Striking at WalMart - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

_Richard_ · 11-23-2012, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

(Also, did you know that our own soldiers don't even guard their facilities? It's all outsourced to local companies. Again courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer)

yes. private mercenaries do. no pesky geneva conventions for them

L-Pink · 11-23-2012, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

It's not that much because you forgot that they keep her at less than 32 hours so they don't have to give her benefits.

There you go a better example.

And for those that say fuck'em get a better job well the next person will step right in and again my/your tax dollars will pick up the difference.

epitome · 11-23-2012, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

My daughter has a boyfriend whose mom works at Wal-Mart. She's not on "public assistance".

What are the numbers on that? I've known a lot of people who worked at WalMart over the years who would come out on weekends and see me playing in my band at bars.
They weren't on "public assistance".

Doesn't WalMart have to at least pay minimum wage?

Jesus, people get a job and STILL want to be coddled? I don't get it. I played in bands (never had a "real" job) and we traveled all over the country from 1978 to the mid 1990's.

A GREAT week would be $400 for each player. But an average week was a hundred bucks. We had a 5 piece band and 3 man road crew. We stayed 4 to a motel room and unless you found a girl to feed you, we ate bologna sandwiches.

But we made it. And never ONCE asked for any "public assistance". I'd say the people working at Walmart have it made compared to what we did. And we didn't get days off...we played (and drove from town to town) 7 days a week, every week.

Anyway...do you have a link to the statistics on Walmart employees needing "public assistance"??? I was unaware that folks who had jobs could even do that.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business...ng-conditions/

Or since you are a good candidate for this: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=walmart+employe...lic+assistance

epitome · 11-23-2012, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

One of my brothers is in the army. He's in Germany now. He was in Seattle for a couple of years before that.

Has a wife and child. Our tax dollars paid the rent for their home to live in in Seattle. AND flew his wife and daughter to Germany and pays for their housing there too.

They are having a blast and send me postcards from all over Europe (they have been sightseeing at every opportunity).

They are living a great life. He actually went into the military in 2008 because of the horrible economy (he was a carpenter). Now his family is taken care of. They are seeing the world together, and they all have health benefits, etc.

Of course, we the taxpayer are footing the bill for it all. I love them, and I'm happy that they are living a great life. But I think it's WRONG for taxpayers to foot that bill.

(Also, did you know that our own soldiers don't even guard their facilities? It's all outsourced to local companies. Again courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer)

And my might-as-well-be-brother-in-law is being deployed to Afghanistan next year.

The world isn't limited to those you know.

Also, pull up to any base and see who is standing at the gate. Hint: It's NOT a contractor.

Rochard · 11-23-2012, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

That's $1,500 a month. Less taxes, rent, utilities, food, transportation, car insurance, etc. Numbers just don't work so my tax dollars are supposed to come to the rescue so she can survive and continue to make walmart billions in profit?

Anyone not looking at it in this way is deceiving themselves.

But this is the American dream at work right here.

When I got out of the Marines I was making $4/hour flipping burgers. I rented an apartment with two room mates and had a used car and still couldn't make ends meet. At one point I was working four jobs - I started work at 5am for a newspaper route, from 7am till 4pm at a restaurant, 5pm till 9pm at a fast food restaurant, and then working nights at Target on a push crew. This is what I had to do to make ends meet then.

If you want to work an entry level job at Wal Mart for the next twenty years, then it will suck to be you. But most of us want to do better in life and live the American Dream where they work harder and are well rewarded. They look for jobs elsewhere and new opportunities, their income rises, and eventually they make enough money to make ends meet and have some extra left over.

Fuck, I cleaned bathrooms for minimum wage at one company. It's crappy jobs that make you strive to do better in life.

TheSenator · 11-23-2012, 01:44 PM

Walmart is so ghetto.

Robbie · 11-23-2012, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

And my might-as-well-be-brother-in-law is being deployed to Afghanistan next year.

The world isn't limited to those you know.

Also, pull up to any base and see who is standing at the gate. Hint: It's NOT a contractor.

Not talking about the bases here in the U.S.

