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Old 07-19-2012, 09:42 AM   #1
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Affiliates now trying to forge affiliate payout checks?

Hey Peters Unlimited
Did you HONESTLY think you could forge a check on us for $38,000 dollars and get away with it?

Beware Affiliate Programs!!!
We have an affiliate out here trying to forge your checks now.

WOW! It just keeps getting better and better around here doesn't it.
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:43 AM   #2
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Well that just takes the cake doesn't it?
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:45 AM   #3
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Think yourself lucky this is your first time. Been happening to PIMPROLL for a couple of years. $35 checks turning into $64,000. Our affiliates who make that kind of money always get wire payments.
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:46 AM   #4
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Not the first time.
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:49 AM   #5
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it just never ends. keep your eyes and ears open!
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:09 AM   #6
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I certainly hope you guys are filing police reports.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:12 AM   #7
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That is some scary shit. I am always hesitant to take checks from anyone. I do high xx,xxx a month and always ask for wire or paxum.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:45 AM   #8
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Yep wire for anything over 500
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:11 AM   #9
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Think yourself lucky this is your first time. Been happening to PIMPROLL for a couple of years. $35 checks turning into $64,000. Our affiliates who make that kind of money always get wire payments.
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Not the first time.
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it just never ends. keep your eyes and ears open!
It's not just affiliates, you have models and Nigerian scams. Checks being washed and presented for hire payments have been around for a very long time, it just seams to lend it self to our industry more often for some reason.

Talk to your bank, send them a list of checks you have drawn on a daily basis, and they will stop any check number that doesn't match the amount stated on your file.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:14 AM   #10
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Sorry to hear Tom, we had the issue back in the 90s at AmateurPages with that.
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:19 PM   #11
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Damn, I am glad that I only forged mine for $37,999.

I must have flown in under the radar.
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:32 PM   #12
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This is an old school scam.. Copy the routing numbers etc, and put your own amount.. I know plenty of people that have been hit by this in the past dating back to 2001..

Some companies require two signatures for amounts over a certain number, even states on the check..

Smart security measure.. because they'll never know what the second signature looks like or that bigger format check looks like unless they're getting big money checks on payout..
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:05 PM   #13
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Crazy,i suppose no payment method is secure against scammers.
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:12 PM   #14
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The check system is so antiquated and is really the most frighteningly trusting system left in the financial world
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:14 PM   #15
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lately a lot of this "checks?" threads ...
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:16 PM   #16
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This is an old school scam.. Copy the routing numbers etc, and put your own amount.. I know plenty of people that have been hit by this in the past dating back to 2001..

Some companies require two signatures for amounts over a certain number, even states on the check..

Smart security measure.. because they'll never know what the second signature looks like or that bigger format check looks like unless they're getting big money checks on payout..
it was you?
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:21 PM   #17
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JaymanCash checks are full of security features too, its pretty hard to imagine trying to forge those checks.
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:24 PM   #18
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:35 PM   #19
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it was you?
Nope.. I was working freelance for someone who had to re-issue my invoice checks because of this problem.. They had to shut down the whole account because the checks were clearing at random banks.. The checks looked that legit.. They got hit pretty damn hard.. That's why I know a lot of people use one account specifically for clearinghouse type transactions only for affiliates.. the other account is safe and never gets hit..
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:36 PM   #20
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Crazy,i suppose no payment method is secure against scammers.
where there is a payment, there's a fucker trying to scam it
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:49 PM   #21
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The check system is so antiquated and is really the most frighteningly trusting system left in the financial world
That is part of the reason it's no longer in use in most countries.
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Old 07-20-2012, 01:36 AM   #22
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The check system is so antiquated and is really the most frighteningly trusting system left in the financial world
True, take a check into a Spanish bank and they have to have a meeting to work out what to do with it.
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:18 AM   #23
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that's a very serious crime - what country is the affiliate from and are you going to report the crime?
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:29 AM   #24
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Some companies require two signatures for amounts over a certain number, even states on the check..
Ibill used to do this. I remember getting my first 2 signature affiliate check from Ibill. I think it required 2 signatures for payments over $10,000
Considering it was bi-weekly checks I was making pretty nice money with them
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:09 AM   #25
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JaymanCash checks are full of security features too, its pretty hard to imagine trying to forge those checks.
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Having a lot of security features are a false sense of security. Your bank will know what your checks look like, but other banks don't. There are computer programs that allow you to print your own checks so you don't have to worry about a check printing service verifying with the bank the account and routing.
Several employees of a large corporation I worked for did this. One did this method. Instead of using the real company name he created a phony company to print as the account holder. He then added a fake address in a large office complex. So when he cashed them at a local bank the tellers wouldn't spot the phoney address. Took a bit to figure out the scam as the real company owned hundreds of corporations. Tracked the former employee down and found out he was doing his 4th stretch for check & credit card scams.

If your bank offers <B>Positive Pay</B>, use it! Every time you do a check run, you send your bank a list of checks and amounts. When a check is presented for payment, the amount has to match to that check number or it will be returned. The bank that cashed the check is out unless they catch the scammer. Not sure but Positive Pay may reimburse you if they fuckup and clear a check.
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