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Old 10-31-2013, 03:14 PM   #1
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Any GFYers Still Eating Fish from the Pacific?

Interested to see how many have changed their habits in a post-Fukushima world
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It would be interesting to see when you finally end up in an asylum being tied to a bed and fed intravenously drugs day and day out to curb your paranoia and delusions.
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It would be interesting to see when you finally end up in an asylum being tied to a bed and fed intravenously drugs day and day out to curb your paranoia and delusions.
I'll be in the room nextdoor to this Nuclear Power expert

"Nuclear power expert, Arnold Gundersen, told RT that the health risks are great and continue to increase every year.

?Somewhere between 100,000 to 1,000,000 [people] will over the next thirty years get cancer from this accident...1,000 additional cancers a year from eating fish from the Pacific.?

http://rt.com/news/fukushima-politic...r-emperor-033/
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I have trouble believing the entire Pacific ocean (64 million sq miles give or take) is tainted. I regularly buy and eat Basa fillets from SE Asian waters for example, and will continue to do so either until I start to glow or until Health Canada puts a ban on it.

Basa is good eatin'.
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i'm not worried, i eat my pacific seafood fried, that kills all the radiation.
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If I get the choice in the supermarket I go Atlantic, the other day there was no choice so I ended up with Pacific. I was thinking the same as you, i.e. "That place is massive", I guess it also depends how close they fish to Japan.

I see the radioactive plume is due to start arriving on the US West Coast in 2014, peaking in 2016

Fukushima's Radioactive Ocean Plume to Reach US Waters by 2014

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I have trouble believing the entire Pacific ocean (64 million sq miles give or take) is tainted. I regularly buy and eat Basa fillets from SE Asian waters for example, and will continue to do so either until I start to glow or until Health Canada puts a ban on it.

Basa is good eatin'.
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i'm not worried, i eat my pacific seafood fried, that kills all the radiation.
Good tip to know
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I'll be in the room nextdoor to this Nuclear Power expert

"Nuclear power expert, Arnold Gundersen, told RT that the health risks are great and continue to increase every year.

?Somewhere between 100,000 to 1,000,000 [people] will over the next thirty years get cancer from this accident...1,000 additional cancers a year from eating fish from the Pacific.?

http://rt.com/news/fukushima-politic...r-emperor-033/
A "nuclear power plant expert" is an expert on cancer in humans?? Good luck with that.

I'll be the one visiting a top level oncologist, getting state of the art treatment and surviving while you are rubbing crystals on your stomach and praying to the aliens you believe built the pyramids as you wither and die, insisting that too, was a conspiracy.
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For salmon I seem to buy strickly atlantic. That's not anything to do with the Japan disaster though, it's more of a taste in products that I've been buying for decades now.

I've heard of higher radiation hitting the US coast at some point, but have yet to hear anything about the waters around Viet Nam, the Philippines, etc. And Health Canada ALWAYS issues advisories and/or outright bans when imported food tests unsafe.
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A "nuclear power plant expert" is an expert on cancer in humans?? Good luck with that.

I'll be the one visiting a top level oncologist, getting state of the art treatment and surviving while you are rubbing crystals on your stomach and praying to the aliens you believe built the pyramids as you wither and die, insisting that too, was a conspiracy.
You actually sound like you're looking forward to your Cancer treatment

The more I look into this, I won't be buying Pacific again

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL131...-fukushima.htm

28 Signs That the West Coast Is Being Absolutely Fried with Nuclear Radiation from Fukushima

1. Polar bears, seals and walruses along the Alaska coastline are suffering from fur loss and open sores?

Wildlife experts are studying whether fur loss and open sores detected in nine polar bears in recent weeks is widespread and related to similar incidents among seals and walruses.

The bears were among 33 spotted near Barrow, Alaska, during routine survey work along the Arctic coastline. Tests showed they had ?alopecia, or loss of fur, and other skin lesions,? the U.S. Geological Survey said in a statement.

2. There is an epidemic of sea lion deaths along the California coastline?

At island rookeries off the Southern California coast, 45 percent of the pups born in June have died, said Sharon Melin, a wildlife biologist for the National Marine Fisheries Service based in Seattle. Normally, less than one-third of the pups would die. It?s gotten so bad in the past two weeks that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration declared an ?unusual mortality event.?

3. Along the Pacific coast of Canada and the Alaska coastline, the population of sockeye salmon is at a historic low. Many are blaming Fukushima.

4. Something is causing fish all along the west coast of Canada to bleed from their gills, bellies and eyeballs.

5. A vast field of radioactive debris from Fukushima that is approximately the size of California has crossed the Pacific Ocean and is starting to collide with the west coast.

6. It is being projected that the radioactivity of coastal waters off the U.S. west coast could double over the next five to six years.

7. Experts have found very high levels of cesium-137 in plankton living in the waters of the Pacific Ocean between Hawaii and the west coast.

8. One test in California found that 15 out of 15 bluefin tuna were contaminated with radiation from Fukushima.

9. Back in 2012, the Vancouver Sun reported that cesium-137 was being found in a very high percentage of the fish that Japan was selling to Canada?

