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Old 04-21-2012, 12:21 PM   #1
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Time Spent Editing Photos?

This is for the content shooters and solo webmasters, but much time to do you spend in post editing pictures for content sets?

I love taking pics but hate editing them. I only seem to get 3 done in an hour and then can't stand to look at the same set of pics anymore.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:53 PM   #2
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This is for the content shooters and solo webmasters, but much time to do you spend in post editing pictures for content sets?

I love taking pics but hate editing them. I only seem to get 3 done in an hour and then can't stand to look at the same set of pics anymore.
couldn't take retouching entire photosets, it's brutal ponderous work. ask Pseudonymous how he likes it

we're training some new people to edit photos, it's a long process. i don't want to spend more than 30 dollars per photoset. pretty hard to find anybody good at that price and who can churn out work reasonably fast.
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:11 PM   #3
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You can spend A LOT of time editing. Get a good make up artist to go over the girl before you shoot, it will save you a lot of post time.

After that, keep touch ups basic, (don't obsess over every little thing) and save your scripts to batch process the ones with similar colors and lighting.
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Old 04-21-2012, 03:34 PM   #4
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It depends on your definition of editing.

Depending on the model and the amount of motorbike accident scars, knife or other wounds, bad skin problems and visible std issues each photo costs between 5-10 minutes. That is just prepping them for a batch run that will complete some minor editing and watemark them.

Add A LOT more time if stray hairs need to be removed from the face or if they have a major skin issue. (I don't even do the stay hairs anymore unless they totally ruin the pic)

Don't forget to count renaming them, cropping a good thumb and adding the extra zip. (all fast but it adds up)

We have a bunch of sets of a fat girl that takes me so long I don't even keep track of the time because her skin is so fucked up.

If you want to speed things up a little bit invest in a good tablet if you don't have one already. The same thing was recommended to me 3 years ago and I never got around to getting one until recently. I have a post it on my bathroom mirror to remind myself to punch myself in the face for not taking the advice. Not only does it speed you up a little bit but it makes the whole process more enjoyable.
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Old 04-21-2012, 03:43 PM   #5
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I don't shoot content but I do shoot hobby art nudes. I spend about 2 hours retouching for every hour shooting. Gets to be a pain sometimes, but it's part of the process.
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:33 PM   #6
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It takes me a full day to edit an 100 pic set. and thats non stop working. obviously with a break here and there because its hard on your hands after hours and hours

I obsess over every small detail and keep it as natural looking as possible in the meantime.

To have somebody do it as well as i do them, it would cost a ton since I have 115+ sets of a model and its just not worth it.




Open them up in a new tab to see full size, then zoom into her face

I do that to every image ive ever released and i hate every minute of it
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:44 PM   #7
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I don't shoot content sets so prob not my place to add my but I do make some sites for myself and play around with content sets I buy. I also do image manipulation for my mainstream job. I also shot (before my camera died ) a lot of hobby photography like daily just spend an hour or two shooting shit and go in and play with the shots I thought were decent.

I love editing pictures. It takes a while for some shots but it truly rewarding when you are finished (At least for me it is). Some are quick others are long but for me its relaxing. I love when the quick selection tool just doesn't cut it and I have to go in 12 - 1600% with the pen tool and crop someone. I also enjoy going into the images at the same zoom with a 1 - 4px clone brush and having at it. There are a lot of photogs though that feel the same as you do. One of the leading wedding photographers uses a service where she sends them a hd and they do the post work and send it back.

I agree with the above post that you could shave some time off if you use actions.
You can also find a lot of nice ones via google for PS. The advice about the tablet is good as well. You can get large ones cheap on amazon but if you could afford the wacom ones that would be awesome.
http://www.wacom.com/en/Products/Cintiq.aspx

I'm by far an expert at this (so don't be too hard on me please) but here are a couple of samples of my playing around. To be honest I don't remember how long it took to play around wit most of this stuff. The time just flies by.









PS: Gotta love adult labs, great photos there.
The one set with the blond chick and the tiger is hilarious.
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:48 PM   #8
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It takes me a full day to edit an 100 pic set. and thats non stop working. obviously with a break here and there because its hard on your hands after hours and hours

I obsess over every small detail and keep it as natural looking as possible in the meantime.

To have somebody do it as well as i do them, it would cost a ton since I have 115+ sets of a model and its just not worth it.




Open them up in a new tab to see full size, then zoom into her face

I do that to every image ive ever released and i hate every minute of it
Great stuff man.
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:55 PM   #9
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photo retouching is tedious! BUt if you need it hit me up!

20-25 hour... 6-12 pics an hour for hand touched.

Much cheaper for batch corrections such as color and contrast...

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Old 04-21-2012, 04:57 PM   #10
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If anyone is interested in trying out my services I'm always open to touching up a couple test photos according to your specifications. If you like what you see we can move forward from there.

