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Paul Markham · 07-13-2012, 03:51 AM

For online porn and not just for me, for everyone but a tiny few and even these will look back on 2012 as the "Good Old Days". Unless we can really do something or have something that returns us to conditions of days gone by.

For online porn it was probably 2005 to 2008. Some will say it was earlier or later for them. This is about the whole industry. Not individuals.

We need the return of the cost of band width to the days when traffic costs of a gallery on The Hun could be more than the sign ups value. Speed to be so slow that it's not possible to download full definition movies in 10 minutes and 144 a day. And that's slower than today's speeds.

Tubes will go bankrupt by showing movies in any size or length over 1 minute, in the hope some will click on an advert. And piracy will be just as unprofitable for most, with file lockers costing far more than they will make by charging a dollars to download all the content anyone needs for months on end.

Until people have to buy online porn. The good old days are gone.

It will be interesting to see how the emergence of sites like babes.com, orgasms.xxx and whengirlsplay.com effect their future. For sites that deliver the same old canned porn that worked in 2000, it's going to be tough. The audience has been educated in far more than how to download free porn. It's also been educated to expect a great product.

I'm still behind Adultking in his fight to cut out the cancer of piracy and will try to help in any way I can. As I would back any move to cut parasites.

Will remain a realist and glad and then Eva and I were able, to get in very early, make a few bucks and get out in one piece. Well not completely out. See sig.

DK · 07-13-2012, 04:23 AM

DWB · 07-13-2012, 04:26 AM

In before Damian.

u-Bob · 07-13-2012, 04:26 AM

At first I thought this was going to be an introduction to metaphysics, then I read the Luddite remarks about the cost of bandwidth and stopped reading.

Paul Markham · 07-13-2012, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

In before Damian.

He'll be here soon with the same old broken record.

Barefootsies · 07-13-2012, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

He'll be here with the same old broken record.

....also know as "the Markham".

Paul Markham · 07-13-2012, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

In before Damian.

I think he's away for the weekend. Gone to some Festival.

Colmike9 · 07-13-2012, 06:29 AM

The good days are only over for opportunist idiots that don't know how to 'sell' and got lucky.

That's like a '49er in '52 saying 'Shit man, I used to be amazing at finding gold but the good days are over.'

Surfers today are also going to think 'Man, this crap is old' and go to another site. That wasn't a problem when every site was basically the same age..

tony286 · 07-13-2012, 06:47 AM

The roi on adult will never be the same. You sold someone a video for $40 dollars,they didnt expect every video you ever made from the first day you picked up a camera. All you had to make your choice was a box cover. 200 million dollar budgeted movies trailers are never more than 2 mins but porn feels the need to give away 10 min to 30 min scenes. I also think porn wasnt supposed to be as big as it is today. Before porn was small and those people made a bunch of money now you have more people than it needs and desperation sets in. Hence the race to the bottom.

Barefootsies · 07-13-2012, 06:52 AM

Damian reminds me of this guy.......... or vice versa.

For the record, I like Damian. I also like Graham Norton. They just remind me of one another.

sperbonzo · 07-13-2012, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

At first I thought this was going to be an introduction to metaphysics, then I read the Luddite remarks about the cost of bandwidth and stopped reading.

Nice Dennis Miller touch there.....

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grumpy · 07-13-2012, 07:57 AM

if you put the same amount of time in your business as you put in your statements here, your business would be flourishing. Use your resources wisely.

CaptainHowdy · 07-13-2012, 08:42 AM

I ain't feeling nostalgic at all ...

B.Barnato · 07-13-2012, 08:44 AM

Diomed · 07-13-2012, 09:06 AM

Fuck off with your same old tired bullshit.

God knows you are one bored bastard.. Constantly harping about the same stale shit. Your statements are about as relevant as a milkman. I can't stand people like you. I do hope one day when you look in the mirror, you'll have a moment of self actualization and realize through and through just how pathetic you are.

The old dog needs attention, but nobody wants to run their hand through his greasy rotten hair. You know a thing or two about a thing or two, we get it. Your gfy award was appropriate to say the least.