? 73 percent of mackerel tested
? 91 percent of the halibut
? 92 percent of the sardines
? 93 percent of the tuna and eel
? 94 percent of the cod and anchovies
? 100 percent of the carp, seaweed, shark and monkfish

10. Canadian authorities are finding extremely high levels of nuclear radiation in certain fish samples?

Some fish samples tested to date have had very high levels of radiation: one sea bass sample collected in July, for example, had 1,000 becquerels per kilogram of cesium.

11. Some experts believe that we could see very high levels of cancer along the west coast just from people eating contaminated fish?

?Look at what?s going on now: They?re dumping huge amounts of radioactivity into the ocean ? no one expected that in 2011,? Daniel Hirsch, a nuclear policy lecturer at the University of California-Santa Cruz, told Global Security Newswire. ?We could have large numbers of cancer from ingestion of fish.?

12. BBC News recently reported that radiation levels around Fukushima are ?18 times higher? than previously believed.

13. An EU-funded study concluded that Fukushima released up to 210 quadrillion becquerels of cesium-137 into the atmosphere.

14. Atmospheric radiation from Fukushima reached the west coast of the United States within a few days back in 2011.

15. At this point, 300 tons of contaminated water is pouring into the Pacific Ocean from Fukushima every single day.

16. A senior researcher of marine chemistry at the Japan Meteorological Agency?s Meteorological Research Institute says that ?30 billion becquerels of radioactive cesium and 30 billion becquerels of radioactive strontium? are being released into the Pacific Ocean from Fukushima every single day.

17. According to Tepco, a total of somewhere between 20 trillion and 40 trillion becquerels of radioactive tritium have gotten into the Pacific Ocean since the Fukushima disaster first began.

18. According to a professor at Tokyo University, 3 gigabecquerels of cesium-137 are flowing into the port at Fukushima Daiichi every single day.

19. It has been estimated that up to 100 times as much nuclear radiation has been released into the ocean from Fukushima than was released during the entire Chernobyl disaster.

20. One recent study concluded that a very large plume of cesium-137 from the Fukushima disaster will start flowing into U.S. coastal waters early next year?

Ocean simulations showed that the plume of radioactive cesium-137 released by the Fukushima disaster in 2011 could begin flowing into U.S. coastal waters starting in early 2014 and peak in 2016.

21. It is being projected that significant levels of cesium-137 will reach every corner of the Pacific Ocean by the year 2020.

22. It is being projected that the entire Pacific Ocean will soon ?have cesium levels 5 to 10 times higher? than what we witnessed during the era of heavy atomic bomb testing in the Pacific many decades ago.

23. The immense amounts of nuclear radiation getting into the water in the Pacific Ocean has caused environmental activist Joe Martino to issue the following warning?

?Your days of eating Pacific Ocean fish are over.?

24. The Iodine-131, Cesium-137 and Strontium-90 that are constantly coming from Fukushima are going to affect the health of those living the the northern hemisphere for a very, very long time. Just consider what Harvey Wasserman had to say about this?

Iodine-131, for example, can be ingested into the thyroid, where it emits beta particles (electrons) that damage tissue. A plague of damaged thyroids has already been reported among as many as 40 percent of the children in the Fukushima area. That percentage can only go higher. In developing youngsters, it can stunt both physical and mental growth. Among adults it causes a very wide range of ancillary ailments, including cancer.

Cesium-137 from Fukushima has been found in fish caught as far away as California. It spreads throughout the body, but tends to accumulate in the muscles.

Strontium-90?s half-life is around 29 years. It mimics calcium and goes to our bones.

25. According to a recent Planet Infowars report, the California coastline is being transformed into ?a dead zone??

The California coastline is becoming like a dead zone.

If you haven?t been to a California beach lately, you probably don?t know that the rocks are unnaturally CLEAN ? there?s hardly any kelp, barnacles, sea urchins, etc. anymore and the tide pools are similarly eerily devoid of crabs, snails and other scurrying signs of life? and especially as compared to 10 ? 15 years ago when one was wise to wear tennis shoes on a trip to the beach in order to avoid cutting one?s feet on all the STUFF of life ? broken shells, bones, glass, driftwood, etc.

There are also days when I am hard-pressed to find even a half dozen seagulls and/or terns on the county beach.

You can still find a few gulls trolling the picnic areas and some of the restaurants (with outdoor seating areas) for food, of course, but, when I think back to 10 ? 15 years ago, the skies and ALL the beaches were literally filled with seagulls and the haunting sound of their cries both day and night?

NOW it?s unnaturally quiet.

26. A study conducted last year came to the conclusion that radiation from the Fukushima nuclear disaster could negatively affect human life along the west coast of North America from Mexico to Alaska ?for decades?.

27. According to the Wall Street Journal, it is being projected that the cleanup of Fukushima could take up to 40 years to complete.

28. Yale Professor Charles Perrow is warning that if the cleanup of Fukushima is not handled with 100% precision that humanity could be threatened ?for thousands of years??

