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Old 10-14-2012, 05:28 AM   #1
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AWE Affiliate Program

Hi, just looking for advice on AWE. I'm just setting up a site and would be interested in getting signed up with AWE. Just wondering 1: is it easy to sign up? 2: My website will be new so limited content and traffic initially, would that be a problem? I'm sure Ill think of other things too. Thanks
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:08 AM   #2
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Thanks for the advice. Any reason why or any suggestions for alternatives?
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don't waste your time, fair advice
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Hi, just looking for advice on AWE. I'm just setting up a site and would be interested in getting signed up with AWE. Just wondering 1: is it easy to sign up?
Have you tried? www.awempire.com

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Only in that if you don't have visitors, there'll be nobody to sign up. It won't be a problem in terms of signing up.

AWE gets a lot of criticism now, though in the past it used to have lots of fanboys. Best way is to try it for yourself and see.

You will get very little unbiased or useful advice here. People (other than official site reps) will usually just respond with a referral link to some crap they can't make money on themselves, hoping you might make some money from which they get a percentage.

Here are some alternatives to AWE/Livejasmin:

www.cams.com
www.imlive.com
www.streamate.com
www.chaturbate.com

Scroll to the bottom for their Affiliates/Make Money/Webmasters signup link.

Remember, what works for someone else (or what they pretend works, so you click their referral link) won't necessarily work for you, because you'll have a different site, with different traffic, so the only way to find out is to try different sites/programs. Obviously, put ads on your site that are related to the content/theme of your site, or the interests of your likely visitors.

BTW, buying traffic to convert to sales is a waste of money. If the traffic was good enough, or human enough, to convert it would not be for sale.

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haha thanks for the link to awe, yes I have looked. Just wondered if they had a policy of not allowing new sites etc. I'll probably give it a go tomorrow.

Also, thanks for the links to other affiliates. I'm hoping to have multiple pages, so will look at having multiple affiliates. I take it that wouldn't be a problem.

You mention streamate there, I have heard that that programme is difficult to get on to? I'm sure I read a thread about it on here a week or two ago.

Again, many thanks for helping out. Info is very useful.
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haha thanks for the link to awe, yes I have looked. Just wondered if they had a policy of not allowing new sites etc. I'll probably give it a go tomorrow.

Also, thanks for the links to other affiliates. I'm hoping to have multiple pages, so will look at having multiple affiliates. I take it that wouldn't be a problem.

You mention streamate there, I have heard that that programme is difficult to get on to? I'm sure I read a thread about it on here a week or two ago.

Again, many thanks for helping out. Info is very useful.
Hello mospunk, and welcome on board!

Hit me up on icq or skype to talk about your site and the program.
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haha thanks for the link to awe, yes I have looked. Just wondered if they had a policy of not allowing new sites etc. I'll probably give it a go tomorrow.
TBH, I seriously doubt any major program even bothers to check the site, or any other info for that matter, that you put on the form.

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Also, thanks for the links to other affiliates. I'm hoping to have multiple pages, so will look at having multiple affiliates. I take it that wouldn't be a problem.
Nope.

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You mention streamate there, I have heard that that programme is difficult to get on to? I'm sure I read a thread about it on here a week or two ago.
That's just people complaining about Whitelabels. The regular Streamate affiliate program, via the link on their page, is as easy to get on to as any other.

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NP. Good luck.

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Hello mospunk, and welcome on board!

Hit me up on icq or skype to talk about your site and the program.
Hi Brad, thanks. I'll drop you an email with some details. cheers
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TBH, I seriously doubt any major program even bothers to check the site, or any other info for that matter, that you put on the form.



Nope.



That's just people complaining about Whitelabels. The regular Streamate affiliate program, via the link on their page, is as easy to get on to as any other.



