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TheSquealer · 09-09-2012, 12:19 PM

Obviously we aren't going to agree. I'm not going to continue as i'm also working. I believe in helping people but I believe in the need for society to start holding people accountable for their behaviors and decisions. There needs to be standards and expectations. It's not OK with me for someone to pump out 6 kids by 25 as a single parent and expect me to pay for them.

Solving poverty in the USA is a two way street. It requires the active participation of society and the individual who is poor. You can't make an addict sober by throwing money at him. He has to understand he has a problem, he has to understand what the problem is. He has to understand what the solution is. He has to understand he needs to change and then want to make that change.

Walk down any street in the USA and tell a broke 25 year old that they don't need a new Iphone, expensive shoes, gold chains or nice wheels on their piece of shit car and see how far you get in changing people and their behaviors.

The US has created a society of increasingly self entitled, irresponsible and unaccountable people that have dramatically shifted in their thinking which built the nation in the last 40 years or so from "i'm going to live the american dream, work hard, sacrifice and build a better life for me and my family" to "hey man, you owe me".

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By the way,,, yeah, I object to lotteries and gambling made easy. I don't object to gambling when someone has to have a job, save money, buy a plane ticket, hotel rent a car to do it. I object to gambling when someone with kids to feed, who is broke, unemployed or on welfare can walk into a gas station and blow their money because they are too dumb to do the very simple math and because the state is telling them its OK, because its for a good cause.

helterskelter808 · 09-09-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Obviously we aren't going to agree. I'm not going to continue as i'm also working. I believe in helping people but I believe in the need for society to start holding people accountable for their behaviors and decisions. There needs to be standards and expectations. It's not OK with me for someone to pump out 6 kids by 25 as a single parent and expect me to pay for them.

I don't support that either. For one thing the population of the US is mushrooming; doubling about every 50 years. I just don't believe there are actually that many people having 6 kids by 25. Ann Romney certainly knows how pump them out though.

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Solving poverty in the USA is a two way street. It requires the active participation of society and the individual who is poor. You can't make an addict sober by throwing money at him. He has to understand he has a problem, he has to understand what the problem is. He has to understand what the solution is. He has to understand he needs to change and then want to make that change.

I don't know who you think is disagreeing with that.

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Walk down any street in the USA and tell a broke 25 year old that they don't need a new Iphone, expensive shoes, gold chains or nice wheels on their piece of shit car and see how far you get in changing people and their behaviors.

Companies spend billions brainwashing people into thinking they need shit they don't. Of course, right-wingers have no problem with that. That's what America is all about, right? No, it's about (or should be about) looking out for each other; not trying to screw the last possible cent from everyone.

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The US has created a society of increasingly self entitled, irresponsible and unaccountable people that have dramatically shifted in their thinking which built the nation in the last 40 years or so from "i'm going to live the american dream, work hard, sacrifice and build a better life for me and my family" to "hey man, you owe me".

I agree. And the man responsible for that disease of individualism, selfishness and sheer greed, Uncle Ronnie, is a hero to Republicans.

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By the way,,, yeah, I object to lotteries and gambling made easy. I don't object to gambling when someone has to have a job, save money, buy a plane ticket, hotel rent a car to do it. I object to gambling when someone with kids to feed, who is broke, unemployed or on welfare can walk into a gas station and blow their money because they are too dumb to do the very simple math and because the state is telling them its OK, because its for a good cause.

My objection is that gambling generally targets (rips off) people who can least afford it, the poor and the desperate.

TheSquealer · 09-09-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

I agree. And the man responsible for that disease of individualism, selfishness and sheer greed, Uncle Ronnie, is a hero to Republicans.

Yes, Ronald Reagan had the idea to give every child a participation trophy no matter how bad they suck, lowered educational standards and produced tons of children's programming where the only message is "you're special" all while making sure black families have no fathers so both kids and fathers can reunite and spend quality time together in the worlds largest prison system which we all pay dearly for.

This nation had values. Today it has no values. Ronald Reagan's message was never "its not your fault".

Believing societal problems are either the fault of, or will be solved by a political party is silly.

Though I am pretty conservative in my thinking, I hardly think republicans are going to solve anything. Nor do I think the democrats are the cause of everything. In the grand scheme of things, we are talking about generational problems and when involving politics, trying to look at them in 4 year increments. The problems and root causes of the decline of an empire are never going to be found in the White House. The USA was founded and grown by people who were hungry for success. That was the national identity. Success was what it meant to be American. Today, that idea is dead. That hunger is gone and all that is left is people holding one hand out for donations as they use the other hand to point at anything and everything besides themselves for their position.

Paul Markham · 09-09-2012, 02:48 PM

Go read the article and see the video. http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/05/news...html?hpt=hp_t3

They could of found better examples.