Sounds like old yeller needs to be clipped already. How do you shrug off the FACT that almost everyone on the board hates you..? Same old I'm right their wrong mentality? Fuck.

Why not do something more productive with your time? All bullshit aside.

Colmike9 · 07-13-2012, 09:12 AM

There is still a ton of money in porn, especially if a regular guy like me can basically just sit on my couch or go to the park high and make a 6 figure bank acct in 2 years from absolutely nothing.

btw, I'm making more than ever now, too

Paul Markham · 07-13-2012, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

At first I thought this was going to be an introduction to metaphysics, then I read the Luddite remarks about the cost of bandwidth and stopped reading.

Do you have anything else to add?

papill0n · 07-13-2012, 10:00 AM

wow you really know the indutry paul

you must have a ton of traffic and make a ton of money

oh wait sorry man. youre broke, your partner needs to work a job, your a fucking compulsive liar and your market is guys like me who wont ever buy shit from you

hey dont stop and think about just repost your brilliance and carry on like usual dickhead

Paul Markham · 07-13-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286

The roi on adult will never be the same. You sold someone a video for $40 dollars,they didnt expect every video you ever made from the first day you picked up a camera. All you had to make your choice was a box cover. 200 million dollar budgeted movies trailers are never more than 2 mins but porn feels the need to give away 10 min to 30 min scenes. I also think porn wasnt supposed to be as big as it is today. Before porn was small and those people made a bunch of money now you have more people than it needs and desperation sets in. Hence the race to the bottom.

Yes, 100,000s of shops selling porn videos for $40 that were only 5 scenes and magazines were the real good old days. The Internet just combined production, wholesale and retail into one entity or a couple. Those days are very long gone. The size of that industry world wide was far more than online porn ever was.

No I have no real proof and neither fdoes anyone have proof to show it's not true. Logic tells me that when you had to but 5 a months supply every month. It would generate far more than a system where you didn't have to buy and when you did, you could get 6 months to a years supply for $30.

2012 · 07-13-2012, 10:06 AM

papill0n · 07-13-2012, 10:08 AM

fucking sig whore troll

SIK · 07-13-2012, 10:13 AM

I fucking LOVE this pic

Colmike9 · 07-13-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by papill0n

fucking sig whore troll

He seriously doesn't post on some other boards anymore because his sig was too big, so he thought he was too big to post there because of that..

lazycash · 07-13-2012, 10:17 AM

Most definitely was not 2005-2008 for the industry, the US recession and real estate collapse was in full effect by 2008 and tubes were already having an impact. The glory days for most were 2002-2006.

Colmike9 · 07-13-2012, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Most definitely was not 2005-2008 for the industry, the US recession and real estate collapse was in full effect by 2008 and tubes were already having an impact. The glory days for most were 2002-2006.

What about the late 90s? Too bad I was still in middle school..

OldJeff · 07-13-2012, 10:25 AM

OldJeff · 07-13-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff

Why am I too stupid to make this work

grumpy · 07-13-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff

learn, learn and learn.

papill0n · 07-13-2012, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff

[ youtube ]kH-VkXfKXMA[ /youtube ]

remove spaces

OldJeff · 07-13-2012, 10:37 AM

[youtube ]kH-VkXfKXMA[ /youtube]

Thanks, I hope

OldJeff · 07-13-2012, 10:38 AM

No wonder I can't build a website

epitome · 07-13-2012, 11:46 AM

Always thinking, never doing.

TheSquealer · 07-13-2012, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Nice Dennis Miller touch there.....

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In Grand Theft Auto IV, the not very bright and newly immigrated Slavic character (Roman) calls his brother who has no email address, a Luddite. That bothered me every time I heard it. Just felt to be a little too far out of his vocabulary range.

Sly · 07-13-2012, 12:00 PM

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amacontent · 07-13-2012, 12:09 PM

Didnt you retire, surely the Great Paul M, master of the universe made enough where he doesnt have to stoop to posting on GFY. Sorry Paul , your just like a senile old man ranting as people pass you in the street. Geez.

