FBI & DEA Warn That IPv6 May Be Too Damn Anonymous - GoFuckYourself.com

wehateporn · 06-19-2012, 04:47 PM

"IPv6 has been around for quite some time at this point, but as we get closer and closer to moving the internet over to the system, it appears that American and Canadian law enforcement has just noticed that it's not as easy to identify and track users, and they're frantically raising concerns."

"FBI, Drug Enforcement Administration, and Royal Canadian Mounted Police officials have told industry representatives that IPv6 traceability is necessary to identify people suspected of crimes. The FBI has even suggested that a new law may be necessary if the private sector doesn't do enough voluntarily."

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...nonymous.shtml

Barefootsies · 06-19-2012, 04:51 PM

I am sure that will come as a major disappointment to law enforcement.

One of the 'supposed' advantages of IPv6 was going to be the government's ability to track users and their devices. With the sheer number of IP's available, they were talking about being able to assign IP's to everything, including your refrigerator.

Frankly, I am happy to hear it. I am getting tired of big brother thinking they need to snoop on everything and everyone supposedly to protect my "liberty".

BFT3K · 06-19-2012, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

I am sure that will come as a major disappointment to law enforcement.

One of the 'supposed' advantages of IPv6 was going to be the government's ability to track users and their devices. With the sheer number of IP's available, they were talking about being able to assign IP's to everything, including your refrigerator.

Frankly, I am happy to hear it. I am getting tired of big brother thinking they need to snoop on everything and everyone supposedly to protect my "liberty".

Yeah, fuck them!

What happens in my refrigerator STAYS in my refrigerator!

...for a while anyway, and then if it goes bad, I have to throw it out, so it may not NECESSARILY STAY in my refrigerator forever, but you know... that's just common sense.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-19-2012, 05:48 PM

We hold the real power, not them and their fucking necessary division.

BFT3K · 06-19-2012, 06:01 PM

Mommy?...

Is that you, Mommy?!

TheSquealer · 06-19-2012, 06:04 PM

Yes, because everyone should be free to sell heroin, weapons and cp online... as well as organize and plan terrorist attacks without the fear of "big brother" watching over them...

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-19-2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Yes, because everyone should be free

You were onto something here for a brief rare instant.

Best-In-BC · 06-19-2012, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Yes, because everyone should be free to sell heroin, weapons and cp online... as well as organize and plan terrorist attacks without the fear of "big brother" watching over them...

Yeah, so we should just give into fear and be retardedly monitored then eh ?

6South · 06-19-2012, 09:23 PM

Typical government bullshit. Spend billions and literally decades moving to a new system only to freak out at the last second and decide it's risky, broken or a death trap.

We run this fucking country like a Delorean motors franchise...

DBS.US · 06-19-2012, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

"IPv6 has been around for quite some time at this point, but as we get closer and closer to moving the internet over to the system, it appears that American and Canadian law enforcement has just noticed that it's not as easy to identify and track users, and they're frantically raising concerns."

"FBI, Drug Enforcement Administration, and Royal Canadian Mounted Police officials have told industry representatives that IPv6 traceability is necessary to identify people suspected of crimes. The FBI has even suggested that a new law may be necessary if the private sector doesn't do enough voluntarily."

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...nonymous.shtml

Maybe Steve and Arcadia Data Security Consultants can help them out

Barry-xlovecam · 06-19-2012, 09:42 PM

RTFM

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CYF · 06-19-2012, 10:00 PM

instead of having a few computers behind one ip address, ipv6 will have the suspects computers behind a /64.

How is that so hard?

TheSquealer · 06-19-2012, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Best-In-BC

Yeah, so we should just give into fear and be retardedly monitored then eh ?

Give in to fear? What does prosecuting people who break the law have to do with "giving in to fear"? Saying you want everyone to have absolute privacy online is also saying "i want people to sell cp anonymously" etc etc.

The law is about striking a balance between individual freedoms and rights and being able to track down and prosecute those who break the law,... its not an all or nothing idea.

DWB · 06-20-2012, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Give in to fear? What does prosecuting people who break the law have to do with "giving in to fear"? Saying you want everyone to have absolute privacy online is also saying "i want people to sell cp anonymously" etc etc.

The law is about striking a balance between individual freedoms and rights and being able to track down and prosecute those who break the law,... its not an all or nothing idea.

Well said.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-20-2012, 01:27 AM

Quote:

The law is about striking a balance between individual freedoms and rights and being able to track down and prosecute those who break the law,... its not an all or nothing idea.

What laughable indoctrinated tripe. The law is about protecting fictitious power from real power. Your with us or against us privacy = cp promotion is void of reason, but more humor so thanks. Straight out of the land of freedom that has to be. Swing and a miss moron, have another placebo. DWB go insult your fucking adopted monarchs you free thinker you.

CurrentlySober · 06-20-2012, 02:18 AM

Makes sense... I wondered why a tube was so proud to tell me that they were IPv6...