Drake · 09-09-2012, 11:09 PM

Sly that's terrific!

papill0n · 09-09-2012, 11:17 PM

papill0n · 09-09-2012, 11:21 PM

party time is coming

the old madness will end

and a new madness will begin

CurrentlySober · 09-09-2012, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

Let them eat cake

You have aroused me....

_Richard_ · 09-10-2012, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

No problem!

Note: I eat actual serving sizes. Not the make-believe serving sizes that so many Americans do with their giant bowls and plates.

Breakfast: lets be simple and say oatmeal with raisins.
Oatmeal: http://www.samsclub.com/sams/quaker-....ip?navAction= $7.58, over 100 servings. Less than $0.075 per serving.
Raisins: http://www.samsclub.com/sams/sun-mai....ip?navAction= $7.98, 60 ounces. We'll add an ounce to our oatmeal. $0.13 per serving.
I like my oatmeal with water, not milk. But feel free to splash a little milk in. Maybe have a glass of milk as well. Let's add $.50 for your milk usage.
Breakfast total for the week: $4.94

Lunch: continuing on with simplicity, we'll say grilled chicken, rice, vegetables and water.
Chicken: http://www.samsclub.com/sams/daily-c....ip?navAction= $10.98, 24 servings. $0.46 per serving.
Vegetable, we'll do canned because it's more universal, but if you stay seasonal you can get good deals on fresh vegetables: http://www.samsclub.com/sams/del-mon....ip?navAction= $8.38, roughly 30 servings. $0.28 per serving
Rice: http://www.samsclub.com/sams/kraft-m...navAction=push $5.38 (you can get cheaper than this), 72 ounces, 36 servings. $0.15 per serving.
Lunch total for the week: $6.23

Money left for dinner: $8.83

Dinner: tilapia, bread, vegetable, fruit, water
Tilapia: http://www.samsclub.com/sams/treasur....ip?navAction= $12.98, 48 ounces. 12 servings. $1.08 per serving
Vegetable: http://www.samsclub.com/sams/del-mon....ip?navAction= $5.88, roughly 30 servings. $0.20 per serving
Fruit: http://www.samsclub.com/sams/bananas-3-lbs/156801.ip $1.47, 3 pounds, 12 bananas. $0.12 per banana
Bread: http://www.samsclub.com/sams/grant-s...navAction=push $3.98, 40 ounces, roughly 40 servings. $0.10 per serving.
Dinner total for the week: $10.50

Overall total: $21.67

Overbudget by $1.67. You can find better deals on fish and produce locally, usually chicken as well. Especially with coupons or at the discount grocery stores.

I'm not saying that I eat like this now, but I have in the past (for even less) and would have no problem doing so in the future if I had to. It's obviously nothing fancy, but it provides you with protein, fruit, vegetables, and healthy grains. It could probably use a little bit of fat somewhere, but overall not bad.

Active people would obviously need more calories, but if you are active, you can find a way to make more than $20 for food. ;-)

a dream..

Colo_bitch · 09-10-2012, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by papill0n

party time is coming

the old madness will end

and a new madness will begin

poetic indeed

09-09-2012, 12:19 PM	#51
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,101	Obviously we aren't going to agree. I'm not going to continue as i'm also working. I believe in helping people but I believe in the need for society to start holding people accountable for their behaviors and decisions. There needs to be standards and expectations. It's not OK with me for someone to pump out 6 kids by 25 as a single parent and expect me to pay for them. Solving poverty in the USA is a two way street. It requires the active participation of society and the individual who is poor. You can't make an addict sober by throwing money at him. He has to understand he has a problem, he has to understand what the problem is. He has to understand what the solution is. He has to understand he needs to change and then want to make that change. Walk down any street in the USA and tell a broke 25 year old that they don't need a new Iphone, expensive shoes, gold chains or nice wheels on their piece of shit car and see how far you get in changing people and their behaviors. The US has created a society of increasingly self entitled, irresponsible and unaccountable people that have dramatically shifted in their thinking which built the nation in the last 40 years or so from "i'm going to live the american dream, work hard, sacrifice and build a better life for me and my family" to "hey man, you owe me". .... By the way,,, yeah, I object to lotteries and gambling made easy. I don't object to gambling when someone has to have a job, save money, buy a plane ticket, hotel rent a car to do it. I object to gambling when someone with kids to feed, who is broke, unemployed or on welfare can walk into a gas station and blow their money because they are too dumb to do the very simple math and because the state is telling them its OK, because its for a good cause. __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard

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09-09-2012, 11:09 PM	#55
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Sly that's terrific!

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papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	party time is coming the old madness will end and a new madness will begin