IP address used to sue people.

[Paul Markham]

Seems it can be done.


IP address used to sue people.

She took her case to the High Court in London where an order was granted last week compelling Facebook to reveal the IP addresses and other information of the people who had abused her.

Let the cat loose, the pigeons are waiting.

[lucas131]

thanks god here is czech republic

[AllAboutCams]

how do thye prove who was using the pc at that time

[lucas131]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

how do thye prove who was using the pc at that time

its not needed, just sue someone

[Sabby]

My left toe nail hurts.


Sabby

[Darkcrni]

So what if someone is using open wireless network via laptop.....how do you track them then?

[VenusBlogger]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

how do thye prove who was using the pc at that time

I will go further..

considering they can prove that your dynamic IP was used at that time and the IP came from your location, how can they prove someone else didn't access your WIFI router at that time and used your connection to do what they did?...

And you can go even further, in terms of legal defense, its 100% possible to prove that someone is not guilty...

[Sabby]

Originally Posted by Darkcrni

So what if someone is using open wireless network via laptop.....how do you track them then?

I dunno... but I think its infected now... I cant even show it,,, terrible.


Sabby

[anexsia]

Originally Posted by Sabby

I dunno... but I think its infected now... I cant even show it,,, terrible.


Sabby

Ouch that really sucks, hopefully it's not infected.

[DVTimes]

Just to point a few things out.

I am not sure she is going to sue but rather prosecute. In the UK we have an old law thaqt dates back to when phones were switch board operated. The law was brought in to stop people abusing the staff when they called. Odly this old law has been used with the internet. Also UK law has some broadcasting laws that stop you harrasing people. In recent years police have prosecuted a few people for what they have posted on facebook.

In this case its not just isp's its full accounts. the isp's are probabely irrelevent. a lot of people on facebook sign up using there real name and email address. thus its not easy to say its not you when its your details.

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This is a new trend. not new in the sence that people have been abusive for years on the net. but its becase facebook and twitter are now used by new people who are not net nerds. while for you and i, we would probably not take any notice. for the new people who are using the service they are taking it personaly. many uk celebs are getting upset by comments.

basicly you can imagine a 40 year old houswife, joins facebook and sudenly gets abuse.

[DVTimes]

Just to make it clear. she is getting the full info on the person, the isp in this case is just part of it, but probably irrelivent (after all they probably log into facebook on a mobile phone/work/home pc/internet cafe/hotel.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Seems it can be done.


IP address used to sue people.

Did you even read past the headline?

What has happened is that a woman was being systematically abused online, and she privately went to the high court who ordered that Facebook must disclose the IP and personal details of the people who were abusing her online.

That's *all* that has happened.

She then *intends* to sue them privately. It's not happened, it won't happen, and she won't win because an IP address is not evidence. As you keep being told. And as judges here and in the US have ruled.

2/10 for effort. Your troll game is getting weaker.

[candyflip]

Anyone can sue. Doesn't mean you're gonna win or are even in the right to begin with.

[raymor]

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger

I will go further..

considering they can prove that your dynamic IP was used at that time and the IP came from your location, how can they prove someone else didn't access your WIFI router at that time and used your connection to do what they did?...

And you can go even further, in terms of legal defense, its 100% possible to prove that someone is not guilty...

Just because someone's shoe (or bloody glove) was left at the crime scene doesn't BY ITSELF prove they committed the crime either, it's one piece of evidence. Very, very rarely does a case rest entirely on only one piece of evidence, even now that we have DNA technology and certainly not before DNA.

Perhaps the IP was assigned to her ex-husband. Given that information, an investigator can check into it and perhaps they find that the ex-husband was talking shit about her offline the day. They world then compare the spelling and grammar mistakes in the posts to things the ex-husband wrote. They can drive by the house and check that his wifi isn't open.

Taking it all together, which is most likely - a) the angry ex-husband did make the post or b) some random person went into the ex-husband's house, used his IP to harass his ex, and overused semi-colons just like he does, and misspelled "whoor" just like does? That would be up to a jury to decide.

[DBS.US]

My city has free wifi http://wifihermosabeach.com/

[DamianJ]

Stop teasing Paul, he just doesn't understand about how courts need evidence and proof. No reason to mock him. You bullies.

[SpicyM]

If you go to an internet cafe with free wifi connection how are they going to track you? Even if the cafe has security cams installed, there is no evidence which notebook was using the dynamic IP at the time. You would have to be the only person with notebook sitting there at the time to get accused, right?

[DBS.US]

Read, Learn, http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com/

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

If you go to an internet cafe with free wifi connection how are they going to track you? Even if the cafe has security cams installed, there is no evidence which notebook was using the dynamic IP at the time. You would have to be the only person with notebook sitting there at the time to get accused, right?

Oh no, the person that pays the bill for the connection would get accused.

This is what Paul just doesn't get.

Proof, it's a pesky little thing...

[Paul Markham]

I would be a poorer man today if not for Damian bumping my threads. LOL

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I would be a poorer man today if not for Damian bumping my threads. LOL

You act like you got one over on him by him replying to people in your thread.. christ get over yourself old man. You can't even keep YOUR OWN threads on topic. Everyone in this thread has posted something on topic and here you come with this "thx for bumpin mah threadz trollz LULZ!!!".

Troll of the century.

[raymor]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

If you go to an internet cafe with free wifi connection how are they going to track you? Even if the cafe has security cams installed, there is no evidence which notebook was using the dynamic IP at the time. You would have to be the only person with notebook sitting there at the time to get accused, right?

99% of the time, the thieves aren't at an internet cafe. Let's say they were, though. In some of these cases, the same people have come back twenty times or more, sometimes getting $1 trials and ripping the site, sometimes buying a full membership, ripping, then charging back, sometimes using stolen passwords. From the CC transactions and the associated emails the plaintiff knows who these people are. When they ban the person's home IP and the next day there is the same kind of activity from a cafe a block away from the person's house, the jury can connect the dots.

In addition, the site owner might email the known crook, trolling them about it. When the crook replies "Fuck you. You can't stop me. I just posted eight more of your videos this morning", that pretty much makes the case.