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Old 07-26-2012, 09:47 AM   #1
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:mad Has Google finally done it?

Killed off porn on the net I mean? I don?t know about anyone else but their last few penguin updates have just about killed off 100+ of my sites, I had some nice positions with sites that are now buried so deep that it would take those rescuers who saved those minors to find them, every mini update since then, including yesterdays has only seen higher placements for torrents, full length movie tubes, Facebook pages and even E-Bay listings for porn searches. It?s obvious that Google is gunning for taking out paid for porn.
It's obvious that the porn industry cannot organise a piss up in a brewery otherwise I?d suggest that every single porn site started showing banners saying "search for porn on Bing!", hopefully breaking the SE monopoly Google has in the same way the "Use Firefox" banners did with Internet Explorer's tight stranglehold.
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Is there a common "practice" you applied to all 100+ sites which might have affected your rankings?

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including yesterdays has only seen higher placements for torrents, full length movie tubes
then porno is not the problem
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I do not believe the normal scapegoats.... Google, politicians, government, or Canadian Illuminati.... need to worry about going after the adult online porn industry.

The porn industry does not need any "help" in wiping it's self out.

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they gave all the traffics to the tubes.
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I haven't updated 3 of my blogs for 2 years now and they receive constant traffic, at around 2k uniques / day.

Maybe that's something to consider
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then porno is not the problem
i was saying that they are pushing out paid for porn on purpose, not the free stuff.
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Is there a common "practice" you applied to all 100+ sites which might have affected your rankings?
no, i don't think so, its a complete mixture of tubes, tgps, blogs, other scripts and static pages. i couldnt be that conistant with my SEO across all those scripts.
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Been that way for a bit. We've been eeked out.

Start a torrent site or forum and you'll get a great rank.
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Killed off porn on the net I mean? I don?t know about anyone else but their last few penguin updates have just about killed off 100+ of my sites, I had some nice positions with sites that are now buried so deep that it would take those rescuers who saved those minors to find them, every mini update since then, including yesterdays has only seen higher placements for torrents, full length movie tubes, Facebook pages and even E-Bay listings for porn searches. It?s obvious that Google is gunning for taking out paid for porn.
It's obvious that the porn industry cannot organise a piss up in a brewery otherwise I?d suggest that every single porn site started showing banners saying "search for porn on Bing!", hopefully breaking the SE monopoly Google has in the same way the "Use Firefox" banners did with Internet Explorer's tight stranglehold.
Thinking like this is bad for your business.

Google does not have anything against porn. The only Google product that does not support porn is Google Adsense.

If your site suddenly fell in ranking due to anything that Google did, it is Google improving how they rank sites to provide better search results to their customers. It has nothing at all to do with porn.

For example. If you had an Olivia Wilde tribute site, full of photos and articles about Olivia Wilde, proper tags and good content *about* Olivia Wild, Google would like you because you are providing exact the content someone searching for "Olivia Wilde" would want, and especially click on.

If other site owners ALSO agreed and linked to your site, Google would like you even more, and give you higher ranking on search results.

If those back links are from useless pages, scripts or other "bad" things, Google will lower your rank. IF your site is not relevant to the announced or advertised subject, your rank will drop again.

If your site was doing well yesterday and poorly today, it may be because Google has changed how they rank sites, or they found something they don't like.

I was talking to our Google ad rep yesterday. We buy Google Adwords for our site, www.2Much.net, and I asked him if it was ok to link to a porn site, then got on to the topic of porn sites in general. He said just what I said above. Google only cares about delivering quality search results to its customers, porn or otherwise.
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Google is just giving their traffic what they want, I doubt it's personal.
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google owns the internets largest tube and makes no money off porn sites (not counting adwords buyers of course) since they can't run google adsense...

But yea its been sucking since end of april after that penguin update. Just a bunch of illegal non unique scraper sites and news sites/wikipedia
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Google is going nuts for fresh results now.
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Thinking like this is bad for your business.

Google does not have anything against porn. The only Google product that does not support porn is Google Adsense.

If your site suddenly fell in ranking due to anything that Google did, it is Google improving how they rank sites to provide better search results to their customers. It has nothing at all to do with porn.

For example. If you had an Olivia Wilde tribute site, full of photos and articles about Olivia Wilde, proper tags and good content *about* Olivia Wild, Google would like you because you are providing exact the content someone searching for "Olivia Wilde" would want, and especially click on.

If other site owners ALSO agreed and linked to your site, Google would like you even more, and give you higher ranking on search results.

If those back links are from useless pages, scripts or other "bad" things, Google will lower your rank. IF your site is not relevant to the announced or advertised subject, your rank will drop again.

If your site was doing well yesterday and poorly today, it may be because Google has changed how they rank sites, or they found something they don't like.

