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Old 11-06-2012, 08:34 AM   #51
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So far so good, at least in betting world :-)

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Old 11-06-2012, 11:54 AM   #52
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You are very much Republican.

The way the current system works is the rich walk through loop wholes a mile long. I'm not being punished for being successful, I'm getting richer and richer while the poor continue to live in section eight housing.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like generations of people living on welfare either. But is Romney going to change that? Obama? The next President? The one after him? Nope.



Making the point of what? That we had a decent president in office and all the Republican party could do about it was expose him getting a fucking blow job? That was the lowest point in American politics, worse than Nixon.



President Bush brought the country to it's knees, and dragged the entire world down with it. The shit we are still going through today is because of President Bush. He destroyed us. He was at the helm when this all went down.

Why in the world do you think Obama has Clinton - the President who was impeached - campaigning for him yet there is zero mention of Bush during the entire Romney campaign.
Bullshit, Clinton was the cause of it. Bush sure didn't stop it from happening.

Also, you say shit is so good now, you have neighbors now and businesses.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:58 AM   #53
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I'm not saying give small businesses a free ride, I'm saying not to tax them to death.

I'm not against welfare, I'm against the way it is currently handled.
They aren't being taxed to death. If you are feeling like you are being taxed to death that is because you are failing at business.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:00 PM   #54
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For the same reason that Gore didn't want Clinton anywhere near him in 2000 (Clinton was still disgraced at the time he left office) and didn't have him as part of the campaign at all.

And the same reason that Carter to this very day is not wanted in campaigning or at the Democrat Convention.

Bush is in the same boat at the moment. He is a negative. Why would Romney want a negative like that?

He doesn't. Just like Clinton WAS a negative in 2000 for Gore, and Carter would be a negative for Obama now.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:34 PM   #55
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because Bush was a major factor in why we're in this shit mess ? could that have something to do with it ?
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:37 PM   #56
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because Bush was a major factor in why we're in this shit mess ? could that have something to do with it ?
No, Bush is a major factor we went to war for no real reason and have lost so many of our personal freedoms.

This "shit mess" was caused by the housing market collapsing...which was caused by Congressional legislation deregulating it that began when Clinton was still President (and no, Clinton had nothing to do with it either...it was CONGRESS)
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:08 PM   #57
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Epic fail

Carter: has been a vocal advocate of every candidate since he lost

Reagan: Went all over the Country for Bush Sr in 1988, then did again in 1992.... proof you say:

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/11/01/us...-in-south.html

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tiNVq...feature=fvwrel

George HW Bush: Campaigned for his son and endorses Mitt Romney live on CNN

https://youtube.com/watch?v=mJNI1qw0l04

Clinton: Campaign Machine

W: ?


So I guess you meant dead presidents like Nixon or Ford?
LOL... Ok. Fair enough. I capitulate the point.









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Old 11-06-2012, 01:25 PM   #58
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:54 PM   #59
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Gore would have won in 2000 had he had Clinton helping him campaign. Well... he won anyway... but... Clinton would have helped for sure.

Clinton didn't cause any problems... the 90s was the most prosperous time in our lifetimes.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:10 PM   #60
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Gore would have won in 2000 had he had Clinton helping him campaign. Well... he won anyway... but... Clinton would have helped for sure.

Clinton didn't cause any problems... the 90s was the most prosperous time in our lifetimes.
I think he made a mistake by not having Clinton with him as well...but that was his call. He decided that he didn't want to be associated with Clinton because of all the sex scandals and the WhiteWater scandal and investigations.

Clinton was a negative at that particular time...but with a few years of retrospective thought, people love him now.

And I think he would have had a positive impact for Gore as well even then.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:11 PM   #61
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It's because he voted for Obama. In Fakeland.

http://dailycurrant.com/2012/11/06/g...y-votes-obama/

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Old 11-06-2012, 04:21 PM   #62
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I think he made a mistake by not having Clinton with him as well...but that was his call. He decided that he didn't want to be associated with Clinton because of all the sex scandals and the WhiteWater scandal and investigations.

Clinton was a negative at that particular time...but with a few years of retrospective thought, people love him now.

And I think he would have had a positive impact for Gore as well even then.
Yup... it was just one misstep after another for Gore, ending with not fighting the supreme court hard enough over the whole Florida debacle. Clinton would have totally had a positive impact IMO. And all Gore had to do was carry his own state and then FL would have been unnecessary.
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