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Old 04-04-2012, 08:00 PM   #51
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Old 04-04-2012, 09:43 PM   #52
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I had a site which was ranked 1st for the target term, earning me well over 1k/month, then BOOM one day it completely disappeared.

I didn't think much of it at first due to the nature of the beast. However with time the site did not resurface in the rankings so I did a bit of digging.

Some asshat had submitted hundreds of backlinks to negative sites, thus getting my site booted from the rankings. I did quite a lot of reading on the subject, and even a video by Matt Cutts says that this really should not even be possible and they have nothing in place to review it if it does indeed happen to you.

With this being a newer site of mine I did not have a track records of high quality backlinks so it made it that much easier for the asshole to knock me out of the rankings.

I have tried a number of things since but it seems the domain is doomed and I am done fucking with it.

I have never in my life used shady techniques against my competition. Fucking assholes.

Not sure why I am even posting this here (hopefully it doesn't give anyone else the idea).
There's a special place in hell for cocksuckers who do that shit.
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Old 04-04-2012, 09:52 PM   #53
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I came across what purports to be a fix for this today, but I'm not posting it here obviously.
why not? im sure you could sell that......
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Old 04-19-2012, 03:38 AM   #54
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Pixelgrinder and I conducted a little experiment on whether negative seo was possible in the current climate - we felt it was important to know whether it was possible for a site to be negatively affected completely by outside influences. This experiment was not done with the knowledge or consent of TrafficPlanet.com owners/admin/moderators.

We carried out a massive scrapebox blast on two sites to ensure an accurate result. The two sites we chose and the reasons we chose them are as follows:

seofaststart.com (Dan Thies)

1. He has received a direct response from Matt Cutts on Twitter, so if we were able to affect his site he is more likely than most to get the ear of the right person and show google what can be done (https://twitter.com/#!/danthies/stat...89475497676801)

2. A self proclaimed "seo guru" (Hi, I'm Dan Thies. Although I'm best known as the "keyword guru," I've been practicing, studying and teaching advanced search engine marketing strategy and tactics for several years http://www.seoresearchlabs.com/) - it should be harder than most to affect the site of an "seo guru".

3. If it works, he should be smart enough to profit from all of the publicity he would get out of it.

4. He already has several domains 301d to seofaststart.com without penalty (not a white hat tactic) - we were wondering if he had been 'protected' in some way.

5. He is a suck-up-brown-noser, smugly bad mouthing everyone and crowing that "many pants are being pooped and it's long overdue" - we don't like him.

negativeseo.me

1. They are selling services for negative seo under the tagline "destroy your competitors".

Rankings Before (22nd March):

seofaststart.com
dan thies - number 1
seo - number 11
seo service - number 34
seo book - number 3

negativeseo.me
negative seo - number 2
destroy your competitiors - number 1

Timeline:

15th March - Dan Thies posts smug tweets to Matt Cutts and pisses off the entire internet.

18th March - seofaststart.com - blog posts started - anchor text "seo" "seo service" and "seo book"

22th March - seofaststart.com - 1 million scrapebox blast started - 100% anchor text "Dan Thies"

24th March - negativeseo.com - 1 million scrapebox blast started - 100% anchor text "destroy your competitors"

26th March - Dan Thies posts in Twitter that he has received an unnatural links message.

Note: 18th March - seofaststart blog posts started. This was NOT US. We had previously decided that it would be risky to 'out' the blogs that links were getting placed on and agreed not to include blog posts in our experiment. We don't know who did this, how many links they built or what network/s they used. We discovered these links in ahrefs and have estimated that about 5000 links where built, probably with ALN between the 18th-23rd March.

Ranking After (18th April) note rankings are still jumping a little:

seofaststart.com
dan thies - number 1 (still number 1)
seo - not in top 1000 (down from number 11)
seo service - not in top 1000 (down from number 34)
seo book - number 34 (down from number 3)

negativeseo.me
negative seo - number 6 (down from number 2)
destroy your competitiors - number 13 (down from number 1)

Other stuff of interest right now:

ahrefs seofaststart.com (notice how few of our 1 million scapebox links have shown up!)
https://ahrefs.com/site-explorer/bac...ofaststart.com

ahrefs negativeseo.me (notice how few of our 1 million scrapebox links have shown up!)
https://ahrefs.com/site-explorer/bac...negativeseo.me

Dan Thies begging on google groups
https://groups.google.com/a/googlepr...at/Azfly-iRtLs


Our personal message to Matt Cutts/Google:

Negative SEO is possible. Sort it out!

Our personal message to Dan Thies:

Next time you want to smugly throw your holier than thou 2 cents into the ring, think before you speak. Every backlink to your site was analyzed before starting this. Don't think those 301d domains hide what you are doing because they don't - you are the same as the rest of us - your methods for link bait are, in fact, worse than some of the 'spammers' you so often refer to. Now your pants are being pooped and it's long overdue
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Old 04-19-2012, 04:04 AM   #55
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99% of the people that got this message got it because they built links on ALN, BMR, and the other big networks; I seriously doubt that it is that easy to damage a site with xrumer or SB, but you never know

u-Bob, if you read the thread on TP, you will see that most of the damage to the 1st site was because of ALN (according to some of the comments) ...
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Old 04-19-2012, 04:24 AM   #56
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No doubt that helped in the case of the first site (taking into account the competitiveness of the niche). Given the amount of attention this is getting (on TP, WF, WF,...), it should be interesting to see how G reacts when every kid on the block starts 'attacking' its competitors.
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Old 04-19-2012, 07:28 AM   #57
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and too many (all or nealry all) exact match anchor text links - another factor that could trigger the penalty
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Old 04-19-2012, 07:32 AM   #58
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