Which third party biller has the cleanest hands? - GoFuckYourself.com

topnotch, standup guy · 06-12-2012, 09:04 AM

Okay, we've all read the threads about CCBill's new found affection for file lockers.

So... the question is, which third party billers have not and are not doing the same?

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Harmon · 06-12-2012, 09:23 AM

Your mom.

lucas131 · 06-12-2012, 09:24 AM

epassporte

DWB · 06-12-2012, 09:29 AM

I will give credit where credit is due. I've had my differences with Epoch, but they don't play around with piracy or questionable content. At least not that I'm aware of.

MaDalton · 06-12-2012, 09:31 AM

i work with www.paysite-cash.biz for my shop since 2006 and havent found them on questionable sites yet

ninavain · 06-12-2012, 09:36 AM

when dealing with money..all hands get dirty at some point

NewNick · 06-12-2012, 09:41 AM

Guys be serious - no one pays for paysite memberships anymore.

What are CCbill supposed to do ?

Do their managers and executives just ignore the fact that their revenues are plummeting.

The unpalitable truth is that the game has moved on and they have to go where the money is.

A fully regulated internet that can police the piracy problems is a long way off. In the meantime its every man for himself and that includes billers.

DWB · 06-12-2012, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

Guys be serious - no one pays for paysite memberships anymore.

What are CCbill supposed to do ?

Do their managers and executives just ignore the fact that their revenues are plummeting.

The unpalitable truth is that the game has moved on and they have to go where the money is.

A fully regulated internet that can police the piracy problems is a long way off. In the meantime its every man for himself and that includes billers.

Piracy aside, I don't think Visa and Master Card take too kindly to processing for child porn and best sex. That is going to be CCbill's undoing. Not piracy.

topnotch, standup guy · 06-13-2012, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain

when dealing with money..all hands get dirty at some point

This is true, but I want to know who's hands are the least dirty.

We've heard EPOCH and Paysite-cash mentioned thus far.

Any others?

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NewNick · 06-13-2012, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Piracy aside, I don't think Visa and Master Card take too kindly to processing for child porn and best sex. That is going to be CCbill's undoing. Not piracy.

Agreed - my comments were reserved for the file lockers before the recent postings regarding CP.

I also agree that CCbill are not immune to the hammer wealded by Visa/MC. They need to display a great deal more due diligence than they are atm.

I am starting to wonder what CCbill are charging the file lockers in terms of %. Have they found an industry that they can charge even more than they do in adult ?

I think we are seeing a realignment here. The paysite game is dead - so they have found a new cash cow.

Even higher risk than adult = even higher rates than adult.

Ron Bennett · 06-13-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

I think we are seeing a realignment here. The paysite game is dead - so they have found a new cash cow.

Even higher risk than adult = even higher rates than adult.

And that higher risk premium may adversely affect all clients using such a processor, even those who have nothing to do with filelockers and CP. Many CCBill clients presumably are happy with their service, unaware that trouble is potentially brewing that could hurt their business too...

Though this whole issue may be little more than a tempest in a teapot or the beginning of the end of CCBill - time will tell, but best to be prepared, regardless.

hdkiller · 06-13-2012, 10:34 AM

epoch, segpay

freecartoonporn · 06-13-2012, 11:34 AM

epoch.....

EukerVoorn · 06-13-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i work with www.paysite-cash.biz for my shop since 2006 and havent found them on questionable sites yet

I can confirm this. When I applied some sites to them some years ago they required me to proof that I owned the copyrights of the materials on my sites.

I can also recommend inet-cash.com . A piracy blog site used them for processing payments and it took only have quick phone call to make inet-cash close that account.

epitome · 06-13-2012, 02:17 PM

Epoch FTW

EukerVoorn · 06-13-2012, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick

Guys be serious - no one pays for paysite memberships anymore.

You're wrong. Some paysites are doing better than ever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick

What are CCbill supposed to do ?

1) Stick with the law
2) Stop harming the companies that helped them to grow big

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick

Do their managers and executives just ignore the fact that their revenues are plummeting.

The unpalitable truth is that the game has moved on and they have to go where the money is.

Pfffffff..... what planet are you from? It's ok to rob a bank because you should go where the money is? What about respect for the property of others?

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