I was talking to our Google ad rep yesterday. We buy Google Adwords for our site, www.2Much.net, and I asked him if it was ok to link to a porn site, then got on to the topic of porn sites in general. He said just what I said above. Google only cares about delivering quality search results to its customers, porn or otherwise.
maybe you could explain why a porn search for a popular two word term would bring up in page one results facebook profiles, ebay listings and at least one a tube half-built with no videos yet uploaded
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maybe you could explain why a porn search for a popular two word term would bring up in page one results facebook profiles, ebay listings and at least one a tube half-built with no videos yet uploaded
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google says one thing... SERPS show the opposite...(especially since penguin) I still see really messed up results for some (adult) webcam searches... a lot of spam sites and non relevant sites dominate search engines... relevant sites dropped...

they also SAID some bad stuff about template sites .... so why is it that WHITELABELS dominate SERPS? Even more than before penguin???
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Killed off porn on the net I mean? I don?t know about anyone else but their last few penguin updates have just about killed off 100+ of my sites, I had some nice positions with sites that are now buried so deep that it would take those rescuers who saved those minors to find them, every mini update since then, including yesterdays has only seen higher placements for torrents, full length movie tubes, Facebook pages and even E-Bay listings for porn searches. It?s obvious that Google is gunning for taking out paid for porn.
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did you add all your sites to google webmaster tools? you may need to do some serious seo to get back up top again.
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For example. If you had an Olivia Wilde tribute site, full of photos and articles about Olivia Wilde, proper tags and good content *about* Olivia Wild, Google would like you because you are providing exact the content someone searching for "Olivia Wilde" would want, and especially click on.
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I was talking to our Google ad rep yesterday. We buy Google Adwords for our site, www.2Much.net, and I asked him if it was ok to link to a porn site, then got on to the topic of porn sites in general. He said just what I said above. Google only cares about delivering quality search results to its customers, porn or otherwise.
This is so untrue, I want to cry

Instead of Olivia Wilde, let's take a softcore model Lilly Roma. Let the google rep explain how this is diverse, quality results? 1st result twitter, 2-8 results dailymotion, 9th result official site.


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google says one thing... SERPS show the opposite...(especially since penguin) I still see really messed up results for some (adult) webcam searches... a lot of spam sites and non relevant sites dominate search engines... relevant sites dropped...

