Foxxy Cash - Lacey Foxx Affiliate Program (ZERO) Rebills

[TheSenator]

http://foxxycash.com

This post is for the sole intention of correcting this problem within the CCBill settings for Foxxy Cash.

Foxxy Cash has her setting to never rebill. Am I correct?

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[Nasty]

that's what it means, I check ccbill sponsors every few months and always find 1 or 2 that changed payout options. Supposed to get an email when payouts have been changed but I have only gotten 1 from ccbill in the past 2 years while 20 different sponsors have changed payouts in the same amount of time.

[Pseudonymous]

Wow thats shady.

Surprised they didn't go their own processing so they could really screw people over.

[TheSenator]

Originally Posted by Pseudonymous

Wow thats shady.

Surprised they didn't go their own processing so they could really screw people over.

As far as I understand, she and her partner are trying to run their affiliate program on their own.

I think they just need a little guidance.

[Nicky]

That means that you wont even get paid if your trial converts right?

So the most you can make is either a % of the trial price or a % of the first month.

[Pseudonymous]

Originally Posted by TheSenator

As far as I understand, she and her partner are trying to run their affiliate program on their own.

I think they just need a little guidance.

When setting up the program, its a simple option that is pretty straight forward and im pretty sure default would be 99 or whatever unlimited is. (from what i recall) - So im trying to understand how you can accidentally make it so affiliates dont get paid for any rebills?

If they got that wrong, they should just give up now, surprised they managed to get the programs site all functional then.

Sorry I just absolutely hate when models attempt to do these sites on their own, not only can some of the best program owners in this niche barely launch a site in 2012, you got models attempting it by themselves. She won't see a fraction of the money she could if she went with a proper program.

[Mutt]

you're not too bright for a senator. look at the affiliate site - big graphics, 50% ONSALES(great design work, onsales is one word) three times, do you see any 50% ON REBILLS anywhere? she doesn't think affiliates deserve a cut of rebills. there's no mistake.

generic fake boobed blonde anyway.

[TheSenator]

Originally Posted by Mutt

you're not too bright for a senator. look at the affiliate site - big graphics, 50% ONSALES(great design work, onsales is one word) three times, do you see any 50% ON REBILLS anywhere? she doesn't think affiliates deserve a cut of rebills. there's no mistake.

generic fake boobed blonde anyway.

Ouch!

I wanted to give her friendly advice and help.

I directed her to this thread...maybe some reality will settle in...

Anyway, I can make a killing selling this..
https://twitter.com/#!/lacey_foxx/st...076608/photo/1

[Pseudonymous]

Originally Posted by Mutt

you're not too bright for a senator. look at the affiliate site - big graphics, 50% ONSALES(great design work, onsales is one word) three times, do you see any 50% ON REBILLS anywhere? she doesn't think affiliates deserve a cut of rebills. there's no mistake.

generic fake boobed blonde anyway.

Thats ridiculous.

Who would promote that.

[astronaut x]

Originally Posted by TheSenator

Ouch!

I wanted to give her friendly advice and help.

I directed her to this thread...maybe some reality will settle in...

Anyway, I can make a killing selling this..
https://twitter.com/#!/lacey_foxx/st...076608/photo/1

Want to give her friendly advice? Do as much business with other shady people as possible from now on. The non shady people have no interest promoting this ever again.

In my opinion, they knew exactly what they were doing.

[TheSenator]

Originally Posted by Pseudonymous

Thats ridiculous.

Who would promote that.

I got traffic for you by the way but need something enable for me to do it.

[TheSenator]

Originally Posted by astronaut x

Want to give her friendly advice? Do as much business with other shady people as possible from now on. The non shady people have no interest promoting this ever again.

In my opinion, they knew exactly what they were doing.

R u saying Lacey Foxx is shady?

[Just Alex]

Originally Posted by TheSenator

http://foxxycash.com

This post is for the sole intention of correcting this problem within the CCBill settings for Foxxy Cash.

Foxxy Cash has her setting to never rebill. Am I correct?

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Well It says 50% on sales 3 times, nothing about re-bills. So I guess its not a rogue programer.

[Qbert]

Originally Posted by Pseudonymous

Thats ridiculous.

Who would promote that.

Yes, it's ridiculous, but I found one even worse a few days ago. Popular MFC model Austin White has a new pay site with CCBill affiliate program. 20% with zero rebills. Yeah, I'll be sending tons of traffic... /sarcasm

[Nurgle]

there are alas many sites setup like this and even when you bring it to their attention they wont change it as "YOU" had nothing to do with the rebill.. lol

[TheSenator]

Originally Posted by Nurgle

there are alas many sites setup like this and even when you bring it to their attention they wont change it as "YOU" had nothing to do with the rebill.. lol

ugggg....still unchanged.