I'm talking about all our military bases overseas. I always though our troops had shifts standing guard. Nope. It's outsourced companies protecting our troops!!!

When my brother told me that, I was shocked. He also told me that they don't even cook their own food anymore.

L-Pink · 11-23-2012, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

But this is the American dream at work right here.

When I got out of the Marines I was making $4/hour flipping burgers. I rented an apartment with two room mates and had a used car and still couldn't make ends meet. At one point I was working four jobs - I started work at 5am for a newspaper route, from 7am till 4pm at a restaurant, 5pm till 9pm at a fast food restaurant, and then working nights at Target on a push crew. This is what I had to do to make ends meet then.

If you want to work an entry level job at Wal Mart for the next twenty years, then it will suck to be you. But most of us want to do better in life and live the American Dream where they work harder and are well rewarded. They look for jobs elsewhere and new opportunities, their income rises, and eventually they make enough money to make ends meet and have some extra left over.

Fuck, I cleaned bathrooms for minimum wage at one company. It's crappy jobs that make you strive to do better in life.

Rochard, I'm not talking about someone else's life or dream. I'm talking about why my tax dollars, and yours, should help underwrite the lives of those being employed by the nations largest employer.

.

Robbie · 11-23-2012, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Rochard, I'm not talking about someone else's life or dream. I'm talking about why my tax dollars, and yours, should help underwrite the lives of those being employed by the nations largest employer.

.

Do you have a link that shows that people working at a company like Walmart are getting some kind of welfare? As I said earlier, I know a few people who work there. None of them get "public assistance".

epitome · 11-23-2012, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Not talking about the bases here in the U.S.

I'm talking about all our military bases overseas. I always though our troops had shifts standing guard. Nope. It's outsourced companies protecting our troops!!!

When my brother told me that, I was shocked. He also told me that they don't even cook their own food anymore.

The only base I used to go to semi-regularly was Ft. Meade, which of course houses the NSA (it's main building 50 feet from the highway... which I could never figure out... the base itself is HUGE but mostly empty) and there are nothing but MP's with assault rifles manning the gates.

I was fucking a guy assigned and living on the base pre-9/11 and there was a single guard at the gate when I'd visit him. Now it's a dozen. Trigger fingers ready. The message is clear: you're not wanted there. God forbid you end up there by mistake like I did one time when GPS threw me off and they refuse to believe that GPS lies (how many people a day must end up there with the same GPS software) and guns were trained on me the whole time I had to pull in the gate to turn around in case I tried to gun it further in.

So I just googled and that apparently is not the norm now.

This was particularly disturbing:

Afghans Linked to the Taliban Guard U.S. Bases - NYTimes.com

L-Pink · 11-23-2012, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Do you have a link that shows that people working at a company like Walmart are getting some kind of welfare? As I said earlier, I know a few people who work there. None of them get "public assistance".

Robbie, check a few post down from your earlier request. Since it's your birthday I hopped right on your first request. lol.

Robbie · 11-23-2012, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

So I just googled and that apparently is not the norm now.

This was particularly disturbing:

Afghans Linked to the Taliban Guard U.S. Bases - NYTimes.com

That's what my brother was telling me. It's the same at all of our military bases.

I kinda wonder what the heck are soldiers are doing over there if they don't even guard THEMSELVES or cook their own food.

I grew up watching old war movies. I thought we had our own cooks and guards, etc.

Guess I was wrong.

LeeD · 11-23-2012, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Do you have a link that shows that people working at a company like Walmart are getting some kind of welfare? As I said earlier, I know a few people who work there. None of them get "public assistance".

http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/ccpd/repo...es/walmart.pdf
Here the average Wal Mart store uses over $400,000 per year in public social services.

L-Pink · 11-23-2012, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeD

http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/ccpd/repo...es/walmart.pdf
Here the average Wal Mart store uses over $400,000 per year in public social services.

That's only a couple billion a year. No big deal since we are swimming in budget surpluses.

Rochard · 11-23-2012, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Rochard, I'm not talking about someone else's life or dream. I'm talking about why my tax dollars, and yours, should help underwrite the lives of those being employed by the nations largest employer.

.