First time I have noticed that logo anywhere

joshuawk · 06-20-2012, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dsadsa

What laughable indoctrinated tripe. The law is about protecting fictitious power from real power. Your with us or against us privacy = cp promotion is void of reason, but more humor so thanks. Straight out of the land of freedom that has to be. Swing and a miss moron, have another placebo. DWB go insult your fucking adopted monarchs you free thinker you.

you've had too much to think. might want to edit your post, continually, until it complies.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-20-2012, 02:56 AM

^ Adaptation is I domestication is you, postscript take your religious name and shut the fuck up.

Paul Markham · 06-20-2012, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Frankly, I am happy to hear it. I am getting tired of big brother thinking they need to snoop on everything and everyone supposedly to protect my "liberty".

Just to make selling porn easier.

Paul Markham · 06-20-2012, 05:03 AM

This fucking big brother attitude by the over bearing Government pisses me off all the time.

When I was selling porn in the UK they kept breaking down my doors.

When I'm speeding home after a night out drinking the fucking police had the fucking nerve to pull me over and breathalyse me.

And when I walk down the street there are fucking policeman there.

Worse still, when I go "shopping" there are cameras making sure everyone pays.

My credit card number selling business is going to take a real hit if they can find me.

I've already had a dozen letters about downloading videos that are free.

Even CCbill want to know who I am before they process for me.

Big brother is taking over and killing some of my free fun.

</sarcasm>

If you don't like being watched. Don't fucking do anything that requires you to be watched.

raymor · 06-20-2012, 05:17 AM

For those who didn't read the article, there is absolutely nothing in IPv6 technically that makes it any harder to track. The whole thing is based on the premise that with more IPs available, ISPs might not keep their whois current. WTF the number of IPs has to do with updating the whois for YOUR block of IPs it doesn't say.

raymor · 06-20-2012, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

Maybe Steve and Arcadia Data Security Consultants can help them out

Yes, Steve can tell them "it's called a subpoena, dumbasses".

- Jesus Christ - · 06-20-2012, 05:41 AM

Anonymous authorship isn't important at all... right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Papers

Freaky_Akula · 06-20-2012, 06:27 AM

This thread died when Paul Markham entered.

GetSCORECash · 06-20-2012, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Frankly, I am happy to hear it. I am getting tired of big brother thinking they need to snoop on everything and everyone supposedly to protect my "liberty".

Have you given any thought to Little Brother who is tracking you even when you think you are not being tracked.

PR_Glen · 06-20-2012, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Yes, because everyone should be free to sell heroin, weapons and cp online... as well as organize and plan terrorist attacks without the fear of "big brother" watching over them...

fuckin right.. they don't give a shit about your opinions on gwb or how often you visit tmz.. they only look at these things when laws are broken. The real ones.

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Originally Posted by Best-In-BC

Yeah, so we should just give into fear and be retardedly monitored then eh ?

have you been completely brainwashed from conspiracy boards or what? who's monitoring you? Nobody gives a shit about your dime bags and your deck that was built without the proper permits, they are after criminals..

There has never been a state of complete freedom, it has never existed, it never will exist and if it did we'd all be in trouble. People are just arrogant enough to think that what they do matters when most of the shit we do DOES NOT.

- Jesus Christ - · 06-20-2012, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

Nobody gives a shit about your dime bags

Funny, I have multiple friends who have spent time in jail over possession of personal use amounts of marijuana.

Here's an interesting link for you...

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/video...er-in-own-home

Freaky_Akula · 06-20-2012, 07:13 AM

Brainwashed sheep like PR_Glen don't realize that without probable cause the police has no right or reason to be violating your privacy.

Barry-xlovecam · 06-20-2012, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freaky_Akula

Brainwashed sheep like PR_Glen don't realize that without probable cause the police has no right or reason to be violating your privacy.

If the doctrine of reasonable suspicion was expanded beyond the Terry Stop ruling to include the Information Highway
AKA: the Internet

the factors of it being public with no rational of real or legally explicit expected privacy
you are tracked everywhere on the 'Net -- Cookies, SOL, server access logs, even G-A (the Google Machine)
With the Current US Supreme Court's balance of power -- it is not that remote of a possibility ...

The way it stands now you have no explicit right to Internet privacy only implied Forth Amendment rights ...

Freaky_Akula · 06-20-2012, 09:41 AM

IllTestYourGirls · 06-20-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

fuckin right.. they don't give a shit about your opinions on gwb or how often you visit tmz.. they only look at these things when laws are broken. The real ones.

Apparently you have not heard of the patriot act. They look at ALL your bank records ALL THE TIME. Even when no crimes are being committed.

Paul Markham · 06-20-2012, 11:33 PM

The police have to investigate and collect evidence on "people of interest" which is and always has to be determined by them. Otherwise it will make their job even harder to protect law abiding citizens.

If they find a site, email, comment, etc with any indication of criminal activity from piracy to 9/11 they have to have the ability and rights to investigate it.

Our freedom of speech, in fact our freedom. Is protected by the police.

Tamper with their abilities at your peril.

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