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Old 05-15-2012, 09:09 PM   #51
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Old 05-15-2012, 09:15 PM   #52
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Here is a transcript of the 911 call.

This is what it says:

Zimmerman:

Yeah. You go in straight through the entrance and then you would go left. You go straight in, don?t turn and make a left.

He?s running. [2:08]

911 dispatcher:

He?s running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman:

Down toward the other entrance of the neighborhood. [2:14]

911 dispatcher:

OK, which entrance is that he?s headed towards?

Zimmerman:

The back entrance.

[It sounds like Zimmerman says under his breath, ?F-ing coons? at 2:22]

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911 dispatcher:

Are you following him? [2:24]

Zimmerman:

Yeah. [2:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK.

We don?t need you to do that. [2:26]

Zimmerman:

OK. [2:28]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]

Zimmerman:

George. He ran.



So Zimmerman tells the dispatcher twice that Trayvon ran. Sounds kine of like fleeing to me.

In the end it is worthless to argue this. I feel, based only on what I know now, that Zimmerman pursued this guy, confronted him and ended up shooting him.

You think he is a hero.

I doubt we will change each other's minds so we might as well just call it good wait until the case plays out. Once all the evidence is public maybe I will change my mind.
Big time hero! Followed specious character who fit the profile of neighborhood burglar despite the fact he was out-sized.
I would've moved out from that area long time ago but this guy thought he could make difference and make it better for everyone else. Hats off to true American hero!
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So... he's dead... but he won?

Good for him.


... i guess.
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stop listening to the news and listen to the facts, they never told him not to follow, and it was not a cop, it was a 911 dispatcher. they said "we do not need you to do that"
what was actually said matters. The 911 dispatcher cannot tell him what to do. He was part of neighborhood watch and was following the guy and telling 911 what was going on. He was doing his job as neighborhood watch. if the guy broke into a house, he would have been able to witness it and report it.

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Here is a transcript of the 911 call.

This is what it says:

Zimmerman:

Yeah. You go in straight through the entrance and then you would go left. You go straight in, don?t turn and make a left.

He?s running. [2:08]

911 dispatcher:

He?s running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman:

Down toward the other entrance of the neighborhood. [2:14]

911 dispatcher:

OK, which entrance is that he?s headed towards?

Zimmerman:

The back entrance.

[It sounds like Zimmerman says under his breath, ?F-ing coons? at 2:22]

NOTE:
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911 dispatcher:

Are you following him? [2:24]

Zimmerman:

Yeah. [2:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK.

We don?t need you to do that. [2:26]

Zimmerman:

OK. [2:28]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]

Zimmerman:

George. He ran.



So Zimmerman tells the dispatcher twice that Trayvon ran. Sounds kine of like fleeing to me.

In the end it is worthless to argue this. I feel, based only on what I know now, that Zimmerman pursued this guy, confronted him and ended up shooting him.

You think he is a hero.

I doubt we will change each other's minds so we might as well just call it good wait until the case plays out. Once all the evidence is public maybe I will change my mind.
If the kid was running from Zimmerman, he's got no defense. Period.
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With what is known so far, which do you think would have a better outcome for Zimmerman:

A jury of his peers or letting a judge decide?
My policy is if I am innocent, I go with a judge. If I was guilty I would go ahead and let a jury decide.

I don't know why so many still think that Zimmerman was told to back off; he wasn't. People have been fired for rigging the news; did you not read/hear that?

Zimmerman seems to have been railroaded by the media.
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stop listening to the news and listen to the facts, they never told him not to follow, and it was not a cop, it was a 911 dispatcher. they said "we do not need you to do that"
what was actually said matters. The 911 dispatcher cannot tell him what to do. He was part of neighborhood watch and was following the guy and telling 911 what was going on. He was doing his job as neighborhood watch. if the guy broke into a house, he would have been able to witness it and report it.
Ive actually been in neighborhood watches. You are told to do nothing and call the police. If the police say it once they say 100 x times.
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Ive actually been in neighborhood watches. You are told to do nothing and call the police. If the police say it once they say 100 x times.
my neighbor was captain many years before he died. he never got out of hand with guns.
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The outcry in this incident was that there was deemed to be no need to investigate further, when there really really seemed to be a need to investigate further.