I don't think our tax dollars are underwriting the lives of anyone else. Just because you make minimum wage and or live below the poverty level, does not automatically mean you are collecting benefits from the government. I worked for minimum wage and slummed it with room mates, eating top ramon, and driving a POS car - but I never got welfare or food stamps. All of my friends from 21-26 or so were the same - minimum wage, renting rooms or sharing apartments, and doing their best to get by... But none of us ever collected food stamps.

I would imagine the bigger problem is not the crappy wages, but instead the fact that Wal Mart doesn't hire people full time is the larger issue. I am also wondering about the demographics of their employees - I would be guessing most of them are either in their twentys and not qualified for a better job, work part time, or are retired.

Again, this is the American Dream in action. If you want to work less than part time for minimum wage then Wallyworld is for you. If you want to better yourself work harder and go to college.

Rochard · 11-23-2012, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeD

http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/ccpd/repo...es/walmart.pdf
Here the average Wal Mart store uses over $400,000 per year in public social services.

Yeah, that's not biased at all.

Here in my community Wal Mart replaced a business that had failed. It didn't take jobs, it created them. If the store uses $400k a year in public social services, but pays tens of millions in taxes I am okay with that. We don't have a full Wal Mart here, only a "neighborhood grocery store", but the city estimates it will pay $3mil in city taxes alone in it's first year. I would guess that was more than the old store it replaced made in a year.

What we need to do is close loopholes. How about a new law saying if you have ten or more employees - even part time - you must pay healtcare for them. Hawaii has a similar law. Then close the other loopholes that Wal Mart is using.

Again, I don't mean to be defending Wal Mart. Their business practices are horrible. I avoid Wal Mart at all costs. But it's companies like Wal Mart that strive to make people better.

tony286 · 11-23-2012, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

Yeah, that's not biased at all.

Here in my community Wal Mart replaced a business that had failed. It didn't take jobs, it created them. If the store uses $400k a year in public social services, but pays tens of millions in taxes I am okay with that. We don't have a full Wal Mart here, only a "neighborhood grocery store", but the city estimates it will pay $3mil in city taxes alone in it's first year. I would guess that was more than the old store it replaced made in a year.

What we need to do is close loopholes. How about a new law saying if you have ten or more employees - even part time - you must pay healtcare for them. Hawaii has a similar law. Then close the other loopholes that Wal Mart is using.

Again, I don't mean to be defending Wal Mart. Their business practices are horrible. I avoid Wal Mart at all costs. But it's companies like Wal Mart that strive to make people better.

Facts arent biased You fund Walmart thru your tax dollars. They move in, they a get big tax break guess who pays for that? you. Those people who work for them make no money, have no insurance get sick and go to the hospital who pays for it? You They dont make enough for housing who pays for it again? you. Meanwhile Walmart makes 16 billion and you defend them for fucking you. lol They pay their people shit ,the plant is closed you got a family to feed or you're a single mom or not college smart. So you work at walmart, they dont give you full time. Once someone is in that hole they rarely get out because the hole just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

PornoMonster · 11-23-2012, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I wish all of them would go on strike. Wal-Mart workers? reliance on public assistance due to substandard wages and benefits has become a form of indirect public subsidy to the company. In effect, Wal-Mart is shifting part of its labor costs onto the public.

SubStandard???? It is more than Min Wage in my state. Lots of people willing to stand around, run a register, and stock shelfs slowly for that wage.....

tony286 · 11-23-2012, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

I made the $400 at a couple of gigs in 1990. I was a KING for a couple of weeks. lol

As far as "hope to survive", isn't that being a little melodramatic?
It's a job, plain and simple.
And a lot of folks who work there LOVE it at Christmas because they have employee discounts.

Most of the people I see working at Walmart are my age or older. And most of the women working the checkout are married and their husband's have jobs too. Just saying...there are a lot of people in this country who are unemployed and would love to have that Walmart job.

Being melodramatic? Try living on $9 on hr and no insurance because someone around our age working at walmart are basically fucked if thats all they can get. Alot of those people would of been the people working at the plant making a decent living. And thats gone.

