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Old 09-15-2012, 04:13 PM   #51
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I agree with everyone that says it is jealousy. The true root of this hate stems from paysites' decline which yes was partially due to tube sites but the entire internet has shifted to free information. You had to see this coming with Google and other search engines getting better and better.
To clarify:
in your post you are talking about FREE content. People in this thread are talking about STOLEN content.
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:36 PM   #52
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During epassporte stolen funds times people were saying that even then mallic could be at a convention and most likely get drinks with others like nothing much happened
There are people in this biz who, even if their wives were raped by a "player", would merely shuffle their feet and then compliment the "player" on the size of his penis.

Reading some of the ass kissing on this board is enough to make the vomit rise.
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:39 PM   #53
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During epassporte stolen funds times people were saying that even then mallic could be at a convention and most likely get drinks with others like nothing much happened
Yeah, I'm aware.

Stealing money and buying a company who allegedly stole content are pretty different.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:23 PM   #54
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No one likes a thief.

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Simply put.

He's a thief. His business model is ran by stealing, and on top of it all, I believe he's a liar and loves to blow smoke up others asses.

When you spend money on advertising on the biggest torrent site in the world, that says a lot too.
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I think the adult industry needs to go back to innovating like it once did.
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It was not comparing. I am sure he agrees that genocide is 1000000 (or whatever number) worse than stolen content.
He shouldn't be using genocide to make a point about stolen content if he doesn't believe the two things are analogous. And look up the last word in that sentence, please, before replying again, because dealing with idiots with no clue about the meaning of simple words is tiresome.

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What's not to understand? One is worse than the other. Very complicated. The point was already made without the facile comparison to the Holocaust.
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:21 PM   #56
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It was not comparing. I am sure he agrees that genocide is 1000000 (or whatever number) worse than stolen content.
It was said to make a point, how can you not understand that is beyond comprehension..
I appreciate you deflecting the need for me to point out how silly the comment was, but I'll also admit that comparing ANYTHING to the holocaust is in poor taste. I selected it as a model because it's widely known, which I thought would be obvious. GFY, go figure.
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:18 PM   #57
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He is a content thief nothing more.
I admire and respect those who have huge success, but when you are successful from stealing or committing crimes against us hard working webmasters and contents shooters, you will be genuinely hated, for GOOD REASON.

Its like working for the Mafia, those who work for the mob are knowingly and willing to accept criminal money. So that actually by definition makes them a criminal just as well.

In all 50 states in the USA possession of stolen property is against the law. So when one is paid by Manwin/Fabian with our stolen money they are in possession and accepting stolen money.
I have a question. If it is known that he is a thief...why don't you or someone that he has stolen from file criminal charges?
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I think it was the perception that his business was built by leveraging stolen content. Right or wrong, I believe that's the reason.
In the court of public opinion Fabian is responsible for the proliferation of tube sites. Also, people generally hate success. Fabians likely just the front man now, with a larger trade group really running things. It doesn't help he comes off a little douchey on the boards, though.
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I have a question. If it is known that he is a thief...why don't you or someone that he has stolen from file criminal charges?
Fabian/Manwin uses the power of DMCA to his advantage.

They steal your content upload it to torrents and tubes until you take notice.
Once you send them a DMCA which you must first to do exhaust the legal remedies as outlined in copyright laws, all they do is remove the content in question so there can be no further legal action to take.

As long as they comply with your DMCA request, you cant touch them and they know this.

Your content may be on their tubes and torrents for days, weeks and months before you notice and send them a DMCA notice.
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Fabian/Manwin uses the power of DMCA to his advantage.

They steal your content upload it to torrents and tubes until you take notice.
Once you send them a DMCA which you must first to do exhaust the legal remedies as outlined in copyright laws, all they do is remove the content in question so there can be no further legal action to take.

As long as they comply with your DMCA request, you cant touch them and they know this.
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I don't hate Fabian. Personality wise he seems like a decent guy though at times he seems a little lax in the honesty department. It's his company or more likely the company he works for which I have severe issues with. I understand that he's probably following orders and working within the constraints given to him.

In fact I could easily forgive Manwin if they went fully legitimate and made a few heartfelt apologies with some restitution while also helping to join the fight against piracy within the industry.
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Fabian/Manwin uses the power of DMCA to his advantage.

They steal your content upload it to torrents and tubes until you take notice.
Once you send them a DMCA which you must first to do exhaust the legal remedies as outlined in copyright laws, all they do is remove the content in question so there can be no further legal action to take.

As long as they comply with your DMCA request, you cant touch them and they know this.

Your content may be on their tubes and torrents for days, weeks and months before you notice and send them a DMCA notice.
Yes. It would be much the same thing if the shoplifting laws were changed such that once caught all the thief has to do is once found guilty give back the stolen items (in whatever condition) in order to avoid conviction. The thief still would have free use of the items until the trial and is free to continually shoplift over and over as much as they like as long as they ultimately give back the items. The burden of proof would always be on you to show that the shoplifter actually intended to shoplift as opposed to just "accidentally" forgetting to pay for the items.

If this were the way it worked you could probably imagine how bad things would be for retail stores.
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Fabian/Manwin uses the power of DMCA to his advantage.