You guys see my work all the time and just dont know it
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:59 PM   #11
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It takes me a full day to edit an 100 pic set. and thats non stop working. obviously with a break here and there because its hard on your hands after hours and hours

I obsess over every small detail and keep it as natural looking as possible in the meantime.
Pretty much sums it up for me as well. Similiar time frame...and I can identify with the obsessing over every detail, too. I can recall many 12-14hr. editing marathons over the past 12 years...often late into the night to have the next day's 120-pic update ready to go on all sites.
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Old 04-21-2012, 05:03 PM   #12
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Pretty much sums it up for me as well. Similiar time frame...and I can identify with the obsessing over every detail, too. I can recall many 12-14hr. editing marathons over the past 12 years...often late into the night to have the next day's 120-pic update ready to go on all sites.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!

Where have you been?
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Old 04-21-2012, 05:26 PM   #13
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we are a bit different, because we shoot for ourself, and we retouch for other companies.

..as far as my own content.. and my own shoots go as a general rule if we spend one hour shooting we spend 4 in post, I'm about to change the number this year, to 5 hours in post. I just havn't had the time to measure it out this year. However that number can shoot up or down A LOT.. ( but that is from.. raw to the internet)

That is basically my time ( or human time).. the computers are often working on stuff for much longer. If I shoot 50 to 100 gigs of data.. I can set the computer to upload and it will be uploading for a long time ( a day or two).. but it only take me a few minutes to set up the ftp and upload it.

but that include downloading, converting from raw to jpg, processing / editing / retouching / .. uploading..sorting or uploading 2257 / release.. everything..

..

for just retouching.. it depends on project..

we have retouched for a ton of the porn sites ( many photographer hire us)..even mainstream stuff..

it can go any where from 2 or 3 images per hour ( higher end sites).. to 30 images per hour or more...

We do anything from completely automated processing ( 200+ images an hour).. to very high end hand retouching.

Many photographer don't understand the workflow part of photography, I am slowly getting ready to write a photography book on working for the internet / or shooting content for the internet.
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:23 PM   #14
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I didn't know you guys spent so much time. So THAT'S one reason my pics look nothing like yours.

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You can spend A LOT of time editing. Get a good make up artist to go over the girl before you shoot, it will save you a lot of post time.
Reminds me of audio. Yes, you CAN fix it in post, but it'll take about ten times as long as it would to address it beforehand.

It sounds like it might be worthwhile to have a programmer sit with one of you guys for a few hours and see how the tools could be improved to aid the work. Not to make it fully automatic, of course, but to make slowest part go a little faster.
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we are a bit different, because we shoot for ourself, and we retouch for other companies.

..as far as my own content.. and my own shoots go as a general rule if we spend one hour shooting we spend 4 in post, I'm about to change the number this year, to 5 hours in post. I just havn't had the time to measure it out this year. However that number can shoot up or down A LOT.. ( but that is from.. raw to the internet)

That is basically my time ( or human time).. the computers are often working on stuff for much longer. If I shoot 50 to 100 gigs of data.. I can set the computer to upload and it will be uploading for a long time ( a day or two).. but it only take me a few minutes to set up the ftp and upload it.

but that include downloading, converting from raw to jpg, processing / editing / retouching / .. uploading..sorting or uploading 2257 / release.. everything..

..

for just retouching.. it depends on project..

we have retouched for a ton of the porn sites ( many photographer hire us)..even mainstream stuff..

it can go any where from 2 or 3 images per hour ( higher end sites).. to 30 images per hour or more...

We do anything from completely automated processing ( 200+ images an hour).. to very high end hand retouching.

Many photographer don't understand the workflow part of photography, I am slowly getting ready to write a photography book on working for the internet / or shooting content for the internet.
and what do you charge per photoset of typical solo girl site type photography where there's a medium amount of retouching (some facial acne, razor burn/bumps on pussy etc)?

completely automated sucks, can't get good results - means all you're doing is a doing batch actions using a Photoshop plugin like Portraiture.
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!

Where have you been?
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This is for the content shooters and solo webmasters, but much time to do you spend in post editing pictures for content sets?

I love taking pics but hate editing them. I only seem to get 3 done in an hour and then can't stand to look at the same set of pics anymore.
I shoot pretty close to what I need so about 30 min per set, then batch, I'll shoot 20+ sets a day at times...so I stay pretty busy.. and if there are issues with butt acne or something... it can take forever

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.. and if there are issues with butt acne or something...
I always keep a spatula, orbital sander and some drywall filler handy for just such occasions.
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I generally try to take 2 min or less per image.

If anyone needs retouching/airbrushing services hit me up. I've done work for Digital Playground, Marquis Models, Jelena Jenson, Ryan Keely, Holly Randall and more.
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It takes me a full day to edit an 100 pic set. and thats non stop working. obviously with a break here and there because its hard on your hands after hours and hours

I obsess over every small detail and keep it as natural looking as possible in the meantime.

To have somebody do it as well as i do them, it would cost a ton since I have 115+ sets of a model and its just not worth it.




Open them up in a new tab to see full size, then zoom into her face

I do that to every image ive ever released and i hate every minute of it
Nice work!
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:41 PM   #21
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When I used to shoot, I would shoot once a week for the whole day and spend the entire week fixing up the photo and video content.

Definitely at least 2-3 hours for every hour of shooting.
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I hate retouching photos. I try and get good images straight out of the camera. All about the lighting.
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