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johnnyloadproductions · 06-01-2012, 02:25 PM

I was wondering how you deal with structuring websites now if someone just happens to have JavaScript turned off.
I know people used flash fallback for instances where HTML5 wasn't supported. Do you use some kind of CSS fallback?
This is so the structure of the page doesn't fall apart in some instances.
HTML5 depends on JavaScript for some animations but if it's not enabled do you just do some kind of CSS or static image fallback, you probably do.

Cut to the chase... What kind of code do you use for this?

Harmon · 06-01-2012, 02:29 PM

A better question is how to deal with people that have adblock on, like 50% of the net.

I will never tell.

raymor · 06-01-2012, 02:47 PM

Drop down menus, rollovers, and all of the stuff Javascript was used for in 1998 can and should be done with CSS today.

For a web page, as opposed to an application such as Google docs, the page elements should be in HTML and presentation in CSS.

That said, most people have some version of emacscript / javascript / jscript enabled. It's only needed for apps like Google docs, though, not for viewing pages, and can safely be used for supplementary functionality that isn't essential to the page.

ottopottomouse · 06-01-2012, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

A better question is how to deal with people that have adblock on, like 50% of the net.

I will never tell.

Good thing about adblock is the users are so used to not being flooded with ads that when you do set pages up with ads that are adblock proof they notice them with curiosity

Stephen · 06-01-2012, 04:04 PM

I'll venture that most surfers that are savvy enough to turn off their JavaScript also fall into the "Only idiots PAY for porn!" category, so take this into consideration when coming up with a redirect plan.

As a fact-check, look at your GA reports on members area traffic: what percentage of those paying customers have JS disabled? Sure, some may not have been able to join because of that fact (does your join page work with JS disabled?), but the point remains.

06-01-2012, 02:25 PM	#1
johnnyloadproductions Account Shutdown Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Gone Posts: 3,611	How do you deal with users that have JavaScript turned off or is it not much of a concern. I was wondering how you deal with structuring websites now if someone just happens to have JavaScript turned off. I know people used flash fallback for instances where HTML5 wasn't supported. Do you use some kind of CSS fallback? This is so the structure of the page doesn't fall apart in some instances. HTML5 depends on JavaScript for some animations but if it's not enabled do you just do some kind of CSS or static image fallback, you probably do. Cut to the chase... What kind of code do you use for this?

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Harmon ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ) Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 20,000	A better question is how to deal with people that have adblock on, like 50% of the net. I will never tell. __________________ [email protected]

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raymor Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,745	Drop down menus, rollovers, and all of the stuff Javascript was used for in 1998 can and should be done with CSS today. For a web page, as opposed to an application such as Google docs, the page elements should be in HTML and presentation in CSS. That said, most people have some version of emacscript / javascript / jscript enabled. It's only needed for apps like Google docs, though, not for viewing pages, and can safely be used for supplementary functionality that isn't essential to the page. __________________ For historical display only. This information is not current: support@bettercgi.com ICQ 7208627 Strongbox - The next generation in site security Throttlebox - The next generation in bandwidth control Clonebox - Backup and disaster recovery on steroids

06-01-2012, 04:04 PM	#5
Stephen Consigliere Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,771	I'll venture that most surfers that are savvy enough to turn off their JavaScript also fall into the "Only idiots PAY for porn!" category, so take this into consideration when coming up with a redirect plan. As a fact-check, look at your GA reports on members area traffic: what percentage of those paying customers have JS disabled? Sure, some may not have been able to join because of that fact (does your join page work with JS disabled?), but the point remains.