[TheSenator]

bump....please address this issue.

[2intense]

Originally Posted by Pseudonymous

Wow thats shady.

Surprised they didn't go their own processing so they could really screw people over.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by TheSenator

bump....please address this issue.

jesus what don't you understand - there is NO issue. the program doesn't pay on rebills, it's not a mistake.

[V_RocKs]

Perhaps it is the new math?

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by Mutt

jesus what don't you understand - there is NO issue. the program doesn't pay on rebills, it's not a mistake.

Looks like it. Affiliates need to wise up and check things more carefully. Know who you are doing business with.

Of course it isn't worth it to promote most pay sites at 50% initial only. Not only because others pay more but because for most affiliates it wouldn't be worth it for them to stay in the business period under those terms.

[NBHNC]

Plenty of other big fake tit blondes to promote that'll pay on rebills I'm sure. Move on and just make note of this program.

[TheSenator]

I hope she gets this thread....

[garce]

Originally Posted by TheSenator

I hope she gets this thread....

They never get the thread. They change payouts, they change the rules, they stop paying, and they go "So long. Thanks for all the fish..."

[alias]

Blacklist.

[TheSenator]

Originally Posted by alias

Blacklist.

Not yet....she has to come in here or her partner to correct or explain.

[Fat Panda]

what a FUCKING JOKE.

[TheSenator]

https://twitter.com/#!/lacey_foxx

She does CrossFit.

[nikki99]

me no likey

[dooglas]

I talked with Lacey..this is her first time running a program so she wasn't sure as to the CCBill settings. She enabled the rebills so now they will work. This program isn't shady in the least so feel free to send it lots of traffic. I'm making sales already.

[DigitalTheory]

Originally Posted by dooglas

I talked with Lacey..this is her first time running a program so she wasn't sure as to the CCBill settings. She enabled the rebills so now they will work. This program isn't shady in the least so feel free to send it lots of traffic. I'm making sales already.

Thanks Doug can you ask her/webbie to add some more promo content.

[dooglas]

Originally Posted by DigitalTheory

Thanks Doug can you ask her/webbie to add some more promo content.

Sure thing...I'll pass it along!

[DigitalTheory]

Originally Posted by dooglas

Sure thing...I'll pass it along!

Thanks

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by dooglas

I talked with Lacey..this is her first time running a program so she wasn't sure as to the CCBill settings. She enabled the rebills so now they will work. This program isn't shady in the least so feel free to send it lots of traffic. I'm making sales already.

Good to see. It doesn't matter to me but if she's not shady and it was an honest mistake then something should be done to compensate people who sent signups before and did not get credit for the rebills. Maybe bump them up an extra 10% for a year on new signups only if they sent a signup in the past.

[Nicky]

Are the settings changed?

Cause 1h ago she said this on twitter: "I didn't make a mistake! I don't even use gfy so why would you post a message there???"

[Rattlehead]

TO THOSE OF YOU THAT WORK WITH US AT FOXYCASH.COM, THE SITE AND PROGRAM MENTIONED ABOVE (foxxycash.com) IS NOT US. WE HAVE NOT CHANGED OUR PAYOUTS AND WOULD NEVER CHANGE OUR POLICIES TO HURT OUR AFFILIATES.

I was alerted to this issue earlier today because their name is a complete skim of our trademarked affiliate program FoxyCash.com.
I want to make this perfectly clear THIS IS NOT OUR PROGRAM.

We are FoxyCash.com and have been for over 8 years. In fact, most of you know us and have met us personally at shows over the years. We are the official program of FoxyAnya.com and have been online for over 13 years.

I find it divisive and unethical to try and start a program with nearly the same name only a month or so ago and not know that foxycash.com was already taken and has been an established affiliate program.

I have attempted to contact them via their site, we'll see if we get a response.

[DigitalTheory]

Still showing zero rebills.

[jimmycooper]

Anyone care to share their rebill ratio?

Last year, in my first full year, my total # of CCBILL rebills was approximately 40% of my total CCBILL new membership sales. Based on that small sample, and figuring that a large portion of that 40% consisted of multiple rebills, it's not a stretch to say that only 20-25% of all initial membership sales will rebill.

So the question is, how does one weigh that # against the likelihood that a no rebill policy will lead to a site being underexposed?

[Pseudonymous]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Anyone care to share their rebill ratio?

