Congrats to Manwin! Benefactor if the year

[xXXtesy10]

http://www.xbiz.com/news/155909

[Redrob]

Congratulations.

[mikke]

nice, congrats!

[DWB]

Benefactor of the Year ? Manwin

This award is given to a company that not only helps break the myths and misinformation about the adult industry through its contributions, but also assists in protecting the industry from legislative threats, industry-wide exploitation, business risks, and industry critics.

Good thing they are protecting everyone from industry-wide exploitation and business risks. Can't imagine what we'd all do without them and their sites...

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[mikesouth]

LOL I can only take so much hypocrisy this is such a joke.....

[mikesouth]

For a donation of 75K plus 50K per month you too can buy an FSC Award

[L-Pink]

Fuck manwin.

[Penny24Seven]

I read the board just enough to say WTF

[GAMEFINEST]

what award is this lol

[Major (Tom)]

fuck xbiz.
ds

[alias]

Looks legit.

[BIGTYMER]

Pffttt.. Laughable.

[Paul Markham]

And the award means shit.

[asscracker]

absolutely

[lucas131]

all the awards are just a joke anyway

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

For a donation of 75K plus 50K per month you too can buy an FSC Award

Why buy an FSC award if it's so much cheaper to buy an XBiz one?

[Paul Markham]

[CaptainHowdy]

[waltgator]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Fuck manwin.

exactly!

[fitzmulti]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

For a donation of 75K plus 50K per month you too can buy an FSC Award

For a lot less than that we can all make up our own joke awards.
;-)

Originally Posted by DamageX

Why buy an FSC award if it's so much cheaper to buy an XBiz one?

[Screwed Up]

What!?!

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

fuck xbiz.
ds

I guess you summed it up nicely.

[candyflip]

So it's safe to say that Manwin is XBiz's biggest advertiser?

[Captain Kawaii]

We should come up with our version of the IG-Nobel Awards.

Best Pirates of the Year

Most Unethical Lawyer

Best Skim Off the Top Program

xbiz is pretty pathetic at this point. Too bad.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by DWB

Good thing they are protecting everyone from industry-wide exploitation and business risks. Can't imagine what we'd all do without them and their sites...

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Tube8
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Xtube
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That's nice of them to donate money that they made off the backs of the content producers they stole from.

1. Steal everyone's content and build up huge traffic.
2. Cripple everyone by making their content worthless for their paysites by giving it away for free.
3. Monetize the tens of millions of unique visitors drawn by that stolen content.
4. Buy the crippled companies for pennies on the dollar.
5. Donate chump change and get awards from the industry that is crippled.
6. LOL at all of the idiots kissing ass and sucking up.
7. ???

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Robbie

That's nice of them to donate money that they made off the backs of the content producers they stole from.

1. Steal everyone's content and build up huge traffic.
2. Cripple everyone by making their content worthless for their paysites by giving it away for free.
3. Monetize the tens of millions of unique visitors drawn by that stolen content.
4. Buy the crippled companies for pennies on the dollar.
5. Donate chump change and get awards from the industry that is crippled.
6. LOL at all of the idiots kissing ass and sucking up.
7. ???

7. ???

Nope you pretty much covered it in 1 thru 6.

[Redrob]

7. Realize this truth, organize and develop a viable alternative network to oppose Manwin's domination.
8. Restore the "Golden Days of Porn" to the alternative's participants.
9. Pull up the rest of the industry to prosperity by showing the way.
10. Remember where you first read this.

Remember, to lead, follow, or get the fuck out of the way.

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

xbiz is pretty pathetic at this point.

"At this point"? They've always been pathetic, nothing but a second-grade AVN wannabe. Not that AVN is much better nowadays, just sayin'.

[halfpint]

congrats to manwin

[topnotch, standup guy]

Originally Posted by halfpint

congrats to manwin

You really need to wash that brown stuff off of your lips and nose. It stinks.




.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Redrob

7. Realize this truth, organize and develop a viable alternative network to oppose Manwin's domination.
8. Restore the "Golden Days of Porn" to the alternative's participants.
9. Pull up the rest of the industry to prosperity by showing the way.
10. Remember where you first read this.

Remember, to lead, follow, or get the fuck out of the way.