L-Pink · 11-23-2012, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

Yeah, that's not biased at all.

Here in my community Wal Mart replaced a business that had failed. It didn't take jobs, it created them. If the store uses $400k a year in public social services, but pays tens of millions in taxes I am okay with that. We don't have a full Wal Mart here, only a "neighborhood grocery store", but the city estimates it will pay $3mil in city taxes alone in it's first year. I would guess that was more than the old store it replaced made in a year.

What we need to do is close loopholes. How about a new law saying if you have ten or more employees - even part time - you must pay healtcare for them. Hawaii has a similar law. Then close the other loopholes that Wal Mart is using.

Again, I don't mean to be defending Wal Mart. Their business practices are horrible. I avoid Wal Mart at all costs. But it's companies like Wal Mart that strive to make people better.

How does a walmart pay 10's of millions in taxes? I hope you aren't using sales tax for that figure. If so that means you think the food or merchandise wouldn't have been sold at all if walmart didn't show up? No one would have bought food or clothes or toys if a walmart wasn't there. I really doubt that.

The only actual net increase in your communities taxes would be a small amount of property taxes if any. The sales taxes are just collected by taking existing sales from other merchants.

.

PornoMonster · 11-23-2012, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

When I was 17 I got paid $2.35 in 1972 (Union Wages) working part time in a discount store -- that would be $12.87 in 2011. (Shows you how bad inflation (the hidden tax) has been.)

Walmart, Target and others are paying $8 - $10 average. If that is not a spiral down I don't know what is. People that work at these stores, if they are single mothers, qualify for state and federal subsidy programs in many places -- who do think pays that money that they get?

So what if they Qualify. It is NOT walmarts job to make sure the single mom finds the dad. The single mom didn't get an education before she got knocked up.

Like to add GREAT... Now the Federal Subsidy program is only paying SOME of what it would if she didn't have a job at all!

Like to add GREAT... Now the Federal Subsidy program is only paying SOME of what it would if she didn't have a job at all!

Like to add GREAT... Now the Federal Subsidy program is only paying SOME of what it would if she didn't have a job at all!

L-Pink · 11-23-2012, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster

SubStandard???? It is more than Min Wage in my state. Lots of people willing to stand around, run a register, and stock shelfs slowly for that wage.....

And you are ok subsidizing their payroll with your tax dollars?

PornoMonster · 11-23-2012, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286

Facts arent biased You fund Walmart thru your tax dollars. They move in, they a get big tax break guess who pays for that? you. Those people who work for them make no money, have no insurance get sick and go to the hospital who pays for it? You They dont make enough for housing who pays for it again? you. Meanwhile Walmart makes 16 billion and you defend them for fucking you. lol They pay their people shit ,the plant is closed you got a family to feed or you're a single mom or not college smart. So you work at walmart, they dont give you full time. Once someone is in that hole they rarely get out because the hole just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

This is one thing I hate, the Big companies getting a Huge tax break to move in. Even move in and steal peoples land and houses....

PornoMonster · 11-23-2012, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

And you are ok subsidizing their payroll with your tax dollars?

YEP, better than Paying FULL benifits if they didn't have a job.

It isn't like they said Oh I don't want the $25 dollar an hour job, I am going to choose Walmart.

epitome · 11-23-2012, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

That's what my brother was telling me. It's the same at all of our military bases.

I kinda wonder what the heck are soldiers are doing over there if they don't even guard THEMSELVES or cook their own food.

I grew up watching old war movies. I thought we had our own cooks and guards, etc.

Guess I was wrong.

I don't know. They were hiring those people at the same time they had stopgap going full force. I know they still fix their own shit as my brother-in-law is a diesel mechanic

PornoMonster · 11-23-2012, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

How does a walmart pay 10's of millions in taxes? I hope you aren't using sales tax for that figure. If so that means you think the food or merchandise wouldn't have been sold at all if walmart didn't show up? No one would have bought food or clothes or toys if a walmart wasn't there. I really doubt that.

The only actual net increase in your communities taxes would be a small amount of property taxes if any. The sales taxes are just collected by taking existing sales from other merchants.

.

