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Old 11-11-2012, 06:25 PM   #1
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:mad mrshine - SCAMMER ALERT

This thread: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=19308093
Title: Paypal to paxum


Story:

Got in touch with Scammer via ICQ.

Agreed to recieve $250 Paypal for $230 Paxum.
So good so far...

Paypal arrived from a mexican account user... (another victim in the scam)

2 days after, that same account filled a Paypal complaint, saying that "things weren't delievered"...

I had to refund full amount to that Paypal address.

Futher research, that Paypal address was from a user that bought "Magic Solution for Easy Blog Money Online"... Some shit like this... On the BlackHatForum... He was paying via Paypal to this SCAMMER and I got caught in the middle... (I recieved via Paypal, sent the money via PAXUM, as requested).
I even got in touch with him via ICQ, Facebook and Skype... And he explained me everything, and we both noticed we got caught in some scam...

Three weeks ago... He comes to ICQ, requesting another money transfer... I LOL'd... and said, I could only do another one, if he came clean and paid me what was owed from the previous transfer... He said, yeah, will take care of it "right away"...

Now, he comes back to ICQ, I asked: "Where are you, and where is my money?", he simply replies: "Fuck Off".

Paxum says there is nothing they can do in order to get my money back... Quoting:
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According to the Terms of use the transfers through Paxum system are irreversible. You need to keep contacting the receiver of these funds and ask him to refund the payment you made.
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Old 11-11-2012, 06:26 PM   #2
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Old 11-11-2012, 06:41 PM   #3
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Funny how the Mexican got his money back. Oh yeah, his transaction wasn't via a penis pill company, was it. I assume you stopped using Paxum after they refused to help you with this scammer?
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paxum is like epass, don't send money if you do not know the person. I see these trades all the time and the one using paxum is at risk every single time.
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That's why you always have to know who you are doing transfers with... and why the bigger exchangers on here from the epass days had to sort of know who you were or be able to figure it out.
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And everyone says PayPal is bad... Sorry about your luck, but now you'll learn to not do transfers for any joe who asks. Especially after he scammed you once.

Scam me once, shame on you.
Scam me twice, shame on me.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:42 PM   #7
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do you do paxum to paypal ???

paxum and paypal both verified.,
i need exchange. thanks.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:24 PM   #8
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do you do paxum to paypal ???

paxum and paypal both verified.,
i need exchange. thanks.
Do you go to fires and ask for a light as well.
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Why would anyone ever do any kind of monetary transfer for anyone else, even if you know them personally? Why not just handle your own business and money and plan accordingly for your needs in advance so that you don't have to rely on anyone doing such transfers of supposed convenience?
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Why on earth would you do an exchange at all? Risking $230 to make $20 makes no sense.
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Why would anyone ever do any kind of monetary transfer for anyone else, even if you know them personally? Why not just handle your own business and money and plan accordingly for your needs in advance so that you don't have to rely on anyone doing such transfers of supposed convenience?
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Why on earth would you do an exchange at all? Risking $230 to make $20 makes no sense.
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Do you go to fires and ask for a light as well.
i am asking for paxum to paypal.,

as op said , paxum cant be reversed, so i cant do fraud.

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Why on earth would you do an exchange at all? Risking $230 to make $20 makes no sense.
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Sorry to hear..

I'd stick to doing transfers with only people you know.
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do you do paxum to paypal ???

paxum and paypal both verified.,
i need exchange. thanks.
I do, hit me up if you still need it
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Check the biz forum at MP's board. Sounds like same scammer who was using jacked cards to do some affiliate scams. The domain you mentioned is familiar.
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this EXACT scenerio (albeit different players) is what I got caught in over 5 years ago ...

A guy came to me (even vouched for by somebody I knew .. ) asking me to flip paypal to epassporte, and turns out the paypal he paid me with was a compromised account. Some Chinese scammer living in US.

Eventually, after several correspondences, Anne - the other party involved in this scam - realized that her and I were BOTH victims of this asshole, and she and I became friends - or at least "friendly". She even tried to help me have the report she filed at RipoffReport.com rescinded, but they tried to extort us for several hundred dollars to have it removed, so the report remains.