Now that that is happening, I feel better. I hope there are NO more leaks to media, and that it comes to trial quickly. They already need to move the trial to Pluto to avoid a tainted jury pool.
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Ive actually been in neighborhood watches. You are told to do nothing and call the police. If the police say it once they say 100 x times.
I to have served in a neighborhood watch and we were instructed not to confront but to follow any strange person in the neighborhood until they left the neighborhood and not to confront but to call 911 if we witnessed an actual crime being committed or considered the person's actions to be questionable/suspicious. I carried a pistol but not all members of the neighborhood watch carried but most...if not all...had a shotgun in the car when they patrolled.

For Zimmerman to have followed Trayvon would have been his duty as a member of the neighborhood watch. To confront Trayvon would probably not be considered as being his duty as a member of the neighbor hood watch...but according to Zimmerman's father he did not intentionally confront Trayvon.

Zimmerman's father has stated that his son told him that he had lost track of Trayvon and was returning to his vehicle when he encountered Trayvon again and at that point words were exchanged and Trayvon punched him...breaking his nose and knocking him down...and then Trayvon started banging his head against the ground...which caused two seperate lacerations to his head and it was during this scuffle that Zimmerman shot Trayvon.

It has been reported that witnesses saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman and reported that Zimmerman was yelling for help.
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I to have served in a neighborhood watch and we were instructed not to confront but to follow any strange person in the neighborhood until they left the neighborhood and not to confront but to call 911 if we witnessed an actual crime being committed or considered the person's actions to be questionable/suspicious.

For Zimmerman to have followed Treyvon would have been his duty as a member of the neighborhood watch. To confront Treyvon would probably not be considered as being his duty as a member of the neighbor hood watch...but according to Zimmerman's father he did not intentionally confront Treyvon.

Zimmerman's father has stated that his son told him that he had lost track of Treyvon and was returning to his vehicle when he encountered Treyvon again and at that point words were exchanged and Treyvon punched him...breaking his nose and knocking him down...and then Treyvon started banging his head against the ground...which caused two seperate lacerations to his head and it was during this scuffle that Zimmerman shot Treyvon.

It has been reported that witnesses saw Treyvon on top of Zimmerman and reported that Zimmerman was yelling for help.
well in atlanta we were told just call the police. To follow someone its asking for someone to be put in possible harms way. And if the police told you to do that ,they could be held liable. if god forbid you were hurt or killed.
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It's always preferrable to lose some merchandise than to lose a life. Besides which, the guy was going to the house he was staying in on the designated sidewalk. Hardly up to no good until it turned ugly. A macro version of the Heisenberg principle of observation?
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The outcry in this incident was that there was deemed to be no need to investigate further, when there really really seemed to be a need to investigate further.

Now that that is happening, I feel better. I hope there are NO more leaks to media, and that it comes to trial quickly. They already need to move the trial to Pluto to avoid a tainted jury pool.
yeah well people like reality shows. im surprised the first 48 didnt run it
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well in atlanta we were told just call the police. To follow someone its asking for someone to be put in possible harms way. And if the police told you to do that ,they could be held liable. if god forbid you were hurt or killed.
Oh please. You are 400lbs piece of lard. You wouldn't be able to walk a fucking block without having a heart attack.
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NEWSFLASH - If you are being followed and all you have is a box of skittles on you. Call 911 and say you are being followed and scared as hell. No matter your race.

People have ghetto outcomes cause they act ghetto. Learn to act like a normal human being. Trayvon apparently chose to go ghetto and it cost him his life.

Ask yourself quick - First Impulse, what would you do.

Mine is to try and get away, to flee, 2nd option call 911. Third, fight like a caged animal.
Somehow many youth skip to 3. Mistake.
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NEWSFLASH - If you are being followed and all you have is a box of skittles on you. Call 911 and say you are being followed and scared as hell. No matter your race.