They steal your content upload it to torrents and tubes until you take notice.
Once you send them a DMCA which you must first to do exhaust the legal remedies as outlined in copyright laws, all they do is remove the content in question so there can be no further legal action to take.

As long as they comply with your DMCA request, you cant touch them and they know this.

Your content may be on their tubes and torrents for days, weeks and months before you notice and send them a DMCA notice.
We all use the law. Think about it before ripping in.
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Is it because he is a smart biz person or is it because he is way richer than 99% of people on GFY or has lots of babes and lots of bling ?

Haters gonna hate ......
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Jealousy looks terrible on you, yet you continue to wear it.
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They can just be jealous ...
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Is it because he is a smart biz person or is it because he is way richer than 99% of people on GFY or has lots of babes and lots of bling ?

Haters gonna hate ......
i dont hate him, he invented nats and we wouldn't have nats if not for him and I use it for my biz
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I think lots of HATERS here are very HYPOCRITE...

ManWin hired almost 1000 webmasters so far..

And most people who talk shit here, are broken losers that then go and apply for a position in manwin page's...

So... Fucking hypocrites suck, seriously.
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I think a lot of hate towards Fabian is jealousy.. pure and simple jelousy.. Why dont people hate Shap ? because he sold his program Twistys to them ...
end thread, kiss ass asked and answered his own question.
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maybe it has to do with every company he buys their ratio goes to shit over night. No that couldn't be it either everyone is just
jealous because he is rich and everyone hates all other rich people too just cause they have lots of money.
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Fabian could add his "Life in porn story" here. https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1081930

I'll create a fantasy section for him.
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You keep posting but no one gets it I think besides me... Er I should say, you are 100% correct sir.

Instead of posting these tid bits - Make the full post broken down from the start of the scareware to the end of the laundering trail where the 350 mil + resides now, it's own thread, DO IT!!
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You keep posting but no one gets it I think besides me... Er I should say, you are 100% correct sir.

Instead of posting these tid bits - Make the full post broken down from the start of the scareware to the end of the laundering trail where the 350 mil + resides now, it's own thread, DO IT!!
i just read that all and don't understand, are you saying that Fabian was involved with spyware and used that to start nats?
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i just read that all and don't understand, are you saying that Fabian was involved with spyware and used that to start nats?
Not even close, lets see if xXXtesy10 will come through.
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You keep posting but no one gets it I think besides me... Er I should say, you are 100% correct sir.

Instead of posting these tid bits - Make the full post broken down from the start of the scareware to the end of the laundering trail where the 350 mil + resides now, it's own thread, DO IT!!
http://www.cyberwarzone.com/cyberwar...fbi-20k-reward

No one has even posted a comment.

So for those who don't know, what's the link to Manwin?
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There is no link.

It's bullshit.

Bump for Fabian and his great programs we all push.
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There is no link.

It's bullshit.
It seems you are right about no link.
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It's bullshit.

Bump for Fabian and his great programs we all push.
Yes... Sure thing bro.
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Instead of posting these tid bits - Make the full post broken down from the start of the scareware to the end of the laundering trail where the 350 mil + resides now, it's own thread, DO IT!!
OH I get it from Fabians own mouth: (on Oprano)

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Old 09-18-2012, 01:28 PM   #93
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one day someone will slip and this whole money trail will unravel....straight to a federal prison is my guess
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:01 PM   #94
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OH I get it from Fabians own mouth: (on Oprano)

"I started Porntrack.com together with sUdden a little bit before sextracker started their counter. Thats all I really did back then."

sUdden being of course Sundin
If that's all. Then it's not much.
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:14 PM   #95
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If that's all. Then it's not much.

He was involved with Porngraph, which so happen to get "sold" and then after that Nats started.

You were around then, you should know the rest of the details.
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:41 PM   #96
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OH I get it from Fabians own mouth: (on Oprano)

"I started Porntrack.com together with sUdden a little bit before sextracker started their counter. Thats all I really did back then."

sUdden being of course Sundin
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:44 AM   #97
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I don't hate Fabian. Personality wise he seems like a decent guy though at times he seems a little lax in the honesty department. It's his company or more likely the company he works for which I have severe issues with. I understand that he's probably following orders and working within the constraints given to him.

In fact I could easily forgive Manwin if they went fully legitimate and made a few heartfelt apologies with some restitution while also helping to join the fight against piracy within the industry.
Personally I don't want to join a "hate or like" discussion about people. For me it is never personnal, strictly business.

Manwin by the way is helping the fight against piracy. By themselves and I think I heard someone mentionning he is supporting AK. Not sure, maybe AK can jump in here. I know for a fact he is supporting the aciuf. With a substantial amount, without asking for immunity or what so ever.

PS Hate is a very netagive emotion
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:49 AM   #98
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He was involved with Porngraph, which so happen to get "sold" and then after that Nats started.

You were around then, you should know the rest of the details.
Didn't read everything.

http://malwaresurvival.wordpress.com...ive-marketing/

I see that Jain, Sundin and IM are criminals.

Porngraph was owned bu John Albright. https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=4027081&postcount=32 Not sure or accusing him of being responsible. for any bad doing.

So can you give me real info and proof please.

I'm no ass licker of Fabian. Just asking for real info.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:59 AM   #99
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one day someone will slip and this whole money trail will unravel....straight to a federal prison is my guess
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