This also got my personal PayPal account SHUT DOWN!! Since I had received fraudulent funds, I was guilty of money laundering, regardless if I was a willing participant or not.

Rand was my account manager at Epassporte at the time, and did everything in his power to try to help me recover the funds, but of course this guy did not leave them in his account, so all they could do was close his epass account

Like I previously said, the only reason why I did the transfer, was that somebody I knew vouched for this guy. It was very hard lesson to learn, but I am much more wise with my online transactions because of it ..
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he's wearing shining armor that can manipulate people, beware ... have luck
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Learned my lesson...
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I am not great with PayPal and use it as little as I can - Is there a benefit to sending it as a personal payment as money owed?

If its not for goods they can't complain that they did not get them....
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Count me in as being scammed by the same guy too. Pitty me for not searching this guy on GFY further and being a stupid and nice guy to other people.

I have hired him to make something for me, which I only later realized he dont know shit about...while he was feeding me with all bullshit stories you can come up only if you are living in some scamming 3rd world country shithole (destroyed hardrive, then he had trouble with GF, then he must left a country for a week, and so on...)

Then he is asking me if i can do 200 usd paypal paxum exchange "Sure, why not, just send me money first". I didnt even ask for commission lol.
So we made exchange and then second day he ask for another exchange with promise to pay me back in two hours....now 150 bucks, which i sent him first in advance. I should have realized that he is going to disappear sometimes since he was communicating on the ICQ only in the "away" mode in the last days (some other people were probably already after him).

So I paid him 200 usd for work, which he didnt managed to do as he was completely unskilled bullshiter and then he bullshits me again for 150 bucks, lol. I have to laugh at myself now...as they say:

"Scam me once, shame on you.
Scam me twice, shame on me."


so now lets have some fun and post something from our ICQ conversation, where the guy is complaing about GFY, that people thinks about him that he is Scam cause he is from Serbia (he didnt scammed anyone on GFY before) and there is also his telephon number.







and oh yeah, 2.5k posts....I am going to the concert of Orbital today, so Zivko enjoy living in your shithole for the rest of your miserable life, I will be partying today.

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He got me too.
care to share....
cause i got my first paxum paypal exchange probably from your email [email protected] ?
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Damn, this shit bag does this for a living...
What a tool!
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He seemed always to be a stand up guy,
(know him from another forum/other nichname tho)

Sad that he turned his character.
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care to share....
cause i got my first paxum paypal exchange probably from your email [email protected] ?
Are you Pavel? Hit me up on skype please so we can figure it out.
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paxum is like epass, don't send money if you do not know the person. I see these trades all the time and the one using paxum is at risk every single time.
What's funny is that paxum has all these insane fraud checks, so you'd think they'd do something about this.
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Are you Pavel? Hit me up on skype please so we can figure it out.
yes, I am Pavel and my icq is 165 012 709. lets talk tommorow...
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You do transactions with people you don't even know?
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Zivko Popic 14-11-2012 11:02
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What an asshole...
How to get this guy banned?
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would help if you guys post the paypal emails and names of these guys ?
So we can lest watch for their names and emails show up in google ?


From the searches i did looks like he got all 3 of you in a 3 way scam ...
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this EXACT scenerio (albeit different players) is what I got caught in over 5 years ago ...

A guy came to me (even vouched for by somebody I knew .. ) asking me to flip paypal to epassporte, and turns out the paypal he paid me with was a compromised account. Some Chinese scammer living in US.

Eventually, after several correspondences, Anne - the other party involved in this scam - realized that her and I were BOTH victims of this asshole, and she and I became friends - or at least "friendly". She even tried to help me have the report she filed at RipoffReport.com rescinded, but they tried to extort us for several hundred dollars to have it removed, so the report remains.

This also got my personal PayPal account SHUT DOWN!! Since I had received fraudulent funds, I was guilty of money laundering, regardless if I was a willing participant or not.

Rand was my account manager at Epassporte at the time, and did everything in his power to try to help me recover the funds, but of course this guy did not leave them in his account, so all they could do was close his epass account

Like I previously said, the only reason why I did the transfer, was that somebody I knew vouched for this guy. It was very hard lesson to learn, but I am much more wise with my online transactions because of it ..
Wow!
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Waiting for Ruth to get that sorted.
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