Is It Really True That Ratios Decline When Manwin Buys A Program? - GoFuckYourself.com

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 11:21 AM

did anyone's twistys ratios go down? euro revenue? playboy?

i think everyone is confusing them with mediarevenue.

Rothstein · 04-22-2012, 11:33 AM

1:230 average for me on all manwin programs on tgp traffic.

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 11:35 AM

thanks for the insight.

signupdamnit · 04-22-2012, 11:37 AM

I thought you were seeing the same thing or did the ratios get better for you in the later months?

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guess that's why the shave has been cranked up lately. a giant final fuck you to the affiliates who made them who they are.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18506545&postcount=13

I saw the ratios fall drastically when they bought webcams.com. Funny things happened to the stats such as for a time they were all zeroed out, past money due disappeared. At the least there were technical problems. They never came out and publicly declared they owned it until around six months later. There were a few threads about it. In the last six months (including the topic you posted on)) I've seen a lot of people complaining about ND and Program3. But then there are some who say everything is fine. Let's see what people have to say.

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 11:45 AM

ratios good / same - 1

ratios worsened - 1

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 11:47 AM

no one knows when when they took over the rk properties so they are not allowed in this informal poll.

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 11:55 AM

twistys, euro revenue, reality cash, playboy, webcams.com, digital playground, brazzers.

signupdamnit · 04-22-2012, 11:56 AM

Here's one of the threads about webcams.com not too long after they were bought by Manwin. If my memory is correct on the date being around March or April 2010.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=976102

There were a lot of other threads like this and many affiliates claiming problems.

Some sample messages:

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I used to do pretty well with their revshare. A few months ago, my re-buys dropped dramatically. I have more traffic than I did then, still getting a couple new members every week, but no one is fucking buying anything.

AWE, however, is fucking killing it for me.

How are your Webcams.com revshares looking?

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Yes, I heard something is broke on their site. Sales have sucked and I am told they have not approved any new models in well over a week. Maybe someone from Webcams can tell us what is going on? When will your site be fixed?

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It's in the shitter for everything.

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2.99$ one signup, -24.95$ chargeback
1:10 000 +

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0:6020 - Sales have stopped totally

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Same here.

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should've left webcams when they got bought out folks...

Thats what I did and I am more than happy with whom I'm with now.

ps. I miss you Blake

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no that is not true the problem here is that the program got sold and they changed the good way that this site was managed

Here's a message from me July 1, 2010 complaining about it. I knew nothing of Fabian buying it so it wasn't a case of my being out to get Manwin.

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Around April something happened with their stats. I believe they changed systems or such? I'm not sure but I see it in my stats as it's all fucked up before then. Anyway shortly before that I decided they were a lost cause and pulled most of my links. There's still a trickle to them but no signups. No rebills of any kind either. Conversions in the 1:5,000 ballpark here with that trickle traffic.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17300525&postcount=5

Then someone replied to my reply with:

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That's when it went bad for me too. I contacted webcams about it, and they gave me the usual runaround. Told me I need to do things differently and that I need to send more traffic. I'm with IMLive now but things are really bad with them, too. Who else is there to try? I'd like to try MTree but their minimum payout is really high.

I'll let someone else do ND, BB, or program3 in the last six months if they want. There are a ton of threads.

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 11:57 AM

my thread my rules sorry. to soon for rk. no one knows when they were taken over.

arock10 · 04-22-2012, 12:08 PM

Webcams died hard for me when they took over.

Twistys and playboy always converted terribly so hard to tell

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 12:09 PM

ratios good / same - 1

ratios worsened - 2

yes playboy and twistys always did horrible on the affiliate side for me as well.

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 12:12 PM

part of the problem with webcams.com is their join page and credit package options. i don't know if it was always like that but it's as confusing as hell as to what you are buying and i can see surfers just moving on.

GAMEFINEST · 04-22-2012, 12:17 PM

not a big diff here

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 12:19 PM

ratios good / same - 2

ratios worsened - 2

Nicky · 04-22-2012, 12:25 PM

I can guarantee that eurorevenues ratios didn't worsen.

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 12:52 PM

ratios good / same - 3

ratios worsened - 2

signupdamnit · 04-22-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

ratios good / same - 3

ratios worsened - 2

Isn't Nicky a Manwin employee?

