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blackmonsters · 06-21-2012, 10:48 AM

Months ago there was talk about HTML5 solving the issue with playing video on
mobile devices. I worked with it a little but found that the video needed to be in
3 different formats to implement it fully for all phones.

Anyone using it with success?

Anyone think that skipping HTML5 and instead providing a link to mp4 video is better?

NaughtyRob · 06-21-2012, 10:59 AM

What you said is correct, so far it still needs to be in three different formats when using HTML5 for mobile.

LouiseLloyd · 06-21-2012, 10:59 AM

I just use an mp4 with Videojs.com and not come across anything that it won't play on.

fris · 06-21-2012, 11:57 AM

and remmeber the order you put the html5 videos in is important, had a few clients who were doing it any order at random

Tijuana_Tom · 06-21-2012, 12:03 PM

http://blog.zencoder.com/2010/10/06/...r-html5-video/

http://blog.zencoder.com/2010/09/30/...or-mobile-use/

Some good reads..

Edit: I'd read this also http://www.overdigital.com/2010/05/0...4-demystified/

blackmonsters · 06-21-2012, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris

and remmeber the order you put the html5 videos in is important, had a few clients who were doing it any order at random

I don't see using it as realistic for me.

I have a limited amount of server space I can afford and I'm trying to compete with
sites with tons of content. To need 3x as much space is not going to work out for me.

vdbucks · 06-21-2012, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Months ago there was talk about HTML5 solving the issue with playing video on
mobile devices. I worked with it a little but found that the video needed to be in
3 different formats to implement it fully for all phones.

Anyone using it with success?

Anyone think that skipping HTML5 and instead providing a link to mp4 video is better?

I prefer linking to the mp4 directly because I prefer to use the mobile devices default video player as opposed to much smaller in line/browser playback...

Verbal · 06-21-2012, 12:47 PM

Don't mind me

TheSenator · 06-21-2012, 12:51 PM

mp4 seems to be working on all mobile phones...

fris · 06-21-2012, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator

mp4 seems to be working on all mobile phones...

ya best to just stick to mp4 across the board.

Markul · 06-21-2012, 02:49 PM

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CyberHustler · 06-21-2012, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

I don't see using it as realistic for me.

I have a limited amount of server space I can afford and I'm trying to compete with
sites with tons of content. To need 3x as much space is not going to work out for me.

http://videobam.com/

Plays on everything

raymor · 06-21-2012, 03:03 PM

Both, with one file. Use the html5 <video> tag to embed your mpeg4, and have a direct link to the file. According to one source, IE9+,Chrome 4+, Safari 3.2+ and Android 2.1+ will show the embedded mp4. All others click the link.

I expect that in time the other browsers will support mpeg4 via <video>. You can also add Flash to play the mpeg4 when the browser can't play it directly since Flash can play mpeg4.

acctman · 06-21-2012, 05:17 PM

Html5 video is a pain the the fucking ass... It's suppose to make things easier but I don't see how needed 3 formats makes things easier than just having one .flv file. But they're pushing to get rid of flash go figure

Voodoo · 06-21-2012, 05:19 PM

http://flowplayer.org

Flash Player w/ HTML5 fallback.

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raymor · 06-21-2012, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acctman

Html5 video is a pain the the fucking ass... It's suppose to make things easier but I don't see how needed 3 formats makes things easier than just having one .flv file. But they're pushing to get rid of flash go figure

Give it time. In 1996, Linux got IPv6 support. On April Fool's day 2001, I posted that the internet was being switched to IPv6 and it would be down for about an hour or two to switch it. In 2006, Windows got usable IPv6. In 2012, some ISPs will start to support it. That's sixteen years from being supported by server operating systems to actually being used. HTML 5 may take a year or two to stabilize with specific codecs.

livexxx · 06-21-2012, 05:28 PM

yes correct fallback is important if its a responsive design you are building, less so if you are providing just a pure mobile option. encoding .com is also good as alterrnative to zencoder. I like this one as well to deliver to iphone and android http://chall32.blogspot.co.uk/2011/0...or-iphone.html

also a good sniffer, iphoners have more money than android owners , cos they have to pay stiff monthlies to own it. dont forget the tel: and sms: html tags as well to launch their phone or text services rather than send them to a stupid credit card payment page.

Vendzilla · 06-21-2012, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voodoo

http://flowplayer.org

Flash Player w/ HTML5 fallback.

</end>

Exactly what I did, but only with my droid so far

Voodoo · 06-21-2012, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Exactly what I did, but only with my droid so far

Flowplayer works w/ iPhone with the auto html5 fallback that is integrated.

Vendzilla · 06-21-2012, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voodoo

Flowplayer works w/ iPhone with the auto html5 fallback that is integrated.

Coolio, started playing with html5 templates, they rock with the sliders

xenigo · 06-21-2012, 08:56 PM

I'm running the JW Player Wordpress plugin using HTML5 and a Flash fallback... using only an MP4 file and it works great. Tested on both iOS and Android. Works perfectly.

Konda · 06-21-2012, 09:33 PM

Just use JW player with .mp4 and lighttpd

It has html5 fallback, so when a user or device doesn't have flash it will automatically play in html5

It works in all browsers and all modern smartphones (iphone, android, ipad etc)

no need to have multiple .mp4 versions

sai · 06-29-2012, 11:01 AM

Do i need to pay for JW Player license to use on commercial member site ?

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raymor Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,745	Both, with one file. Use the html5 <video> tag to embed your mpeg4, and have a direct link to the file. According to one source, IE9+,Chrome 4+, Safari 3.2+ and Android 2.1+ will show the embedded mp4. All others click the link. I expect that in time the other browsers will support mpeg4 via <video>. You can also add Flash to play the mpeg4 when the browser can't play it directly since Flash can play mpeg4. Last edited by raymor; 06-21-2012 at 03:04 PM..

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Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	Just use JW player with .mp4 and lighttpd It has html5 fallback, so when a user or device doesn't have flash it will automatically play in html5 It works in all browsers and all modern smartphones (iphone, android, ipad etc) no need to have multiple .mp4 versions

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