NP. Good luck.
Thanks again. Great to get some info from people who've got experience. Its a new venture for me so will be on a steep learning curve
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BTW, buying traffic to convert to sales is a waste of money. If the traffic was good enough, or human enough, to convert it would not be for sale.
Just ran the numbers, the top traffic broker I am using provided slightly over 38% of my total cam income this year. If you track each of your traffic buys whether broker, individual site buy, etc... very easy to see weekly/monthly/yearly what is working and what isn't. Drop shit that isn't working and increase spending to what is. Streamate white labels are fully trackable and the reason I use them as I can provide exact income/signups for every traffic purchase I have ever done. Buying traffic without sales/sign up tracking is foolish just like saying all bought traffic is useless
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Hi, just looking for advice on AWE. I'm just setting up a site and would be interested in getting signed up with AWE. Just wondering 1: is it easy to sign up? 2: My website will be new so limited content and traffic initially, would that be a problem? I'm sure Ill think of other things too. Thanks
Hi mospunk,
I started using AWEmpire about 3 weeks ago on my website and only have about 15 unique visitors a day, but made my firts $2.17 yesterday.

I had about the same question as you and posted if anyone had some experience with their affiliate program, but no-one seemed to bother answering.

I'm using their white-label-program and all seems to be working fine.
You can customize is quite a bit, so for now I'm happy with it.

My cam-site is the 2nd one in my signature.

If people have other experiences with it or have better programs, I'm open for suggestions
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Can you explain why?
If someone's sig is 583497 times bigger than their post, what they write isn't even worth reading.

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If people have other experiences with it or have better programs, I'm open for suggestions
The best program is simply the one that works for you. All you'll get asking that question is spammed referral links, not honest advice. If AWE is working for you, don't 'fix' it by changing it to something someone posted just to get you signed up under them. How'd you get $2.17, BTW?
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Check, this. Way better than AWE... And pays for free signups, which is good for your starter site..
You can also create whitelabels like in AWE, etc,
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If someone's sig is 583497 times bigger than their post, what they write isn't even worth reading.
Yeah, I was kinda thinking the same, but maybe he had bad experience with AWE. Since I am totally new in this business, like some others here, I still was a bit curious.

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The best program is simply the one that works for you. All you'll get asking that question is spammed referral links, not honest advice. If AWE is working for you, don't 'fix' it by changing it to something someone posted just to get you signed up under them. How'd you get $2.17, BTW?
Somebody signed up through my website and spend about $14, which made me $2.17
I'm happy with my first earnings.....
You have to start somewhere right?!
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Check, this. Way better than AWE... And pays for free signups, which is good for your starter site..
You can also create whitelabels like in AWE, etc,
Thnx! Will look in to it!

What is it that makes BongaCash way better if I might ask?
Is it because they pay for free signups, or is there more to it
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Yeah, I was kinda thinking the same, but maybe he had bad experience with AWE. Since I am totally new in this business, like some others here, I still was a bit curious.
I'm not really a fan of AWE myself, and never have been, even when people were lining up to suck them off, as they did in the past, but I wouldn't tell someone not to do something based on my experience, because everyone's sites and traffic is different. Best to see for yourself which is best.

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Somebody signed up through my website and spend about $14, which made me $2.17
I'm happy with my first earnings.....
You have to start somewhere right?!
That's very true. 15% revshare is a bit of a joke, but carry on with AWE and see how it goes, because even if another cam site has bigger revshare percentage, it means nothing if it doesn't convert for you like AWE does. But do try other sites too, if possible alongside your AWE site, and compare their performance.
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Thnx! Will look in to it!

What is it that makes BongaCash way better if I might ask?
Is it because they pay for free signups, or is there more to it
It is new and growing fast, i believe it is interesting to the users. there are promotions every now and then, so users tend to sign up and they are engaged to do something on site to get a reward, etc. I was in the testing period early 2012 till last month and there have been lots of changes. I am glad it survived and btw converts well.

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Thnx! Will look in to it!

What is it that makes BongaCash way better if I might ask?
Is it because they pay for free signups, or is there more to it
IMHO, sites that pay $1 or $1.50 per signup are not worth sending traffic to unless you strongly believe the traffic you are sending is useless. If you send traffic that might get you a $50+ PPS on another site, or revshare, you'd be insane to give it away for $1.50.

Another thing to bear in mind is that the $1.50 is limited to a few countries. See: http://bongacash.com/pay_per_email

Having said that, if you had a lot of traffic from those countries that you knew or thought would be unlikely to sign up to a paid account (and thus earn you a high PPS or revshare elsewhere), it would be a potentially easy way to make some money.

