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Old 05-31-2012, 07:37 AM   #1
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Facebook is now down to $27..

https://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:FB

Wall Street shouldn't allow first place an IPO with such ridiculous evaluation.
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Facebook continues its freefall

27.17 now

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Is anyone actually surprised about that?
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Old 05-31-2012, 07:43 AM   #4
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And it's still overpriced..
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Anybody think it could hit $10 or less by the end of the year?
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I think it will go down to $17-19 within the next month or two.

$10 or less by the end of the year? I hope not, a lot of folks will be losing their life savings...
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Anybody think it could hit $10 or less by the end of the year?
If it does the real investors will be happy and will start buying, this is all a ploy
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I am the only one that's catching hisself to have a big smile on his face while reading/knowing the current facebook fiasco ?

Yeah I'd name myself relative anti fb
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I think it will go down to $17-19 within the next month or two.
I agree, the market is in the early stage of taking a dump and FaceBook is not where money is going to go for safety!
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I've read that Facebook is one of the worst IPO's ever. You could argue that it's actually one of the most successful. The ENTIRE purpose of an IPO is to raise as much money as possible and Facebook got the TOP of their range.
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Why shouldn't they allow it?
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If it does the real investors will be happy and will start buying, this is all a ploy
FINALLY...someone who actually is paying attention!



Zuckerberg made $16 BILLION from this IPO. Real investors who got in early are not worried as this stock inevitably will go way past its original price.

It is projected that it should bottom out around 20 (or thereabouts), level out and then climb rapidly after Zuckerberg releases his partnership plans for the new FB phone that will have NFC and FB Payments built in. (Not to mention that as an ad-supplemented device it will be given away practically for free)

The FB app also is being redeveloped and will include FB Payments for NFC capable devices such as the Samsung Galaxy III (Android) and the iPhone 5 (coming around Oct).

And that's just the tip of the iceberg...

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can you merge all the bs topics into one big bs topic as well then? Saves me a lot of time
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Zuck is only worth $13.73B now! So poor!

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FINALLY...someone who actually is paying attention!



Zuckerberg made $16 BILLION from this IPO. Real investors who got in early are not worried as this stock inevitably will go way past its original price.

It is projected that it should bottom out around 20 (or thereabouts), level out and then climb rapidly after Zuckerberg releases his partnership plans for the new FB phone that will have NFC and FB Payments built in. (Not to mention that as an ad-supplemented device it will be given away practically for free)

The FB app also is being redeveloped and will include FB Payments for NFC capable devices such as the Samsung Galaxy III (Android) and the iPhone 5 (coming around Oct).

And that's just the tip of the iceberg...

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those fuckers at FB should fix their search function. its really unuseful, if you need to find one someone who you dont know much....i could easily find that person just by age and city, but such search isnt allowed.
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I've read that Facebook is one of the worst IPO's ever. You could argue that it's actually one of the most successful. The ENTIRE purpose of an IPO is to raise as much money as possible and Facebook got the TOP of their range.
That and usually bankers make a lot of money on IPOs. Facebook made sure the investment banks only got their fees for putting the deal together. Facebook raised maximum cash while leaving the least on the table.
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Why shouldn't they allow it?
Agreed.

an why should Amazon have a P/E over 100?

the market seems to accept all kinds of valuations.

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FINALLY...someone who actually is paying attention!



Zuckerberg made $16 BILLION from this IPO. Real investors who got in early are not worried as this stock inevitably will go way past its original price.

It is projected that it should bottom out around 20 (or thereabouts), level out and then climb rapidly after Zuckerberg releases his partnership plans for the new FB phone that will have NFC and FB Payments built in. (Not to mention that as an ad-supplemented device it will be given away practically for free)

The FB app also is being redeveloped and will include FB Payments for NFC capable devices such as the Samsung Galaxy III (Android) and the iPhone 5 (coming around Oct).

And that's just the tip of the iceberg...

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Zuckerberg made $16 BILLION from this IPO. Real investors who got in early are not worried as this stock inevitably will go way past its original price.

It is projected that it should bottom out around 20 (or thereabouts), level out and then climb rapidly after Zuckerberg releases his partnership plans for the new FB phone that will have NFC and FB Payments built in. (Not to mention that as an ad-supplemented device it will be given away practically for free)

The FB app also is being redeveloped and will include FB Payments for NFC capable devices such as the Samsung Galaxy III (Android) and the iPhone 5 (coming around Oct).

And that's just the tip of the iceberg...


Worst plan ever.

They know nothing about hardware
They know nothing about phones
They cant support it.

Shares will find 9.50 10.00 dollar region soon.
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Worst plan ever.

They know nothing about hardware
They know nothing about phones
They cant support it.

Shares will find 9.50 10.00 dollar region soon.
I agree on the phone thing but close to $10? I doubt it
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why would they need to know about phone hardware???

wouldnt they just license the latest Windows 8 Mobile phones?

like any other phone carrier- Sprint, Telefonica, etc

i wouldnt def be a buyer at $10- plenty they can launch off that platform
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$10 or less by the end of the year? I hope not, a lot of folks will be losing their life savings...
The biggest losers are those who gambled on an already retarded valuation increasing to even more retarded leveks in the short term.