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 01:00 PM

he has access to stats so he would know. vote stays.

jimmycooper · 04-22-2012, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

ratios good / same - 3

ratios worsened - 2

No offense to Nicky or anything, but you may want to reconsider giving him a fully weighted vote. I'd really hate to see bias sneak in and corrupt your highly scientific little poll. Give him a half weight. Make it 2.5 to 2.

signupdamnit · 04-22-2012, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper

No offense to Nicky or anything, but you may want to reconsider giving him a fully weighted vote. I'd really hate to see bias sneak in and corrupt your highly scientific little poll. Give him a half weight. Make it 2.5 to 2.

I think he's also counting Rothstein who is either a TGP god or else is trollin'.

His poll though. People can take off those votes they don't trust on their own if they want.

fris · 04-22-2012, 01:10 PM

only happens with mediarevenue

Nicky · 04-22-2012, 01:11 PM

I have access to stats and I am telling the truth.

Brujah · 04-22-2012, 01:15 PM

Ratios have definitely improved. I don't even send traffic to Manwin programs anymore, and my sales have doubled.

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

only happens with mediarevenue

yeah i think people have got the two confused.

Nick-Mindgeek · 04-22-2012, 02:18 PM

Hey,

I'll answer this question very easily.
Every single program we have ever acquired has seen huge increase in traffic and joins ! Increase from affiliates, media buys , you name it.

When we acquire programs my inboxes gets flooded with requests from affilites happy " we can finally promote this brand with confidence "

If ANYONE has a drop in conversions in anyone of our products, hit me up right away ;)

We can even take a spot off your hands pre paid. This way you don't have to worry about a thing.

Hope this clears it up.

Cheers.

BlackCrayon · 04-22-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by neeko

Hey,

I'll answer this question very easily.
Every single program we have ever acquired has seen huge increase in traffic and joins ! Increase from affiliates, media buys , you name it.

When we acquire programs my inboxes gets flooded with requests from affilites happy " we can finally promote this brand with confidence "

If ANYONE has a drop in conversions in anyone of our products, hit me up right away ;)

We can even take a spot off your hands pre paid. This way you don't have to worry about a thing.

Hope this clears it up.

Cheers.

this is not what is typically seen on the boards though. why would that be?

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

this is not what is typically seen on the boards though. why would that be?

leaving rk out of it, aside from webcams.com, examples?

Nick-Mindgeek · 04-22-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

this is not what is typically seen on the boards though. why would that be?

There will always be campaigns that die. That key is to work with us to keep ratios and sales on the increase. We do this quite well with some really remarkable technologies we have built.

Reach out. You'll be impressed with the cash our team can make on your traffic !

mineistaken · 04-22-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by neeko

Hey,

I'll answer this question very easily.
Every single program we have ever acquired has seen huge increase in traffic and joins ! Increase from affiliates, media buys , you name it.

When we acquire programs my inboxes gets flooded with requests from affilites happy " we can finally promote this brand with confidence "

If ANYONE has a drop in conversions in anyone of our products, hit me up right away ;)

We can even take a spot off your hands pre paid. This way you don't have to worry about a thing.

Hope this clears it up.

Cheers.

sure you got us convinced.

fris · 04-22-2012, 02:56 PM

neko can you hit me up 704-299

Nick-Mindgeek · 04-22-2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

neko can you hit me up 704-299

First thing tomorrow, if that's ok.

signupdamnit · 04-22-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

leaving rk out of it, aside from webcams.com, examples?

"Twisty's Rebills"
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1039408

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Anyone else have a drop of 50% or more in rebills for Twistys? This is very odd. It's been a solid for years.

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yes.. i have this month, i found it extremely odd...

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Ok well at least that verifies that I'm not the only one. Shap and his team did an amazing job. I guess all good things come to an end...

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for everyone commenting on the members area, and drop in standards... did any of you actually look in the members?.. the standards havent dropped and more thanlikely the content was shot well before..

however it is odd rebills have dropped as much as ive seen

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1039408

Adraco · 04-22-2012, 03:39 PM

I will say on the contrary,

for me, Playboy has finally taken off and doing nice regular sales and Twistys that I always liked but wasn't able to convert has turned around and seeing nice rebills! I can't say that I'm in any one way unhappy with how the sites are being run, for me it has turned out good.

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 04:06 PM

i could cherry pick posts all day from webmasters to prove either point. i want to hear first hand experiences. thanks.

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

"Twisty's Rebills"

signupdamnit · 04-22-2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

i could cherry pick posts all day from webmasters to prove either point. i want to hear first hand experiences. thanks.

BlackCrayon told you there were examples all over the board. You asked for them. I gave you one. I could find a couple dozen more but you don't want them so I won't do that.

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

this is not what is typically seen on the boards though. why would that be?

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Originally Posted by pornojew

leaving rk out of it, aside from webcams.com, examples?