?Conditions in the unit 4 pool, 100 feet from the ground, are perilous, and if any two of the rods touch it could cause a nuclear reaction that would be uncontrollable. The radiation emitted from all these rods, if they are not continually cool and kept separate, would require the evacuation of surrounding areas including Tokyo. Because of the radiation at the site the 6,375 rods in the common storage pool could not be continuously cooled; they would fission and all of humanity will be threatened, for thousands of years.?

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Update on Basa -- I see that it is actually a freshwater fish, raised in and exported mainly from fish farms in SE Asia.

I think I'm good on the Japan radiation thing.
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For salmon I seem to buy strickly atlantic. That's not anything to do with the Japan disaster though, it's more of a taste in products that I've been buying for decades now.

I've heard of higher radiation hitting the US coast at some point, but have yet to hear anything about the waters around Viet Nam, the Philippines, etc. And Health Canada ALWAYS issues advisories and/or outright bans when imported food tests unsafe.
i don't get the choice for that, sadly, it's farm or wild, certainly always wild but i would think it has to come from the pacific.
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I don't know about the tastes, I only buy them for my Mrs, she doesn't care about this at all, I will try to get her Atlantic fish from now on just to be on the safe side.

Hopefully Health Canada do a good job

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I've heard of higher radiation hitting the US coast at some point, but have yet to hear anything about the waters around Viet Nam, the Philippines, etc. And Health Canada ALWAYS issues advisories and/or outright bans when imported food tests unsafe.
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still going strong here.. we have fish farms tho

ie, we were fucked anyway
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That's me, been over 5 years now, no meat or fish
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Update on Basa -- I see that it is actually a freshwater fish, raised in and exported mainly from fish farms in SE Asia.

I think I'm good on the Japan radiation thing.
Sounds a lot safer
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That's me, been over 5 years now, no meat or fish
no wonder you seem angry. owning animals kind of makes me feel guilty when i eat animals. so i only have a burger or steak once a week if that.
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no wonder you seem angry. owning animals kind of makes me feel guilty when i eat animals. so i only have a burger or steak once a week if that.
I used to love a proper beefburger, still would, enjoyed chicken kebabs too. As long as it didn't look too much like an animal I could eat it without feeling guilty.
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Sorry, carnivore for life here.
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I guess it also depends how close they fish to Japan.
Or where the fish migrate to and from http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...e-highway.html
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Japanese have developed a filtering system to clean the contaminated waters in and around fukushima, including the waste waters.

Two problems remain.
1. Yakuza subcontractors. If you need to ask why...

2. http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/radionuclides/tritium.html
System has not been developed yet to clean and isolate tritium yet.

I live in Tokyo. I would rather be in Tokyo when TSHTF than anyplace else. We actually have a place in the mountains as well. That's where you can find me WTSHTF.

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Update on Basa -- I see that it is actually a freshwater fish, raised in and exported mainly from fish farms in SE Asia.

I think I'm good on the Japan radiation thing.
But doesn't freshwater start off as evaporated ocean water?
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I'll be in the room nextdoor to this Nuclear Power expert

"Nuclear power expert, Arnold Gundersen, told RT that the health risks are great and continue to increase every year.

?Somewhere between 100,000 to 1,000,000 [people] will over the next thirty years get cancer from this accident...1,000 additional cancers a year from eating fish from the Pacific.?

http://rt.com/news/fukushima-politic...r-emperor-033/
Using Russia Today does nothing to support your position.
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are you starting to glow yet? kind of kool!






The glow is likely from the Jack Frost that I vaped a short time ago.





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regular or Nuka Cola Quantum
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Not eat meat or fish? What kind of madness is this? Meat might taste like murder, but murder tastes GOOOOD!
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http://www.snopes.com/photos/technology/fukushima.asp
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Or where the fish migrate to and from http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...e-highway.html
Thanks for that SplatterMaster, that radioactive tuna I puchased is going to the cats, they'll still have 8 lives left
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no wonder you seem angry. owning animals kind of makes me feel guilty when i eat animals. so i only have a burger or steak once a week if that.
If I wouldn't eat my dumb fat fluff ball of a cat, I don't see how to justify eating any other animal.
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If I wouldn't eat my dumb fat fluff ball of a cat, I don't see how to justify eating any other animal.
real cat or the kitty katt id luv to watch dat special skillz?
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Google.. " nuclear testing pacific "

[/B]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Proving_Grounds

All that's coming back to America is what you put in there yourselves.

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Japanese have developed a filtering system to clean the contaminated waters in and around fukushima, including the waste waters.

Two problems remain.
1. Yakuza subcontractors. If you need to ask why...

2. http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/radionuclides/tritium.html
System has not been developed yet to clean and isolate tritium yet.

I live in Tokyo. I would rather be in Tokyo when TSHTF than anyplace else. We actually have a place in the mountains as well. That's where you can find me WTSHTF.

You guys? You're in deep doodoo.
hasn't the Yakuza had a big impact into the recovery/relief efforts?

I heard they were organizing supplies for the 'right after', better than the government
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