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I think their best bet to monetize is to become a payment gateway and compete with paypal.

They seem to not be doing so well as an ad platform. All they need to drive their stock price up is some solid revenue, but their users are not geared to paying for anything.
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Worst plan ever.

They know nothing about hardware
They know nothing about phones
They cant support it.

Shares will find 9.50 10.00 dollar region soon.
They have billions in cash and more than 3,000 employees. They can figure anything they want out. At one point Google knew nothing about ads, email, mapping, phones or anything but search. At one point Apple knew nothing but computers.
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People focus on Zuck but he doesn't give himself too much credit. He gives a lot of credit to Sheryl Sandberg, who is largely responsible for what Facebook is today. Keep in mind this is the same Sheryl Sandberg that was Vice President of Global Online Sales and Operations at Google prior to her arrival at Facebook in 2008.

She was a driving force behind making Google what it is today and now she will be the driving force behind where Facebook goes in the future.

Facebook has some amazing talent on board.
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Worst plan ever.

They know nothing about hardware
They know nothing about phones
They cant support it.

Shares will find 9.50 10.00 dollar region soon.
They don't need to know anything about hardware.
They dont need to know anything about phones.
They don't need to support it.

But FB does have the capabilities to get to know what they need to know and how to support a phone if they absolutely have to.

And no, the shares will NOT ever hit below $19. Facebook would have to make an epic privacy gaffe or their server farms would have to get massively hacked for something like that to happen.

Here's my post from another Facebook bashing thread to "enlighten" those (specifically about the FB phone) who may not have the vision or patience to simply sit back for a sec and wonder why exactly Facebook got so huge, so fast.

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Two of the major possible options:

1. FB + RIM = Facebook teams up with or buys RIM to inject new life into their phone line, which has been weak for the past 3 years. The ex-Apple designers that FB hired only have to come up with a decent hardware solution as QNX is a solid OS with huge potential.

Established channels of distribution/mobile provision for the phones plus the advantage of the secure BB platform would make this the best option. Add to that the potential licensing of the BB Platform to Android phone developers and Apple and there would be a near instantaneous resurgence of RIM's market share.

2. FB + Microsoft = Facebook and MS already are tied at the hip with Skype and Bing integration. Window Phones already have distribution channels set up, so a partnership in this regard makes sense. Although it must be said that the RIM partnership would be stronger. Windows phones aren't being forecast to have a strong demand this year given that the iphone 5 may be coming out in October.

The critics who are pushing that this is the end of FB aren't thinking analytically and are forecasting a worst-case scenario of FB trying to do it all by themselves. Zuckerberg only got $16 Billion out of the IPO, so to create a new phone line from scratch would be idiotic. Zuckerberg didn't get this far by not thinking carefully and thoroughly about his business steps.

FB hatred has blinded quite a few pundits and it's showing.
Both of those possibilities offer FB the freedom to not have to worry about having to come up with a phone manufacturing company from scratch.

Guess what though, if they decide not to release a phone at all, that's okay as well. Although their ongoing mission to put FB as an embedded part of electronic components everywhere will be severely stunted temporarily.

It's hilarious to see the reactions here, when on Wall Street (in certain circles) they anticipated this and aren't worried at all.

I thought that adult stayed on the cutting edge, but here some can't even recognize genius when it's right in front of them. On forums like this I see many gripes about FB and the portions of it that involve teenagers and families. C'mon, that's THEIR world in FB.

In other words, when you as an adult join FB, the experience is what YOU make it. If you have idiot friends or weird family members who post idiotic and/or useless stuff, then you have complete control to unfriend, avoid and even block that person altogether.

Anyway, I can only laugh.
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there are girls in the DR that do not own computers, nor a cell phone, and share a room with a 1/2 dozen others that literally has no floors, yet they have facebook and use it often. its a tool for them to project a better self image of themself hence theyre always at my spot wanting to take "faebooh" (how they pronounce facebook) pics. they are not, will not, and are not capable of making payments for fb or anything on its network unless they start selling scratch off cards with airtime pin minutes like they do for cell service here
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they are not, will not, and are not capable of making payments for fb or anything on its network unless they start selling scratch off cards with airtime pin minutes like they do for cell service here
Aha!

So now imagine if FB was to go the RIM route that I discussed above, which would give them a secure platform to build NFC Payment options that integrate with any phone company's established billing system. Phone companies that offer BB services already have hardware and software that run the BB Platform. All it would take is a software update to implement micropayments over the secure BB Platform, automatically generating additional revenue for FB AND the phone company.

Guess how huge that would be in developing nations where BB is just beginning to see the potential of what their platform can do for such countries, but RIM (presently) doesn't have the money or vision to implement the concept.

FB could step in quite easily and make a sizable dent in present micropayment services.

FB has to break out into the money transfer/payment industry in a huge way to more forward. A phone system that integrates with established billing though the phone company is the easiest and most ubiquitous way because EVERYBODY, even poor people have a phone.

(Further proof: You live in the DR. Right next door, look at how much money Digicel is now making in Haiti, one of the poorest places in the region!)
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