Last year, in my first full year, my total # of CCBILL rebills was approximately 40% of my total CCBILL new membership sales. Based on that small sample, and figuring that a large portion of that 40% consisted of multiple rebills, it's not a stretch to say that only 20-25% of all initial membership sales will rebill.

So the question is, how does one weigh that # against the likelihood that a no rebill policy will lead to a site being underexposed?

You dont think 40 percent is alot? I think thats a drastic change and as an affiliate also, i would never support it and hope more programs dont lean towards that. Considering affiliates already have troubles making a full time out of this is 2012, giving them more reason to quit isn't a great idea.

You say only 25 percent actually rebill but that number doesn't matter, what matters is total money that you wouldn't be getting that that would be about 40 percent of total earnings

Also, sites that still update (which isn't alot) typically rebill much better than 25 percent. Shes very active so it should be closer to 50 percent.

[travs]

they just seem a little bit lost...so yeah I think some guidance would help

[Pseudonymous]

Originally Posted by travs

they just seem a little bit lost...so yeah I think some guidance would help

They always are when its just a model and somebody who doesn't have a history of solo girl sites guiding them.

Yet so many models go in that direction after some moron in this industry screws them over.

Its either somebody who will screw them or somebody who wont make them much money. Its never the right decision. Ive always thought its quite common for models to be attracted to making wrong decisions, like if i gave a model two choices, she'd get the wrong one twice as often. They definitely dont ever do enough homework before making decisions, thats part of it

[Qbert]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Anyone care to share their rebill ratio?

Last year, in my first full year, my total # of CCBILL rebills was approximately 40% of my total CCBILL new membership sales...

CCbill sponsors make up about 80% of my income. For 2011 my rebills were 116% of my new recurring sales.

[tonyparra]

Originally Posted by Nicky

Are the settings changed?

Cause 1h ago she said this on twitter: "I didn't make a mistake! I don't even use gfy so why would you post a message there???"

LOL He got a crush on her or something cus she making you look stoopid dude. Fuck that bitch mang.

[Pseudonymous]

Originally Posted by Qbert

CCbill sponsors make up about 80% of my income. For 2011 my rebills were 116% of my new recurring sales.

Yep any affiliate that has been doing this for a while should have percents like that, earnings from rebills typically ends up being more than new sales as rebills pile up and new sales go down in time. Alot of old affiliates that i know make way more in rebills.

Anyone who is supporting new programs that dont give earnings for rebills is not wise.. and thats coming from a program owner

If you affiliates show you dont mind by continuing to promote it, they'll all switch to that, guaranteed. You dont want that

[TheSenator]

Originally Posted by Nicky

Are the settings changed?

Cause 1h ago she said this on twitter: "I didn't make a mistake! I don't even use gfy so why would you post a message there???"

Just checked the settings...still says ZERO rebills.

[TheSenator]

Someone please help her....it is still at ZERO rebills

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by TheSenator

Someone please help her....it is still at ZERO rebills

In the past I thought after changing the main setting you still had to go back and fix all the old accounts because it would not automatically change them over. I'm not sure if this is still the case.

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by Pseudonymous

Yep any affiliate that has been doing this for a while should have percents like that, earnings from rebills typically ends up being more than new sales as rebills pile up and new sales go down in time. Alot of old affiliates that i know make way more in rebills.

Anyone who is supporting new programs that dont give earnings for rebills is not wise.. and thats coming from a program owner

If you affiliates show you dont mind by continuing to promote it, they'll all switch to that, guaranteed. You dont want that

Unfortunately many affiliates now are just doing this for beer money. There are some who are full time and know their stuff but it's like 3:1 mostly with the "beer money barons" as barefootsies calls them in the majority. These guys tend to support theft, think Nasty Dollar's stats go by 1st page raws and love hosted solutions which pay them 30 cents a day (so they don't have to buy hosting). They have no clue as to what money used to be (and still is with much more work) available in this industry as an affiliate. They just want to earn enough for a car payment or to buy a new XBox game each month. I'm not an elitist but their ignorance tends to make things harder for other affiliates because they make affiliates look like nothing more than a bunch of suckers who aren't serious and will fall for anything. It's always been like this a little bit though.

[Nicky]

Originally Posted by tonyparra

LOL He got a crush on her or something cus she making you look stoopid dude. Fuck that bitch mang.

I assume this is directed to D_Mang and not me? lol

[DigitalTheory]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

In the past I thought after changing the main setting you still had to go back and fix all the old accounts because it would not automatically change them over. I'm not sure if this is still the case.

It appears to be. I made another account under her and I now see unlimited rebills.