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I didn't see any affiliate link on their site
He means do it via www.crakrevenue.com
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Check, this[/URL]. Way better than AWE... And pays for free signups, which is good for your starter site..
You can also create whitelabels like in AWE, etc,
Thanks, will take a look
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Ah ok. Lots to look at!
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Don't give up easily.

Converting cams can be a bitch and depressing at the beginning if you expect instant results.
But if you persist, test and test and find the right cam product for your site / traffic you will get
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Good luck and definitely don't pass up on Crakrevenue.
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www.chaturbate.com
It is rare to see anyone posting links without affiliate ID in GFY, I am sincerely impressed by your post. Except that you did not listed our program too, but I can see you missed to list other 20+ cam programs, not just ours, so it is ok.

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IMHO, sites that pay $1 or $1.50 per signup are not worth sending traffic to unless you strongly believe the traffic you are sending is useless. If you send traffic that might get you a $50+ PPS on another site, or revshare, you'd be insane to give it away for $1.50.
The programs are making offers just because someone wants to use them. If there's someone who wants per lead payments, we offer it, why not? As a program we got both a pay per free (not 1.00 or 1.50 per lead, it is 50 cents + minutes watched later"leech share" like file lockers, average ends yo about same 1.00/1.50).
Someone who sends traffic to per free gets sales at times, so if they had it in PPS mode had made more money. But that's affiliate's choice to think they sent non converting traffic. At same time who uses the PPS can be angry they got $0 as no sales but with 100 free signups made they would have been paid instead. Dream program could be one where you send traffic, then later when you see stats, you can decide to switch the link program mode pay per free or PPS, depending how paid more
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IMHO, sites that pay $1 or $1.50 per signup are not worth sending traffic to unless you strongly believe the traffic you are sending is useless. If you send traffic that might get you a $50+ PPS on another site, or revshare, you'd be insane to give it away for $1.50.
Well, maybe I'm wrong but I don't think they paid me for the user signing up, but I get x% of what that user spends on their network.
So I keep earning money on that user if he would keep coming back and keeps spending right?
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Exactly. I did think of other sites, who post here, but there's so many I knew I'd always forget/miss someone. So to be unfairly fair I just stuck to the 'major' ones.

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The programs are making offers just because someone wants to use them. If there's someone who wants per lead payments, we offer it, why not? As a program we got both a pay per free (not 1.00 or 1.50 per lead, it is 50 cents + minutes watched later"leech share" like file lockers, average ends yo about same 1.00/1.50).
Someone who sends traffic to per free gets sales at times, so if they had it in PPS mode had made more money. But that's affiliate's choice to think they sent non converting traffic. At same time who uses the PPS can be angry they got $0 as no sales but with 100 free signups made they would have been paid instead.
I agree. I'm not criticizing the 'pay per free' model, more choices are better, just saying you have to know where the traffic is coming from, and what kind it is, spenders or not, to know where to send it, so you don't waste it.

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Well, maybe I'm wrong but I don't think they paid me for the user signing up, but I get x% of what that user spends on their network.
So I keep earning money on that user if he would keep coming back and keeps spending right?
Yep, correct. That's how it works with all sites though, with 'lifetime revshare', not just AWE. Also, with AWE, although the base revshare is 15%, it seems the more you make, the bigger the percentage you'll get. And it all snowballs, with money from 'old' signups and new. So presumably your percentage with AWE will inevitably increase, unless they have some small print.

That's why a lot of people say revshare is better than PPS. I'm not one of those people though, especially with a high, but not ridiculous/unbelievable, PPS. (If you don't trust the PPS is legit, there's no reason to think the revshare will be legit either.)

Revshare is better than a high PPS if you get long term big spenders, but not if you get low, infrequent spenders, or those who move on after a few weeks. I'm not sure if AWE does PPS on their WL though.

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.....Yep, correct. That's how it works with all sites though, with 'lifetime revshare', not just AWE. Also, with AWE, although the base revshare is 15%, it seems the more you make, the bigger the percentage you'll get. And it all snowballs, with money from 'old' signups and new. So presumably your percentage with AWE will inevitably increase, unless they have some small print.