MrCain · 07-13-2012, 01:03 PM

MrCain · 07-13-2012, 01:04 PM

HushMoney · 07-13-2012, 01:11 PM

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Jel · 07-13-2012, 01:17 PM

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iwantchixx · 07-13-2012, 01:18 PM

You keep reiterating the same vague garbage over and over and over again every fucking day you post on here.. seriously. are you a broken record?

Paul Markham · 07-13-2012, 01:19 PM

Sorry, I screwed up my post.

I should of said.

No I have no real proof and neither fdoes anyone have proof to show it's not true. Logic tells me that when you had to buy a months supply every month, which was only 5 scenes. It would generate far more than a system where you didn't have to buy and when you did, you could get 6 months to a years supply for $30.

I like the replies. Nothing to say and use too many words to do it.

When ever the glory days of online porn were, they are gone. Never to return. While my ship made it to the shore, most of you will have to get a new one to finish your journey.

Paul Markham · 07-13-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx

You keep reiterating the same vague garbage over and over and over again every fucking day you post on here.. seriously. are you a broken record?

And you keep reading it and posting in the thread.

Jel · 07-13-2012, 01:24 PM

paul markham threads are great when you have paul markham on ignore

all the fun of him getting his ass handed to him, and none of the insane text walls

MrCain · 07-13-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

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lazycash · 07-13-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

What about the late 90s? Too bad I was still in middle school..

Well yeah, most definitely the late 90's, I was just using a shorter period like Paul did.

papill0n · 07-13-2012, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

We need the return of the cost of band width to the days when traffic costs of a gallery on The Hun could be more than the sign ups value. Speed to be so slow that it's not possible to download full definition movies in 10 minutes and 144 a day. And that's slower than today's speeds.

you know what paul that is a really great idea man

slow the internet down so noone can download anything

stab yourself in the face with a pen idiot

ShoeBox · 07-13-2012, 01:57 PM

paul ur website is down

johnnyloadproductions · 07-13-2012, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7

There is still a ton of money in porn, especially if a regular guy like me can basically just sit on my couch or go to the park high and make a 6 figure bank acct in 2 years from absolutely nothing.

btw, I'm making more than ever now, too

I believe you.
I've done my share of moaning and bitching. It sounded like you did more than just porn, weren't you doing something along the lines of robotics (you mentioned an expensive license in another thread).

I believe there is money to be made in porn niche communities. Facialforum makes ok money catering to there user base and having some industry people hang out there.

epitome · 07-13-2012, 03:12 PM

B.Barnato · 07-13-2012, 03:14 PM

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07-13-2012, 03:51 AM	#1
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	The "Good Old Days" will remain days gone by. For online porn and not just for me, for everyone but a tiny few and even these will look back on 2012 as the "Good Old Days". Unless we can really do something or have something that returns us to conditions of days gone by. For online porn it was probably 2005 to 2008. Some will say it was earlier or later for them. This is about the whole industry. Not individuals. We need the return of the cost of band width to the days when traffic costs of a gallery on The Hun could be more than the sign ups value. Speed to be so slow that it's not possible to download full definition movies in 10 minutes and 144 a day. And that's slower than today's speeds. Tubes will go bankrupt by showing movies in any size or length over 1 minute, in the hope some will click on an advert. And piracy will be just as unprofitable for most, with file lockers costing far more than they will make by charging a dollars to download all the content anyone needs for months on end. Until people have to buy online porn. The good old days are gone. It will be interesting to see how the emergence of sites like babes.com, orgasms.xxx and whengirlsplay.com effect their future. For sites that deliver the same old canned porn that worked in 2000, it's going to be tough. The audience has been educated in far more than how to download free porn. It's also been educated to expect a great product. I'm still behind Adultking in his fight to cut out the cancer of piracy and will try to help in any way I can. As I would back any move to cut parasites. Will remain a realist and glad and then Eva and I were able, to get in very early, make a few bucks and get out in one piece. Well not completely out. See sig. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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Colmike9 (>^_^)b Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 7,224	The good days are only over for opportunist idiots that don't know how to 'sell' and got lucky. That's like a '49er in '52 saying 'Shit man, I used to be amazing at finding gold but the good days are over.' Surfers today are also going to think 'Man, this crap is old' and go to another site. That wasn't a problem when every site was basically the same age.. __________________ Join the BEST cam affiliate program on the internet! I've referred over $1.7mil in spending this past year, you should join in. I make a lot more money in the medical field in a lab now, fuck you guys. Don't ask me to come back, but do join Chaturbate in my sig, it still makes bank without me touching shit for years.. Last edited by Colmike9; 07-13-2012 at 06:30 AM..

