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Old 08-13-2012, 06:22 PM   #51
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:34 PM   #52
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Please answer me why there has not been a genocide in the USA in the past yet there has been in other countries?
Please don`t forget about the genocide on the indians... thank you...
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:08 PM   #53
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I'm a former US Marine who fully believes in his 2nd amendment. But I live in the real world - Do you really think your fucking gun is going to protect you if you get robbed? You watch way too much fucking TV.

The cop who was shot and killed today was a fully trained police officer with a firearm and he still got shot dead. Having a firearm doesn't mean you'll be protected, able to get the first shot off, or that you'll even see it coming.

I love the gun nuts who say "Well, if there was someone in the theatre it would have ended different". No, not really. Lots of people would have died. Anyone who thinks the average armed civilian is going go from eating popcorn to taking on an unknown amount of shooters in a dark movie watches WAY too much fucking TV>
Personal weapons are no guarantee against any and all crime and they sure as hell don't work so well in movie theaters in the face of tear gas firing, armor wearing, psychos with automatic weapons.

But they do come in quite handy when local punks seek to violate your personal castle rights.

As has happened to two others on my street.

Never been there myself, but I'd rather like to keep it that way
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:27 PM   #54
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:15 PM   #55
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Personal weapons are no guarantee against any and all crime and they sure as hell don't work so well in movie theaters in the face of tear gas firing, armor wearing, psychos with automatic weapons.
Exactly. Imagine if there was four armed civilians in the movies when that nut went off. Chances are we would have a lot more dead - they would be shooting at each other without knowing who started shooting in the first place.

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But they do come in quite handy when local punks seek to violate your personal castle rights.
I don't think so. Unless you carry your weapon with you 24/7 in your house AND you'll be instantly prepared to use it, your out of luck. If you four people bust down your door, even if your armed... The odds of you taking out all four in the first ten seconds is about one in one hundred. You aren't James Bond.

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As has happened to two others on my street.
You need to move.
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:28 PM   #56
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The headline says "Campus shooting", and then in the story it says that it happened a couple of blocks away, did not say if the victims were students, and have no idea as to the motive.

Yet another example of the news media worldwide becoming a complete joke.....



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i was confused about that as well. Doesn't have any explanation on what happened between the 'eviction notice' and 'several people in hospital'
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:28 PM   #57
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However in places like chicago, memphis,detroit, tampa, etc its upwards of 38 per 100k. Why is that?
Use your fondness of statistics and you will answer your own question.
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:21 PM   #58
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Do you really think your fucking gun is going to protect you if you get robbed? You watch way too much fucking TV.

The cop who was shot and killed today was a fully trained police officer with a firearm and he still got shot dead. Having a firearm doesn't mean you'll be protected, able to get the first shot off, or that you'll even see it coming.
Police would stop carrying guns if they were as ineffective as you claim. Nobody is saying that having a gun means you're 100% protected. That is a ridiculous statement. Having a gun will not prevent some nut from sneaking up from behind and popping you in the head. Yes, that is true.

However, in other situations having one will give you a better chance against an attacker than mere fisticuffs alone. I think the average cop would agree with that, otherwise they would proceed to hand over their useless firearms.
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:58 PM   #59
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Police would stop carrying guns if they were as ineffective as you claim. Nobody is saying that having a gun means you're 100% protected. That is a ridiculous statement. Having a gun will not prevent some nut from sneaking up from behind and popping you in the head. Yes, that is true.

However, in other situations having one will give you a better chance against an attacker than mere fisticuffs alone. I think the average cop would agree with that, otherwise they would proceed to hand over their useless firearms.
So if a gun doesn't protect you - and in this case a well trained and armed police officer was shot and killed - why is there is a need for us to carry guns to protect ourselves?

Our need to protect ourselves just arms the nut jobs.
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Old 08-13-2012, 11:38 PM   #60
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:41 AM   #61
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Please answer me why there has not been a genocide in the USA in the past yet there has been in other countries?
Tell that to the indians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocid...tes_of_America


or you mean recent? What places like Democratic Republic of Congo?

Yep happening everywhere, genocide all over the globe apart from the US.
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:04 AM   #62
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http://www.newsmax.com/US/mass-shoot...7/20/id/445971

http://rt.com/usa/news/mass-year-people-massacre-710/

http://timelines.latimes.com/deadlie...ting-rampages/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-nation.html

Can someone point out where any of the people being shot at, had guns to defend themselves? Maybe is should be mandatory for everyone in the US to carry a gun. Well that will be the argument put forward by the pro gun brigade.
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:04 AM   #63
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Why do people that are not from the USA so critical of US gun laws?

If Americans are critical they have that right but what difference are US Gun Laws in Canada or the Czech Republic for example?

None. You should be happy we are blowing each others brains out daily ...
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:14 AM   #64
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Why do people that are not from the USA so critical of US gun laws?

If Americans are critical they have that right but what difference are US Gun Laws in Canada or the Czech Republic for example?

None. You should be happy we are blowing each others brains out daily ...
Pretty weak argument.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:44 AM   #65
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Nobody is going to say that they plan to shoot up their workplace or a movie theater when they fill in the background check form.

So I guess everybodies wife and child is one screwball away from being murdered in a hail of armor piercing bullets fired from an assault weapon purchased legally and with a background check, online, or at a gun show.
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Pretty weak argument.
Why do you give a shit? It doesn't even affect you 7,300 km away?
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:08 AM   #67
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So if a gun doesn't protect you - and in this case a well trained and armed police officer was shot and killed - why is there is a need for us to carry guns to protect ourselves?


Great point. If something can't protect you 100% of the time, might as well not use it at all. Condoms only reduce risk of HIV by 80-95%, so why not start fucking HIV infected hookers bareback?

How about phoning up your local police department and asking why they insist on carrying these worthless lumps of metal around with them?
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Old 08-14-2012, 11:23 AM   #68
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Nobody is going to say that they plan to shoot up their workplace or a movie theater when they fill in the background check form.

So I guess everybodies wife and child is one screwball away from being murdered in a hail of armor piercing bullets fired from an assault weapon purchased legally and with a background check, online, or at a gun show.
They say we require a background check, but all that really includes is checking to see if they have ever been convicted of a violent crime. Shouldn't they at least call his doctor and his employer to see if there are any problems we should be aware of?
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Great point. If something can't protect you 100% of the time, might as well not use it at all. Condoms only reduce risk of HIV by 80-95%, so why not start fucking HIV infected hookers bareback?

How about phoning up your local police department and asking why they insist on carrying these worthless lumps of metal around with them?
I'm just saying that we the public insist on having the right to carry firearms to protect ourselves when the truth about such situations is it's over before anyone has the time to react. We want to protect ourselves, rarely do so, and in the mean time we demand more firearms which end up in the hands of criminals and nut jobs.
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Loosen the scarf and get some oxygen to the brain. Jamaica is one. Check the obituary pages if you ever go there. It's the largest part of the local papers. Brazil and many Central and South American countries are others. I won't go into Africa. Your view is jaded by the media.

I am sorry if the US frightens you. Spend your tourist dollars elsewhere.
Yup never heard that one before. For the record the USA does not scare me lol far from it. Anyhow I concede I was wrong about per capita murders. However,
"The United States has the highest rate of gun related injuries (not deaths per capita) among developed countries, though they also have the highest rate of gun ownership and highest rate of officers" google it.
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What is easy to get in USA?? a toy or a gun?? Ans-gun..........the gun is not the solution.......licensing gun should be made more stricked in USA .........
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