That's why a lot of people say revshare is better than PPS. I'm not one of those people though, especially with a high, but not ridiculous/unbelievable, PPS. (If you don't trust the PPS is legit, there's no reason to think the revshare will be legit either.)

Revshare is better than a high PPS if you get long term big spenders, but not if you get low, infrequent spenders, or those who move on after a few weeks. I'm not sure if AWE does PPS on their WL though.
To be honest: I didn't even know the difference between revshare and PPS
But yes, AWE also does PPS on their white-label.

I just read 1-2 sign-ups per period are $150 and 3-10 are $200. Do you think that is legit?
If so: I think I'll switch to PPS for a while!

People, thnx for all help and suggestions!
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To be honest: I didn't even know the difference between revshare and PPS
But yes, AWE also does PPS on their white-label.

I just read 1-2 sign-ups per period are $150 and 3-10 are $200. Do you think that is legit?
If so: I think I'll switch to PPS for a while!

People, thnx for all help and suggestions!
Be careful, their PPS may have strings attached. Pretty sure when they brought out their $222 the rule was it only counted for $29 signups. Of course they had a $19 signup, which didn't count and is likely to have been a lot more popular. Since their PPS is (what I would consider) a ridiculous $300 (or $150-$200, if you say, for WL), then it's likely they have the same policy.

You have to be realistic though, and wonder if they can really afford to give $300 for every signup. So if they have rules where it's just for $29 signups (or whatever), then maybe that's fair enough, because even if you get two or three a month, it's pretty good.

The signup you got will have to spend about $1400 before you got $200 from him. That's by no means beyond the realm of possibility, but it will still probably take at least a few months. Though you'll hopefully be accumulating more sales during that time.

Maybe PPS and revshare average out as the same, but you could look at PPS as faster cash. With PPS you only get paid once, but it's a bigger amount, whereas with revshare, even if you get a big spending customer who eventually makes you more than PPS, it will take a lot longer for you to receive it. Because you're getting it bit by bit, as he spends.

Maybe wait a week or two, and if the guy you have hasn't bought more credit (which you'll know, because you'll be credited if he does), try PPS. But as I said, you may not be eligible for those PPS rates for a signup of ~$14. So you may have got nothing from him on PPS, or a lower rate, like $40. You'd have to check their T&C.
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Be careful, their PPS may have strings attached. Pretty sure when they brought out their $222 the rule was it only counted for $29 signups. Of course they had a $19 signup, which didn't count and is likely to have been a lot more popular. Since their PPS is (what I would consider) a ridiculous $300 (or $150-$200, if you say, for WL), then it's likely they have the same policy.

You have to be realistic though, and wonder if they can really afford to give $300 for every signup. So if they have rules where it's just for $29 signups (or whatever), then maybe that's fair enough, because even if you get two or three a month, it's pretty good.

The signup you got will have to spend about $1400 before you got $200 from him. That's by no means beyond the realm of possibility, but it will still probably take at least a few months. Though you'll hopefully be accumulating more sales during that time.

Maybe PPS and revshare average out as the same, but you could look at PPS as faster cash. With PPS you only get paid once, but it's a bigger amount, whereas with revshare, even if you get a big spending customer who eventually makes you more than PPS, it will take a lot longer for you to receive it. Because you're getting it bit by bit, as he spends.

Maybe wait a week or two, and if the guy you have hasn't bought more credit (which you'll know, because you'll be credited if he does), try PPS. But as I said, you may not be eligible for those PPS rates for a signup of ~$14. So you may have got nothing from him on PPS, or a lower rate, like $40. You'd have to check their T&C.
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Be careful, their PPS may have strings attached. Pretty sure when they brought out their $222 the rule was it only counted for $29 signups. Of course they had a $19 signup, which didn't count and .........

...... a signup of ~$14. So you may have got nothing from him on PPS, or a lower rate, like $40. You'd have to check their T&C.
Thnx for all the help. It's much appreciated!
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Hi Axel, I took a look at the website and it says invite only?
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Hi Axel, I took a look at the website and it says invite only?
No its public , but now we manually approved account, no more free pass like in the past..

Just go to the register process..

When its done, you can drop me a mail, and i can approve myself, or if not, the affiliate manager will in the upcoming days...

thanks for your interest
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