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07-13-2012, 06:47 AM	#9
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	The roi on adult will never be the same. You sold someone a video for $40 dollars,they didnt expect every video you ever made from the first day you picked up a camera. All you had to make your choice was a box cover. 200 million dollar budgeted movies trailers are never more than 2 mins but porn feels the need to give away 10 min to 30 min scenes. I also think porn wasnt supposed to be as big as it is today. Before porn was small and those people made a bunch of money now you have more people than it needs and desperation sets in. Hence the race to the bottom.

07-13-2012, 08:42 AM	#13
CaptainHowdy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Happy in the dark. Posts: 93,564	I ain't feeling nostalgic at all ...

07-13-2012, 08:44 AM	#14
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07-13-2012, 09:06 AM	#15
Diomed Converting like it's 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The South Posts: 6,167	Fuck off with your same old tired bullshit. God knows you are one bored bastard.. Constantly harping about the same stale shit. Your statements are about as relevant as a milkman. I can't stand people like you. I do hope one day when you look in the mirror, you'll have a moment of self actualization and realize through and through just how pathetic you are. The old dog needs attention, but nobody wants to run their hand through his greasy rotten hair. You know a thing or two about a thing or two, we get it. Your gfy award was appropriate to say the least. Sounds like old yeller needs to be clipped already. How do you shrug off the FACT that almost everyone on the board hates you..? Same old I'm right their wrong mentality? Fuck. Why not do something more productive with your time? All bullshit aside. __________________ 10 years of experience in: CHAT SALES - PAID TRAFFIC - CONVERSION - CREATIVES - CONSULTATION

07-13-2012, 09:12 AM	#16
Colmike9 (>^_^)b Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 7,224	There is still a ton of money in porn, especially if a regular guy like me can basically just sit on my couch or go to the park high and make a 6 figure bank acct in 2 years from absolutely nothing. btw, I'm making more than ever now, too __________________ Join the BEST cam affiliate program on the internet! I've referred over $1.7mil in spending this past year, you should join in. I make a lot more money in the medical field in a lab now, fuck you guys. Don't ask me to come back, but do join Chaturbate in my sig, it still makes bank without me touching shit for years..

07-13-2012, 10:00 AM	#18
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	wow you really know the indutry paul you must have a ton of traffic and make a ton of money oh wait sorry man. youre broke, your partner needs to work a job, your a fucking compulsive liar and your market is guys like me who wont ever buy shit from you hey dont stop and think about just repost your brilliance and carry on like usual dickhead

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papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	fucking sig whore troll

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lazycash Troll Patrol Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal Posts: 15,214	Most definitely was not 2005-2008 for the industry, the US recession and real estate collapse was in full effect by 2008 and tubes were already having an impact. The glory days for most were 2002-2006.

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iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	You keep reiterating the same vague garbage over and over and over again every fucking day you post on here.. seriously. are you a broken record?

07-13-2012, 01:19 PM	#41
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Sorry, I screwed up my post. I should of said. No I have no real proof and neither fdoes anyone have proof to show it's not true. Logic tells me that when you had to buy a months supply every month, which was only 5 scenes. It would generate far more than a system where you didn't have to buy and when you did, you could get 6 months to a years supply for $30. I like the replies. Nothing to say and use too many words to do it. When ever the glory days of online porn were, they are gone. Never to return. While my ship made it to the shore, most of you will have to get a new one to finish your journey. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

07-13-2012, 01:24 PM	#43
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	paul markham threads are great when you have paul markham on ignore all the fun of him getting his ass handed to him, and none of the insane text walls

07-13-2012, 01:57 PM	#47
ShoeBox So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2012 Location: Brazil Posts: 2,056	paul ur website is down

07-13-2012, 03:12 PM	#49
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