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Old 11-05-2012, 02:18 AM   #1
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Pimproll

My friend tells that if you will sign up on any pimp's site and your credit card will have any problem, sample:
There was a problem with the transaction. Your credit card was not charged.

You can attempt to process this transaction with our secondary biller.

You will be automatically redirected in 10 seconds. Click here to be redirected immediately.

and after redirect, the secondary billing shall use another pimp id, pimp99100

part of url was: https://wnu.com/secure/services/?api=join&response_post=true&x_rf_code=pimp99100-ft&po_code=eu17e32&pi_code=bgeu711t2eg&reseller=pi mp"MYID"...
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:49 AM   #2
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drama? your second identity is your friend? you affraid of anything?
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Old 11-05-2012, 04:00 AM   #3
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Your id is in the reseller part?
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:24 AM   #4
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parking right here.
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:10 AM   #5
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Pimp 9910.

We now know your name and where you live
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:12 AM   #6
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:32 AM   #7
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It's been discussed on Masterx for a few days I see. Dating Gold is popping consoles as the member is signing up, xlovecams is popping other sites on revshare and now Pimproll looks to have been caught shaving on the secondary processor. Bend over affiliates. Many sponsors no longer have affiliate programs as a legitimate partnership instead they only see you as marks to exploit.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:57 AM   #8
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:59 AM   #9
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:01 AM   #10
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My friend tells that if you will sign up on any pimp's site and your credit card will have any problem, sample:
There was a problem with the transaction. Your credit card was not charged.

You can attempt to process this transaction with our secondary biller.

You will be automatically redirected in 10 seconds. Click here to be redirected immediately.

and after redirect, the secondary billing shall use another pimp id, pimp99100

part of url was: https://wnu.com/secure/services/?api=join&response_post=true&x_rf_code=pimp99100-ft&po_code=eu17e32&pi_code=bgeu711t2eg&reseller=pi mp"MYID"...
Alardon:

I double dare you to give me your pimp id, as I see your "friend" was nice enough to remove it from the link for you. "&reseller=pimp"MYID"
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:45 AM   #11
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I double dare you to give me your pimp id, as I see your "friend" was nice enough to remove it from the link for you. "&reseller=pimp"MYID"
Is this the official pimproll response to shaving accusations?
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:49 AM   #12
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Is this the official pimproll response to shaving accusations?
I'll gladly respond to you after, or anyone after Alerdron decides if he will share his pimp id with me.

if you have used epoch, or have an understanding of their join process, you should be able to look at his post and decide if there is an issue without my help.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:16 AM   #13
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I'll gladly respond to you after, or anyone after Alerdron decides if he will share his pimp id with me.

if you have used epoch, or have an understanding of their join process, you should be able to look at his post and decide if there is an issue without my help.
I haven't used Epoch, nor do I have an understanding of their join process. I'm completely ignorant in this matter. But, if I understand your tone correctly, this is such an absurd claim it doesn't require a response? If that's the case, I do understand
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:34 AM   #14
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I'll gladly respond to you after, or anyone after Alerdron decides if he will share his pimp id with me.

if you have used epoch, or have an understanding of their join process, you should be able to look at his post and decide if there is an issue without my help.
It probably makes more sense to explain anyways.

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Old 11-05-2012, 09:35 AM   #15
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While you're waiting for him to post his ID, why not just answer the simple question: would his "friend" count as a referral or not in that situation?

I don't even promote this, but evading the question just makes people wonder.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:42 AM   #16
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:53 AM   #17
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Here's the post about it on Master-X.

http://www.master-x.com/forum/topics/165550/

You can use Google Translate to read it if you want but it'll give you a headache.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:07 AM   #18
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It probably makes more sense to explain anyways.

Just my
I wanted to get his pimp id first, my assumption was that my explanation would deter him from wanting to talk about it any more, so I wanted to be sure we could determine who he was first.

when someone says "my friend tried to join, and when he gets to the secondary processor he noticed my pimp id had been removed" that raises a huge flag. Anyways, I have his pimp id so I have no issues responding.


here is a quote from alardon

"part of url was: https://wnu.com/secure/services/?api...&reseller=p i mp"MYID"


so, lets read the link code, well start at the end, that's where the meat is, it says &reseller=pi mp"MYID" reseller = the reseller, and "MYID" is not a house account, it's what alardon put in there when he stripped out his account number so that we would not know who he is. I am sure Alardon could agree that he himself took his account number off this link, why would it say "MYID"? there is no situation where we would insert "MYID" there, if we wanted credit, we would be putting in a house account. Anyways, his id is missing because he removed it to remain anonamous, and this is clearly the part called "reseller".

there's a bunch of stuff in there that doesn't mean much to this threads topic: pi_code=bgeu711t2eg that's a product code, po_code=eu17e32, that's an upsell/cross sell code. https://wnu.com/secure/services/? that's epochs secure pay page location, etc, here is the only other part that matters, and the part Alerdon is saying is us shaving:

&x_rf_code=pimp99100-ft, now most of you know that PimpRoll has a super rev share program that pays on original sale, cross sale, cam sales, everything the customer buys. It's a great program, but PPS is still very popular. We denote these programs with "pt" for partnership, or "ft" for flat rate (pps). as you can see, Alerdon is promoting ft - PPS (appended to the pimp id) As it is pay per sale, you get paid for the sale, you do not also get PPS on the cross sale! &x_rf_code = X Ref Code = Cross Sale Referral Code.

there is no secret there, on PPS you get paid for the sale, you don't get paid twice if the person takes a cross sale, if he promoted partnership, he would get paid a %age of both, it's the way it has always been, no shaving!

As i said, maybe a perfectly legitimate question, but he raised all the flags:
- brand new user
- first post ever
- Stripped his pimp id from the link to remain anonymous
- Admitted his friend joined using his link code
- claimed a customer (admittedly his friend) had the foresight to come to him and say "hey I tried to join a porn site through one of your links, and I noticed that when I get redirection to the sites secondary processor, they strip your reseller id from a portion of url, however they leave it in another portion of the url.

I'd think most of you would understand why I wanted his pimp ID.

as I said before, I don't think Alardon could argue about that fact that he himself removed his pimp id before posting and anyone from epoch is welcome to come in here and affirm that "reseller" means reseller.
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WTF reseller means reseller?
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WTF reseller means reseller?
That surprised me too, lol
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:05 PM   #21
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WTF reseller means reseller?
exactly, I was making light of the fact that he said we replaced his reseller id with ours, when you can plainly see that it says "reseller="MYID" as in he had removed it himself, and said we replaced with with our own, when "MYID" certainly is not a house account, it's what he put in there.

you guys can check this yourself, there is no need to take my word for it. If I was an affiliate, that's what I would do if it was a program I promoted and I was worried about it, check peoples claims out, decide for myself what is legit. I mean really, it's not some hidden secret, its a website that you or anyone else can look at just as easily as this guy did.
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That surprised me too, lol
I'll get the "sartalics" font installed before next time. Forgot all you guys in the Netherlands were so serious all the time.
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As i said, maybe a perfectly legitimate question, but he raised all the flags:
- brand new user
- first post ever
- Stripped his pimp id from the link to remain anonymous
- Admitted his friend joined using his link code
- claimed a customer (admittedly his friend) had the foresight to come to him and say "hey I tried to join a porn site through one of your links, and I noticed that when I get redirection to the sites secondary processor, they strip your reseller id from a portion of url, however they leave it in another portion of the url.

I'd think most of you would understand why I wanted his pimp ID.
Same reason he was never going to post it.
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