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Old 05-18-2012, 04:17 AM   #51
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but the years and the hiding of footage and sidetracking made me look deeper and deeper...got to admit..it changed my life and how I view everything now
I know where you're coming from, once the trust is gone and one is aware that the government and media lie; everything has to be questioned and investigated from that point on.

The strangest thing for me was discovering how apathetic the average person is to finding out what's going on behind the curtains. Though I believe this is driven by fear, the fear of being knocked out of their safe and comfortable world paradigm.
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:40 AM   #52
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Funny how the same people that state that we should believe nothing that the media reports because it is manipulated by "higher powers" are the same people using an ABC News article and stating that the entire thing should now be considered facts.

Get your fucking stories straight
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Old 05-18-2012, 06:09 AM   #54
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Funny how the same people that state that we should believe nothing that the media reports because it is manipulated by "higher powers" are the same people using an ABC News article and stating that the entire thing should now be considered facts.

Get your fucking stories straight
Most pick up on Operation Northwoods from the alternative media, though when you quickly need a source for a post, you will often grab something from near the top in Google which states the same facts as the ones you picked up on in the alternative media.

I'm quite sure that Failed didn't learn about Operation Northwoods from ABC. It's quite likely that ABC have posted the story in an attempt to beat other articles (in Google) that link the story with 911
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Old 05-18-2012, 06:29 AM   #55
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You are free to believe whatever you choose to believe however flawed your thinking may be...and it is flawed...as proven in your post.
if you believe the opposite , then your thinking is just as flawed
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i love your little point about announced on the bbc.

yes, like the fucking bbc were in on the whole consipracy. Like those in charge of the operation would really tell a media outlet about their plans.

stop being such a fucking idiot.

please?
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Most pick up on Operation Northwoods from the alternative media, though when you quickly need a source for a post, you will often grab something from near the top in Google which states the same facts as the ones you picked up on in the alternative media.

I'm quite sure that Failed didn't learn about Operation Northwoods from ABC. It's quite likely that ABC have posted the story in an attempt to beat other articles (in Google) that link the story with 911
I actually used ABC as the source link so that it would be considered more trustworthy than some of the alternative sources. But, I suppose some aren't able to accept facts no matter what the source. What baffles me is that they are government documents, printed plans, signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and it's still not fact to some???
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Old 05-18-2012, 02:11 PM   #58
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I actually used ABC as the source link so that it would be considered more trustworthy than some of the alternative sources. But, I suppose some aren't able to accept facts no matter what the source. What baffles me is that they are government documents, printed plans, signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and it's still not fact to some???
Same as I do; you give the opposition sources that they trust. Like you say, if someone really wanted to find out more, they could do so and work out that these are legit documents
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Old 05-20-2012, 05:28 PM   #59
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i love your little point about announced on the bbc.

yes, like the fucking bbc were in on the whole consipracy. Like those in charge of the operation would really tell a media outlet about their plans.

stop being such a fucking idiot.

please?
If you still need me to explain this let me know, but I'm assuming you've had time to work it out for yourself and would delete your response if you could. We all make mistakes, so no worries
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i love your little point about announced on the bbc.

yes, like the fucking bbc were in on the whole consipracy. Like those in charge of the operation would really tell a media outlet about their plans.
I always found that comical when the truthers point to the BBC an say "They announced it before it happened". Really? So "they" told the BBC about it before hand?

That's funny.
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I can't imagine how difficult it must be for some of you to leave your house.
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Old 05-20-2012, 05:58 PM   #62
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I can't imagine how difficult it must be for some of you to leave your house.
It is those who believe in the terrorists who live in fear. Truthers are just pointing out the Truth, there's a crime that's taken place and the criminals need to be brought to justice

-- You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

-- You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack

-- You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane

-- You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack

--You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack

-- You are 87 times more likely to drown than die in a terrorist attack

-- You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack

--You are 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed than from a terrorist attack

--You are 9 times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit than die in a terrorist attack

--You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist

--You are 8 times more likely to die from accidental electrocution than from a terrorist attack

-- You are 6 times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:31 PM   #64
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I'm certain that conspiracy theorists brains are wired differently. Because I can not for-the-life-of-me imagine how the fuck they swallow this shit.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:36 PM   #65
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I always viewed the "No Planes" theory as being Divide and Conquer. It would be a huge risk for them to have tried this with no planes, given that there are so many tourists roaming the streets of New York with their camcorders. I can't see any advantage of them not using real planes, unless they weren't confident of them hitting. Still, I didn't see with my own eyes, so I'll need to continue researching this one.