11. For most it's over.
12. Time to look elsewhere.
13. Check CV.
14. Start answering Situations Vacant ads.

Don't fool yourselves. The trend in your earnings isn't going to turn around.

It happens with most start up industries. The small guys get in and some become big and then they take over. The odds on competing with them are slim to none unless you're doing something the big guys can't take over.

Dating = WILL go 90% free. I think that's a conservative number.
Web Cams = Are a small section of the business and will never support the huge recorded porn business.
Recorded Porn = A few mega sites will hold out. They will have the cash to survive and can cut costs when the down turn hits them.
Mobile Phones = Kids know they can convert videos from their computers and share.

Low Band Width costs made it possible for sites to give away huge amounts of porn and support the operation by adverts and a few sign ups. And a lot of those bitching were raking it in giving away as much porn as they could back in the TGP days. TGPs ruined the magazine industry. Did any of you care? No you sat and gloated and told everyone you were the new kids on the block and the magazines didn't get it and couldn't "market online. Yes they couldn't give away more free porn than anyone else.

Online porn over charged and ripped off customers with little thought or care. Most thought it would never end. File Lockers show you the costs of downloading and promoting porn. What does it cost via a Piracy site to download 100 GB? They are promoted by affiliates and the add ons are a decent design, CMS, Site and Content.

A porn membership should of cost a lot less. you built a system where some affiliates got very rich. By over charging, ripping off or straight conning customers. Would you buy from an industry that treated you so badly?

Yes use the excuse that File lockers don't pay for content. Some top Bros here paid $15,000 per site for their product. Then came on here and told everyone they were making 1,000 sign ups a month. Over the space of a year $1.25 per $30 sign up. Around $15 per sign up went to the affiliates section of the business.

Well done, you killed the Goose that laid your Golden Eggs. How many of you have donated to Stop File Lockers? Manwin have.

It's called business guys and in an unregulated business like online porn, seriously what did you expect.

[topnotch, standup guy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

11. For most it's over.
12. Time to look elsewhere.
13. Check CV.
14. Start answering Situations Vacant ads.

Blah, blah, blah...

Oh look. It's Captain Bringdown again.

Go back to your room Paul and close the door.

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

You really need to wash that brown stuff off of your lips and nose. It stinks.
.

your so sexy when you get angry wanna do cam to cam

[topnotch, standup guy]

Originally Posted by halfpint

your so sexy when you get angry wanna do cam to cam

Not angry, just nauseated and a little bit saddened too.

Nothing personal but watching human beings grovel like beaten dogs has always had that effect on me.

.

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

Not angry, just nauseated and a little bit saddened too.

Nothing personal but watching human beings grovel like beaten dogs has always had that effect on me.

.

Yeah I know where you are comming from. I used to be the same but now I really just dont care anymore. Since iv been in porn Iv seen so much hypocrisy, bullshit, backstabbing and scamming. When it comes to big companys like Manwin no matter what is said on a forum about them they are huge and have a lot of traffic and $$ and they are not going to go away anytime soon. I bet half the affiliates, program owners and other who bitch about them work with them. Its sad but its true.

BTW I have nothing personel against you either. I think you do a great job... now can we cam to cam

[topnotch, standup guy]

Originally Posted by halfpint

Yeah I know where you are comming from. I used to be the same but now I really just dont care anymore. Since iv been in porn Iv seen so much hypocrisy, bullshit, backstabbing and scamming. When it comes to big companys like Manwin no matter what is said on a forum about them they are huge and have a lot of traffic and $$ and they are not going to go away anytime soon. I bet half the affiliates, program owners and other who bitch about them work with them. Its sad but its true.

Now you're starting to sound more like the halfpint I remember.

Yeah, this place is full of hypocrites, bullshitters, backstabbers and scammers. But there's still some honest people here too. And you don't have to be a Rhodes Scholar to guess which ones are up to their necks in piracy nowadays.

Manwin's big, but that doesn't mean we have suck up to them.

You being a Brit, you should know better than most the difference between a Churchill and a Chamberlain... or a Mosley.

The halfpint I remember sure as hell knew the difference.
.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by candyflip

So it's safe to say that Manwin is XBiz's biggest advertiser?