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 04:29 PM

ratios good / same / improved - 4

ratios worsened - 2

VenusBlogger · 04-22-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

did anyone's twistys ratios go down? euro revenue? playboy?

i think everyone is confusing them with mediarevenue.

STOP whining, you have no fucking idea.

If you can't convert a paysite then go to work on McDonalds.

I do pretty well with paysites -> 1:250 on average.

Nobody here knows any of your SITES, do you own any, or are you just a FAKE LURKER here browsing 24/7 the forum and posting 100 times a day?

Man, nobody here knows any of your sites... Are you an adult webmaster at all?

In your FACE!

PERIOD.

wehateporn · 04-22-2012, 04:32 PM

Playboy seems to have got better for me
For March and April I'm converting at 1:609

Over the same period in 2011 I was doing 1:749

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by VenusBlogger

STOP whining, you have no fucking idea.

If you can't convert a paysite then go to work on McDonalds.

I do pretty well with paysites -> 1:250 on average.

Nobody here knows any of your SITES, do you own any, or are you just a FAKE LURKER here browsing 24/7 the forum and posting 100 times a day?

Man, nobody here knows any of your sites... Are you an adult webmaster at all?

In your FACE!

PERIOD.

sold all my sites. just do youtube video promotion now.

period.

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

Playboy seems to have got better for me
For March and April I'm converting at 1:609

Over the same period in 2011 I was doing 1:749

nice. i think you promote quite a bit of playboy as well.

ratios good / same / improved - 5

ratios worsened - 2

Sly · 04-22-2012, 04:38 PM

I'm having problems figuring out the new multi program interface. How do I make it show stats only for the Playboy program?

Many years ago I did pretty good with that program, I doubt I'm sending it much traffic these days.

Nick-Mindgeek · 04-22-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I'm having problems figuring out the new multi program interface. How do I make it show stats only for the Playboy program?

Many years ago I did pretty good with that program, I doubt I'm sending it much traffic these days.

The multiple brands stuffed inside realitycash will be fixed shortly. This was done in the past.

In a bit :

Realitycash will be the home of reality gang
Playboywebmasters will be the home of all playboy properties.

There is some amazing stuff coming from playboy very soon. The playboy brand will explode online as it truly deserves !

Hit me up for playboy beta new products ;)

jimmycooper · 04-22-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by neeko

The multiple brands stuffed inside realitycash will be fixed shortly. This was done in the past.

In a bit :

Realitycash will be the home of reality gang
Playboywebmasters will be the home of all playboy properties.

There is some amazing stuff coming from playboy very soon. The playboy brand will explode online as it truly deserves !

Hit me up for playboy beta new products ;)

Do you anticipate ever having the rights to German playboy as affiliate content?

DWB · 04-22-2012, 05:34 PM

Doesn't make much sense to buy assets and harm them. With all of their traffic and stats from that traffic, I would think they have conversions dialed in even more. In theory, you should be making a lot more money with Manwin running the site.

It's a little surprising to hear so many are not.

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

It's a little surprising to hear so many are not.

ratios worsened - 2

iSpyCams · 04-22-2012, 07:41 PM

Webcams got really bad for me. I also used to get good conversions on Fling with Nasty Dollars but not anymore.

Content sites on Nasty Dollars still seems to convert well.

Nick-Mindgeek · 04-22-2012, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Do you anticipate ever having the rights to German playboy as affiliate content?

Thats a great question. Will have to check this and let you know.

TheSquealer · 04-22-2012, 07:42 PM

Every time Manwin buys a website, an angel gets its wings.

jimmycooper · 04-22-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

Webcams got really bad for me. I also used to get good conversions on Fling with Nasty Dollars but not anymore.

Content sites on Nasty Dollars still seems to convert well.

OK, here's the new tally

ratios good / same / improved - 6

ratios worsened - 4

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Originally Posted by neeko

Thats a great question. Will have to check this and let you know.

Cool. Even model specific banners would be great.

Paul Markham · 04-23-2012, 12:42 AM

Would a man who created something then runs it with attention, care and love.

Will it perform better than some guy on a wage running it?

Appreciate that in a big company a lot of work is given to employees, still the man at the top has over all command.

04-22-2012, 11:21 AM	#1
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	Is It Really True That Ratios Decline When Manwin Buys A Program? did anyone's twistys ratios go down? euro revenue? playboy? i think everyone is confusing them with mediarevenue.

04-22-2012, 12:08 PM	#10
arock10 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,218	Webcams died hard for me when they took over. Twistys and playboy always converted terribly so hard to tell __________________ Sup

04-22-2012, 12:17 PM	#13
GAMEFINEST Make STACK$ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: sexy time Posts: 14,418	not a big diff here __________________ Compound interest.