The video does make a direct 'divide and conquer' statement in the final minute

I can see why it would be worth preparing fake footage in advance, in case anything went wrong on the day. Fake footage might exist that was created before 9/11, but personally I still believe strongly that planes hit the buildings
This is what you want to take a good look at:

http://www.disclose.tv/forum/dimitri...st-t21675.html

..after this, almost everything about 9/11 will make more sense.
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This is what you want to take a good look at:

http://www.disclose.tv/forum/dimitri...st-t21675.html

..after this, almost everything about 9/11 will make more sense.
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If you have not yet seen this, take a look.



Ace Baker provides the best and most thorough analysis proving that real planes did not hit the WTC. Yes, it's very difficult to believe that the various videos and photos showing planes hitting the WTC on 9/11 were all digitally manipulated, and that the various lie-witnesses lied about seeing planes, and that the mainstream media video feed was compromised, but the facts presented in this video leave no doubt that the videos showing planes crashing into the WTC are digital deceptions.
Any idea where else someone can find this clip, now that it has been removed from YouTube?
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Any idea where else someone can find this clip, now that it has been removed from YouTube?
No. PS. This is for morons
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Here's where the plan went wrong for Flight 93, meaning that WTC7 was left without a plane in it

Wikipedia - United Airlines Flight 93
"The aircraft was scheduled to depart at 08:00 and pushed back from gate A17 at 08:01.[26] It remained delayed on the ground and did not take off until 08:42 because of heavy airport congestion, just four minutes before American Airlines Flight 11 crashed into the North Tower of the World Trade Center.[27] The three other hijacked flights all departed within fifteen minutes of their scheduled times."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93
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This is what you want to take a good look at:

http://www.disclose.tv/forum/dimitri...st-t21675.html

..after this, almost everything about 9/11 will make more sense.
Thanks Dcat, I'll watch this in the next few days
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Its all explained here:

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You are clearly an advocate of the 'No Planes' theory

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Its all explained here:

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It is those who believe in the terrorists who live in fear. Truthers are just pointing out the Truth, there's a crime that's taken place and the criminals need to be brought to justice

-- You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

-- You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack

-- You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane

-- You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack

--You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack

-- You are 87 times more likely to drown than die in a terrorist attack

-- You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack

--You are 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed than from a terrorist attack

--You are 9 times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit than die in a terrorist attack

--You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist

--You are 8 times more likely to die from accidental electrocution than from a terrorist attack

-- You are 6 times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack
Oh, I'm not worried about me being killed by a terrorist. But that's not the point. That's like saying "Well, the odds of me being shot by a murderer are about zero, so we no longer need law enforcement".
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Oh, I'm not worried about me being killed by a terrorist. But that's not the point. That's like saying "Well, the odds of me being shot by a murderer are about zero, so we no longer need law enforcement".
JohnnyClips would say that.
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whoever thinks and believes all these conspiracys are mentally fucking stupid , just like yes signals
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whoever thinks and believes all these conspiracys are mentally fucking stupid , just like yes signals
You're right, to believe ALL Conspiracies are legit is just as dumb as to believe that NO Conspiracies are legit, it would be an over-simplification; each Conspiracy needs to be investigated individually, one will then discover that some are genuine while others are a joke.
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You're right, to believe ALL Conspiracies are legit is just as dumb as to believe that NO Conspiracies are legit, it would be an over-simplification; each Conspiracy needs to be investigated individually, one will then discover that some are genuine while others are a joke.
I'm not saying some don't need to be investigated further I like that show with that govenor conspiracy theory , had a show on many interesting topics but for anyone to think that 9/11 was a conspiracy it's just stupid how many fucking years has it been to prove that it was or wasn't a conspiracy.
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I'm not saying some don't need to be investigated further I like that show with that govenor conspiracy theory , had a show on many interesting topics but for anyone to think that 9/11 was a conspiracy it's just stupid how many fucking years has it been to prove that it was or wasn't a conspiracy.
I haven't seen that show before

As for 911, who are we relying on to tell us that the conspiracy has been 'proved' or 'disproved'? TV, the US Government, United Nations, other or ourselves?
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so many banned names in here.. there's at least one or two left though..
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Banned Score so far in this thread

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