provide you with special offers that we believe may be of value to you.

For those of you that are slow, this means that they have the authorized ability to SELL your information. Whether or not they do is another story. That would be a question for Paxum representatives. The fact of the matter remains, is that it could (and obviously is) be someone's valid concern

It has nothing to do with sharing your information with other banks or other companies because you do business with your card with them. Of course that information is shared, that is a given and naturally implied.

[porno jew]

i better get no porn related shit in my mailbox.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by Harmon

Whether or not they do is another story.

So, you are saying that based on the info in their TOS we can't know if they have sold private info. A couple of posts higher I said essentially the same thing and you... well you know how you responded.

I'll be the first to attack a shady company. I've never been afraid to stand up against shaving sponsors or dig up dirt on for example the ones involved with epassporte. But before I go onto the offense, I make sure I have my facts straight.

I've been using Paxum since 2010 now and so far I've not seen anything that makes me doubt my decision to keep using them.

I use several different ewallet providers. All of them have their pros and their cons. They're simply tools to use and all tools have their price.

I value my privacy so I for example don't use facebook. I would personally gain nothing from having my personal info on there, but at the same time would have to give up a lot of my privacy. So I decide not to use facebook. An ewallet provider like Paxum is a tool that I do use because I gain a lot and it costs me very little. I can receive sponsor payments at a price that is a lot cheaper than if I got paid by check. All it costs me is $50 every now and then to wire the money to my bank account. The potential (slight) risk that Paxum might one day send some kind of offer to my biz address does not imo raise the costs associated with using them to a point that the costs outweigh the benefits.

[BAKO]

Not sure about this but there % is way to high. 49 bucks on a 1k transfer is just insane

[Tommydiv]

Fake drama..

[BAKO]

ok just found out about the cc transfer. From now on I will only do wire and the fee's are really really low. Paxum rocks.

[V_RocKs]

Fraud

Where it relates to Brain Cash:

Idiot signs up to brain cash and chooses paxum as the payout. Then puts in many fraudulent signups... Then gets paid via paxum. Fraudsters don't like to deal with checks... So if you want to use Paxum on Brain Cash they want more information on you so they can see you aren't some money laundering idiot...

So people that commit fraud more often choose the e-payout options over checks... BC just want to have their own check for their own safety on who uses Paxum as an option.

How does this protect them? In reality it does very little since before Epassporte they did deal in checks... But when BC is asking for extra "bullshit" (fraudster's words, not mine) it is easier to just move to a sponsor that doesn't have these kinds of requirements.

[seeandsee]

What would i do on Saturday night instead of reading drama lama threads...

PAXUM ROCKS, i get money, i go to ATM, job done, all works perfect, end of story.

[martinsc]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

What would i do on Saturday night instead of reading drama lama threads...

PAXUM ROCKS, i get money, i go to ATM, job done, all works perfect, end of story.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by pornopete

not going to bother reading this thread. only the first post and assume it must be true.

[garce]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

end of story.

I shortened it to show it'll work out eventually. End of story.

After ten years at GFY I'm tired of watching you guys contimually run headfirst into brick walls. Paxum may be a great and convenient service - I don't use it - but really?

You think in the long run this is all going to work out to your benefit? Really?

[RuthB]

Originally Posted by shimmy

I cancelled my paxum account since they sell your information to direct marketers and they wouldn't let me use a po box. I don't need more junk mail at home.

From their privacy policy "We may enter into arrangements with non-affiliated parties, such as financial service providers, lenders, insurance providers and agencies, card issuers, retailers and direct marketers, in order to provide you with special offers that we believe may be of value to you. "

That part of the TOS is a result of lawyer requirements. We had to add it in order to make sure that we cannot come under fire during the normal course of our operations. For instance, when we print the cards, the name and address will go to the printing company, which we have an agreement with. With our TOS like this, we don't have to ask for each individual clients consent in order to send their card to the printer, or for each of their check withdrawals. The other parts that we do not use are part of the standard formula that we were advised to use.

We have never provided any name or address to any other company for marketing or sales purposes. We are very keen on maintaining a high level of privacy, and we share info on a need-to-know basis.

Many people here use our service, and if we would sell the info, it would have been brought to everyone's attention long ago. Nobody can claim that we sold any info, simply because we didn't.

As for the PO boxes, it is a bank rule and is unrelated to any of the above. Sending the card to the actual address is one of the banking KYC rules.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Not really. It's right there in thier tos.

Damnit, i hate it when i make grammar mistakes like that.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

Are you using Paxum? How many offers have you received so far from companies Paxum supposedly sold your info to?

Every online financial service provider has language like that in its TOS. Of course they're 'sharing' information with other companies (mastercard, their bank, fraud protection, the bank issuing the card,...)

Still it's right there in their tos so if you like it or not, he was right.

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by RuthB

As for the PO boxes, it is a bank rule and is unrelated to any of the above. Sending the card to the actual address is one of the banking KYC rules.

I never wanted a card, or asked for a card. I just wanted the money deposited directly to my bank account, so this does not apply to me. Also, since I don't require you to send my card to a printing company you don't need me to agree to terms where you say you can sell my info to "direct marketers".

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by RuthB

That part of the TOS is a result of lawyer requirements. We had to add it in order to make sure that we cannot come under fire during the normal course of our operations. For instance, when we print the cards, the name and address will go to the printing company, which we have an agreement with. With our TOS like this, we don't have to ask for each individual clients consent in order to send their card to the printer

seriously?

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by RuthB

That part of the TOS is a result of lawyer requirements. We had to add it in order to make sure that we cannot come under fire during the normal course of our operations. For instance, when we print the cards, the name and address will go to the printing company, which we have an agreement with. With our TOS like this, we don't have to ask for each individual clients consent in order to send their card to the printer, or for each of their check withdrawals. The other parts that we do not use are part of the standard formula that we were advised to use.

We have never provided any name or address to any other company for marketing or sales purposes. We are very keen on maintaining a high level of privacy, and we share info on a need-to-know basis.

Many people here use our service, and if we would sell the info, it would have been brought to everyone's attention long ago. Nobody can claim that we sold any info, simply because we didn't.

As for the PO boxes, it is a bank rule and is unrelated to any of the above. Sending the card to the actual address is one of the banking KYC rules.

Then change your TOS to say exactly that. There's no reason to specifically mention "direct marketers". You sound much like a used car salesman who gives me a contract stating "Miles appearing on the odometer may not be actual miles. Buyer assumes all risk and no warranty is implied of any kind" while at the same time telling me not to worry about it because it is actual miles and I have a two year warranty. It doesn't matter what you say here. What matters is what is on the contract.

As for "No PO Boxes" I will never give an adult company my physical address unless I have no other possible option. Who wants to receive adult business stuff at their home address? At least make sure that address is only used to send the initial card then NEVER mail me anything else there again.

And I should mention my U.S. Bank which is also FDIC insured and fully regulated has no problem sending my cards to my PO Box. In fact I've never had any such issue with a bank not willing to do this. In addition Paypal has no problem with my PO Box.

[2intense]

i support PAXUM