04-22-2012, 12:25 PM	#15
Nicky Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,069	I can guarantee that eurorevenues ratios didn't worsen. __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

04-22-2012, 01:10 PM	#21
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,239	only happens with mediarevenue __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

04-22-2012, 11:33 AM	#2
Rothstein So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Frostburg, MD Posts: 682	1:230 average for me on all manwin programs on tgp traffic.

04-22-2012, 11:35 AM	#3
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	thanks for the insight.

04-22-2012, 11:45 AM	#5
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	ratios good / same - 1 ratios worsened - 1

04-22-2012, 11:47 AM	#6
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	no one knows when when they took over the rk properties so they are not allowed in this informal poll.

04-22-2012, 11:55 AM	#7
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	twistys, euro revenue, reality cash, playboy, webcams.com, digital playground, brazzers.

04-22-2012, 11:57 AM	#9
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	my thread my rules sorry. to soon for rk. no one knows when they were taken over.

04-22-2012, 12:09 PM	#11
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	ratios good / same - 1 ratios worsened - 2 yes playboy and twistys always did horrible on the affiliate side for me as well.

04-22-2012, 12:12 PM	#12
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	part of the problem with webcams.com is their join page and credit package options. i don't know if it was always like that but it's as confusing as hell as to what you are buying and i can see surfers just moving on.

04-22-2012, 12:19 PM	#14
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	ratios good / same - 2 ratios worsened - 2

04-22-2012, 12:52 PM	#16
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	ratios good / same - 3 ratios worsened - 2

04-22-2012, 01:00 PM	#18
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	he has access to stats so he would know. vote stays.

04-22-2012, 01:11 PM	#22
Nicky Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,069	I have access to stats and I am telling the truth. __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

04-22-2012, 01:15 PM	#23
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Ratios have definitely improved. I don't even send traffic to Manwin programs anymore, and my sales have doubled. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

04-22-2012, 02:18 PM	#25
Nick-Mindgeek Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Montreal Posts: 700	Hey, I'll answer this question very easily. Every single program we have ever acquired has seen huge increase in traffic and joins ! Increase from affiliates, media buys , you name it. When we acquire programs my inboxes gets flooded with requests from affilites happy " we can finally promote this brand with confidence " If ANYONE has a drop in conversions in anyone of our products, hit me up right away ;) We can even take a spot off your hands pre paid. This way you don't have to worry about a thing. Hope this clears it up. Cheers. Last edited by Nick-Mindgeek; 04-22-2012 at 02:19 PM..

04-22-2012, 02:56 PM	#30
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,239	neko can you hit me up 704-299 __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

04-22-2012, 03:39 PM	#33
Adraco Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Location: Onboard an airplane around the globe Posts: 3,733	I will say on the contrary, for me, Playboy has finally taken off and doing nice regular sales and Twistys that I always liked but wasn't able to convert has turned around and seeing nice rebills! I can't say that I'm in any one way unhappy with how the sites are being run, for me it has turned out good. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The truth is not affected by the beliefs, or doubts, of the majority.

04-22-2012, 04:29 PM	#36
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	ratios good / same / improved - 4 ratios worsened - 2

04-22-2012, 04:32 PM	#38
wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	Playboy seems to have got better for me For March and April I'm converting at 1:609 Over the same period in 2011 I was doing 1:749 __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

04-22-2012, 04:38 PM	#41
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,289	I'm having problems figuring out the new multi program interface. How do I make it show stats only for the Playboy program? Many years ago I did pretty good with that program, I doubt I'm sending it much traffic these days. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Wanted: CCBill pay sites for sale

04-22-2012, 05:34 PM	#44
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Doesn't make much sense to buy assets and harm them. With all of their traffic and stats from that traffic, I would think they have conversions dialed in even more. In theory, you should be making a lot more money with Manwin running the site. It's a little surprising to hear so many are not.

04-22-2012, 07:41 PM	#46
iSpyCams Amateur Gynecologist Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Location: Medellin Posts: 4,436	Webcams got really bad for me. I also used to get good conversions on Fling with Nasty Dollars but not anymore. Content sites on Nasty Dollars still seems to convert well.

04-22-2012, 07:42 PM	#48
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,080	Every time Manwin buys a website, an angel gets its wings. __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard

04-23-2012, 12:42 AM	#50
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Would a man who created something then runs it with attention, care and love. Will it perform better than some guy on a wage running it? Appreciate that in a big company a lot of work is given to employees, still the man at the top has over all command. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70