The Manwin award was from Free Speech Coalition (FSC) not XBIZ

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by Stephen

The Manwin award was from Free Speech Coalition (FSC) not XBIZ

XBiz still sucks. And I'm not the only one who thinks so.

When is the time of year you guys sell off all of your awards?

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Redrob

7. Realize this truth, organize and develop a viable alternative network to oppose Manwin's domination.

I tried. Even with my 760 credit score and an excellent business plan, I could not find anyone to loan me $400 million dollars to buy porn sites.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by halfpint

Yeah I know where you are comming from. I used to be the same but now I really just dont care anymore. Since iv been in porn Iv seen so much hypocrisy, bullshit, backstabbing and scamming. When it comes to big companys like Manwin no matter what is said on a forum about them they are huge and have a lot of traffic and $$ and they are not going to go away anytime soon. I bet half the affiliates, program owners and other who bitch about them work with them. Its sad but its true.

BTW I have nothing personel against you either. I think you do a great job... now can we cam to cam

All I see here is a bunch of people griping because they are being put out of a job or earning less. Back in the 2000, if BW had dropped in price or 2008 it would of happened earlier. Most would of done the exact same thing and if they didn't, they would of been bleating then like they are now.

No one shed a tear for me, when you ruined magazines with your free porn. So don't expect me to cry for those losing to Manwin.

I don't blame Manwin for rising to the top, I have always disliked free porn, because it costs sales. I also dislike them for being such a closed book and mystery.

[billywatson]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I don't blame Manwin for rising to the top, I have always disliked free porn, because it costs sales. I also dislike them for being such a closed book and mystery.

Benefactor of the Year.

Free porn? Fuck that...if they licensed the free porn they posted all over their tubes, that would be one thing. But to rip it off and then get this award is offensive.

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by Stephen

The Manwin award was from Free Speech Coalition (FSC) not XBIZ

Slick way to dodge the question.

[PornMD]

Originally Posted by DWB

Good thing they are protecting everyone from industry-wide exploitation and business risks. Can't imagine what we'd all do without them and their sites...

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That's what amazes me when everyone is on their dick when they do "good things for the industry". They are doing good things for the industry because they basically stole the industry. Self-serving and shuts some shallow people up about them at the same time - brilliant really.

Seriously, as more of an outside observer of this industry (selling adult domains comprises about 1% of my biz), I feel really sad when I see Manwin "doing something good" and the majority of response here being praise and a sort of ADD forgetfulness that they've been screwing you all for years.

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

http://www.xbiz.com/news/155909

so it's not damian and paul ?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by billywatson

Benefactor of the Year.

Free porn? Fuck that...if they licensed the free porn they posted all over their tubes, that would be one thing. But to rip it off and then get this award is offensive.

That would be the moral and ethical thing to do.

Like it would be moral and ethical if we as an industry didn't smother free sites with hard core porn so kids can view it. Or doesn't that count?

All of a sudden I see a lot of bleating from people not because Manwin are playing exactly by the law. As far as we know. But because they're making less money.

The law is quite clear on this, if it's user uploaded all tubes are in the clear until they receive a DMCA notice. If they remove the content they are within the law, if they don't the lawyers are waiting.

OK they bought an award, big deal. Awards have been sold for longer than any of us have been alive. FSC have made their choice and others can make theirs and not give to FSC. Not that many here do.

Ultimately the bitching comes down they give more free porn away than anyone else and get all the traffic. They're reducing the pot for everyone and increasing it for them.

Did any of you shed a tear for the demise of offline or the prices offline shooters were paid? No that's all a big joke here. Well it seems there's a new joke and this time it's on the rest of you. Why no laughter?

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

they would of been bleating then like they are now.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

All of a sudden I see a lot of bleating from people

Today's Paul Markham word: "bleating"

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Today's Paul Markham word: "bleating"

You were giving away as much as you could a few years back. To get as much traffic as you could then. You worked covered by the First Amendment. You didn't care about the moral and ethical so if Kids logged in, not your problem. Blame the parents.

did you care about offline porn or shooters who didn't move with the times?

So now someone is giving away more porn than you can and getting all the traffic. AND THEY DO IT WITHIN THE LAW. And all you can reply is with a taunt. Recorded porn for most will go the way magazines will go. As I said the joke is now on those who use to laugh.