People have ghetto outcomes cause they act ghetto. Learn to act like a normal human being. Trayvon apparently chose to go ghetto and it cost him his life.

Ask yourself quick - First Impulse, what would you do.

Mine is to try and get away, to flee, 2nd option call 911. Third, fight like a caged animal.
Somehow many youth skip to 3. Mistake.
Like caged animal? He wasn't caged at all. Zimmerman was 5 inches shorter and sure didn't look like creepy stalker. He was a watch captain for fucks sake. Probably asked few simple questions about who the kid was and if he lived there and got jumped because of that. "No limit nigga" had it coming sooner or later
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Like caged animal? He wasn't caged at all. Zimmerman was 5 inches shorter and sure didn't look like creepy stalker. He was a watch captain for fucks sake. Probably asked few simple questions about who the kid was and if he lived there and got jumped because of that. "No limit nigga" had it coming sooner or later
im just waiting for your racist bubble to pop wonder if you will change colors like the hulk. instead of green you will have a yellow line down your back
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im just waiting for your racist bubble to pop wonder if you will change colors like the hulk. instead of green you will have a yellow line down your back
Huh? You high homie?
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Huh? You high homie?
nope this is day to day for you.
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In my local news yesterday was a dude sentanced for the shooting death of a toddler. He admitted he shot the gun, but he was trying to kill the rival gang member in the minivan. So he apologized for killing the toddler, saying he's no angel but he's not the monster people think he is..

Okee dokee. He got 40 years. Not sure why not life, guess because he has bad aim.
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In my local news yesterday was a dude sentanced for the shooting death of a toddler. He admitted he shot the gun, but he was trying to kill the rival gang member in the minivan. So he apologized for killing the toddler, saying he's no angel but he's not the monster people think he is..

Okee dokee. He got 40 years. Not sure why not life, guess because he has bad aim.
thats crazy but it happens. maybe the guy shot at him some point in time earlier. there was a guy in new york gangster a guy walked up and shot him dead while he was holding his baby.
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"No limit nigga" had it coming sooner or later
With a name like "Trayvon" he was either going to end up in jail or dead in the streets. It's all his mammy's fault.
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Just because he has the injuries doesn't automatically make him innocent. If he attacked that kid and the kid tried to defend himself only to get shot, Zimmerman is still guilty.

I still think, regardless of the injuries, he will be found guilty. He chose to pursue the kid and press the issue. Had he got back in his car and waited for the police none of this would have happened. He chose to make a move and ended up killing an unarmed person. That's normally not good for you.
That's my take on it. Does Zimmerman look like a guy that would be scared of his life in a fight with a 17 year old?





Zimmerman should of waited and let the police do their job.
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I think his lawyers are reading our posts. Stop leaking to the media! Try the case on its merits or get an asterick in the record books. Yes, the media outlets could simply refuse to run the story, but come on.

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The gunshot wound entrance was from a bullet fired from "intermediate range," or two to four inches, "a soot ring abrasion and a two-inch by two-inch area of stippling" on his body.

Sounds like Martin must have been on top of Zimmerman.
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That's my take on it. Does Zimmerman look like a guy that would be scared of his life in a fight with a 17 year old?





Zimmerman should of waited and let the police do their job.
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bottom line how did that fat lard zimmerman catch no limit ni**a.
no limit n**a could have out ran him easilly. My theory is he gained enough ground & hid to ambush.
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bottom line how did that fat lard zimmerman catch no limit ni**a.
no limit n**a could have out ran him easilly. My theory is he gained enough ground & hid to ambush.
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Exactly. The guy that was running was a decoy steering Zimmerman, with the real Trayvon hiding behind a car until Zimmerman got close enough. They wanted to steal his gun, but the plan backfired (no pun intended). Nobody even cares about the other decoy guy, they just want to portray Zimmerman as a monster when all he was doing was harmlessly chasing niggas around with his gun in an area that has had a string of recent robberies. These niggas obviously wanted that gun, but the media has spun this story so much that nobody is paying attention to that.
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