they also SAID some bad stuff about template sites .... so why is it that WHITELABELS dominate SERPS? Even more than before penguin???
you've right, i'm seeing the same things....more spam sites than before, the penguin filters seems disactivated on some serps.
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google says one thing... SERPS show the opposite...(especially since penguin) I still see really messed up results for some (adult) webcam searches... a lot of spam sites and non relevant sites dominate search engines... relevant sites dropped...
they also SAID some bad stuff about template sites .... so why is it that WHITELABELS dominate SERPS? Even more than before penguin???
I quite agree. In top for cam searches lately it is all clone streamate whitelabels with nice domain name, and some trafficholder / trafficshop "cycle guys forever skimmed CJ's" sites at their cams folder. Real unique cam sites or blogs are buried in page 2+. Google for sure changes those rankings very often , it must be not easy that's the whole internet to rank. We there do a specific search and bust google fail but imagine how many specific searches can be made, what we know?
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google's serps (adult, mainstream, whatever) these days are the equivalent of a novice English speaker trying to write an essay - extremely broken & flawed.
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It is not like Google has been HIDING its agenda. They spelled it all out HERE. The problem is that the old ways of ranking at Google were CHEAPER, FASTER, and TOOK LESS EFFORT. Now, it means people would have to...gasp.... WORK to create user-centered sites
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Does G+1 buttons help rankingin google yet? I have a +77 in home and I wonder if this changes from having +0 or +10000, as those buttons look otherwise not useful at all
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My main site www.femdomdestiny.com is completely out of SERP for term femdom. And It is updated every day, self hosted content. It was never worse, as sson as I make increase on other site, google fuck several other sites, so I am struggling and still having less traffic then in previous months, and not to mention years,
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It is not like Google has been HIDING its agenda. They spelled it all out HERE. The problem is that the old ways of ranking at Google were CHEAPER, FASTER, and TOOK LESS EFFORT. Now, it means people would have to...gasp.... WORK to create user-centered sites
why? why bother, i could make an awesome site and it'll only be pushed out of the rankings by fackbook pages and fucking ebay listings. its nothing to do with seo when an ebay listing appears on page one of a hotly contested search term - google seo no-longer exists, its just down to pure luck now.
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My main site www.femdomdestiny.com is completely out of SERP for term femdom. And It is updated every day, self hosted content. It was never worse, as sson as I make increase on other site, google fuck several other sites, so I am struggling and still having less traffic then in previous months, and not to mention years,
Are you a publicly traded company with a brand? No? Then get fucked. Long story short that's pretty much how Google sees it. I agree that it sucks.
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why? why bother, i could make an awesome site and it'll only be pushed out of the rankings by fackbook pages and fucking ebay listings. its nothing to do with seo when an ebay listing appears on page one of a hotly contested search term - google seo no-longer exists, its just down to pure luck now.
Why bother? It's all about building a business instead of some get rich quick hobby. If you really got socked, why not start from scratch by profiling your target audience and build it from the ground up based on your user community? For too long, people have just been sniping keywords off Google. Looks like that's no longer a viable option. We all have a choice now-do we focus on our customers primarily or do we keep hoping the easy days of siphoning off traffic from google returns? Live by Google, die by Google. Instead, build on customers and let their feedback/clicking patterns on your site guide you to building a site around them-their experience-their expectations.
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Why bother? It's all about building a business instead of some get rich quick hobby. If you really got socked, why not start from scratch by profiling your target audience and build it from the ground up based on your user community? For too long, people have just been sniping keywords off Google. Looks like that's no longer a viable option. We all have a choice now-do we focus on our customers primarily or do we keep hoping the easy days of siphoning off traffic from google returns? Live by Google, die by Google. Instead, build on customers and let their feedback/clicking patterns on your site guide you to building a site around them-their experience-their expectations.
I understand what you are saying but its not relevant to this thread, having a happy userbase doesnt help google seo anymore, Ebay listings should NOT rank high for porn keywords on google.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:09 PM   #42
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Lol to the disbelievers and have their own "proof" that Google does something differently. What Google wants to do is spelled out on their own pages. They tell you exactly what they are doing and how you can help them and yourself get better search results. nickutis, rogueteens: Take the time to read what Google is doing, from Google's own pages. Jumping to your own conclusions or believing what some seo "expert" over Google is a mistake.
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Lol to the disbelievers and have their own "proof" that Google does something differently. What Google wants to do is spelled out on their own pages. They tell you exactly what they are doing and how you can help them and yourself get better search results. nickutis, rogueteens: Take the time to read what Google is doing, from Google's own pages. Jumping to your own conclusions or believing what some seo "expert" over Google is a mistake.
What Google tells you to do is follow THEIR guidelines. However, their algo is still easy to game and many people keep gaming it. Thus you end up at the bottom of the barrel, if all you do is follow Google's guidelines.
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i had 1 site go down (my best search engine site) so i changed from wordpress to just a basic html layout and know gets more traffic than before and no idea why
I've noticed the same, google knows that most wordpress sites and blogs are garbage that the surfer doesn't want to see anyways.
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I've noticed the same, google knows that most wordpress sites and blogs are garbage that the surfer doesn't want to see anyways.
So the same garbage in a static format ranks better? Good to know.
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Looks llike ********** is professional asskisser,first he was kissing ccbill ass and now he kisses google ass.
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Looks llike ********** is professional asskisser,first he was kissing ccbill ass and now he kisses google ass.
You'd kiss Google's ass too, for the right amount of traffic. ;)
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why? why bother, i could make an awesome site and it'll only be pushed out of the rankings by fackbook pages and fucking ebay listings. its nothing to do with seo when an ebay listing appears on page one of a hotly contested search term - google seo no-longer exists, its just down to pure luck now.
Can you please tell us more about googles mathematical formulas and algorithms based on "luck"

LuckRank?
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Thinking like this is bad for your business.

Google does not have anything against porn. The only Google product that does not support porn is Google Adsense.

If your site suddenly fell in ranking due to anything that Google did, it is Google improving how they rank sites to provide better search results to their customers. It has nothing at all to do with porn.

For example. If you had an Olivia Wilde tribute site, full of photos and articles about Olivia Wilde, proper tags and good content *about* Olivia Wild, Google would like you because you are providing exact the content someone searching for "Olivia Wilde" would want, and especially click on.

If other site owners ALSO agreed and linked to your site, Google would like you even more, and give you higher ranking on search results.

If those back links are from useless pages, scripts or other "bad" things, Google will lower your rank. IF your site is not relevant to the announced or advertised subject, your rank will drop again.

If your site was doing well yesterday and poorly today, it may be because Google has changed how they rank sites, or they found something they don't like.

I was talking to our Google ad rep yesterday. We buy Google Adwords for our site, www.2Much.net, and I asked him if it was ok to link to a porn site, then got on to the topic of porn sites in general. He said just what I said above. Google only cares about delivering quality search results to its customers, porn or otherwise.
yes, that's what they say. But in reality, it's complete bullshit. When i look at my sites, what they say and what is actually happening is completely the opposite.
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