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jscott · 10-05-2012, 07:03 AM

Yo man, do you think it's time we snatch up his rookie card? how much does his Gem Mint Upper Deck go for?

Dollarmansteve · 10-08-2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Phil

Do you understand this?

In the Last 45 years

30-50 club - 2 players
Triple Crown - 0 players

in the last 25 years

30-50 club - 2 players
Triple Crown - 0 players EVER

quit comparing 2012 to 1942, in the years when guys were winning triple crowns, the stolen base leader for the entire league was averaging 25 steals a year, Today (over the last 20 years) that number is 65 SB's, in the 80's the average was over 90 SB's a year for the leader (in both the AL and NL)

in the modern era, which I consider the time since Paul Markham started shooting, 2 people went 30-50, 0 won the triple crown, it is hands down a bigger accomplishment.

Unfortunately the Triple Crown isn't a stat, it's simply a cherry-picked, made up thing that has little relevance to the advanced world of baseball statistics in 2012. The triple crown is just a relic from the early 20th century when people knew nothing about the correlation between statistics and their impact on teams winning games. They should make a "triple crown award" and give some big fancy trophy to anyone who wins the triple crown, but it's just ignorant to award the MVP (most valuable to team) award by DEFAULT to someone because they achieve a made-up individual feat. Miguel Cabrera is a lock for the "Guy Who led the league in HRs, RBIs and BA Award" (which doesn't exist) but is in no way a lock for MVP.

Another point: If the MVP is SOLELY driven on statistics, then why is there voting? A computer should just decide who wins MVP based on statistics.

On BOTH sides of the argument, Cabrera is hardly a lock for MVP:

Case A: MVP is subjective, taking into account statistics and the players contribution to his team's success

- The case could be made that Trout is MORE valuable to the angels than cabrera is to the tigers, which is why he will get MVP votes.

Case B: MVP is solely based on statistics

- Since "triple crown" isn't a stat, and given the breadth of stats available and how they show correlation between a player's performance and the contribution to team wins, it could easily be argued that Trout is statistically superior to Cabrera.

Case C: MVP is awarded automatically to someone who leads the league in HRs, RBIs and average (I call this the "Stupid" case)

- Cabrera wins hands down, no need for voting.

Yo Adrian · 10-18-2012, 08:47 AM

How cool is it that Cabrera could play in the world series the same season he won the triple crown.

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