Correct! They do pay SS tax on the employees, but so would the mom and pop shops...

L-Pink · 11-23-2012, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster

So what if they Qualify. It is NOT walmarts job to make sure the single mom finds the dad. The single mom didn't get an education before she got knocked up.

Like to add GREAT... Now the Federal Subsidy program is only paying SOME of what it would if she didn't have a job at all!

Like to add GREAT... Now the Federal Subsidy program is only paying SOME of what it would if she didn't have a job at all!

Like to add GREAT... Now the Federal Subsidy program is only paying SOME of what it would if she didn't have a job at all!

What are you a greedy walmart stock holder? The point is Americas largest employer, Americas largest retailer and one of the most profitable companies in the world purposely under pays their employees knowing taxpayers will pick up the rest. And that's ok with you ? Why?

Here's a good study you might want to read:
http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/reta...ard_push07.pdf

.

PornoMonster · 11-23-2012, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

What are you a greedy walmart stock holder? The point is Americas largest employer, Americas largest retailer and one of the most profitable companies in the world purposely under pays their employees knowing taxpayers will pick up the rest. And that's ok with you ? Why?

Here's a good study you might want to read:
http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/reta...ard_push07.pdf

.

LOL,
Just because they Make a huge profit you expect them to pay more than the other stores??

Should they YES, but make them NO.
Then all other stores including mom and pop stores should be paying higher wages also.

Want to know why they are the largest employer??? They can double a persons wages sure, then lay off half the work force... Want that??? Then your tax dollars are going to fund 100% of welfare for the fired person.

So, would you want to limit a % of what companies can make? You do know they get profit sharing also??

Rochard · 11-23-2012, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Most of the people I see working at Walmart are my age or older. And most of the women working the checkout are married and their husband's have jobs too. Just saying...there are a lot of people in this country who are unemployed and would love to have that Walmart job.

That's what I'm thinking. Either young or older married folks.

Nasty · 11-23-2012, 03:49 PM

One of my sons has worked at walmart for over a year while he is going to school. Most hours he gets is 32 and even with the 95% profit share / bonuses he gets quarterly, he still qualifies for aid and is considered near poverty level. They cut almost everyone's hours last month to 24 a week so they would have enough in the budget budget to pay overtime this month. Now he is working crazy hours that will continue until new years. fuck walmart

PornoMonster · 11-23-2012, 03:49 PM

Ok check this.

Walmart pays MORE than Min wage.
They have Quartly Profit Sharing. This depends on your store but the one that a friend works at she makes $1,200 - $2,200 a year Extra
You get a 10% discount on Items
They match your 401K
Health Benifits 80% covered
after 20 years you get 20% discount for Life.
Most employees are not working to hard...

Seems fairly good to me since they already start at more than Min wage!

PornoMonster · 11-23-2012, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nasty

One of my sons has worked at walmart for over a year while he is going to school. Most hours he gets is 32 and even with the 95% profit share / bonuses he gets quarterly, he still qualifies for aid and is considered near poverty level. They cut almost everyone's hours last month to 24 a week so they would have enough in the budget budget to pay overtime this month. Now he is working crazy hours that will continue until new years. fuck walmart

So a company cuts hours, because there isn't enough work, then works them overtime when there is, and you have a problem with this? The Company should just pay set hours even if there isn't enough work?? But now the employee is making 1.5 X for the extra hours worked... Man I tell you...

Get USE to this cutting of hours. Kroger is Hiring like crazy and cutting peoples hours so they do not have to pay health care... Thanks Obama!

DBS.US · 11-23-2012, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster

Ok check this.

They match your 401K

after 20 years you get 20% discount for Life.

They match your 401K, How much match 100%?
After 20 years you get 20% discount for Life. Dam, 20% off a Walmart price is dam low!

tedwinters · 11-23-2012, 03:58 PM

2 competing problems... Competitive advantage and globalization.

Basically, globalization drives down the price people are willing to pay for manufactured goods - shipping those low paying, non-technical jobs overseas where wages are lower. Forcing workers currntly employed in those jobs elsewhere.
If a country had a strong competitive advantage in certain sectors/economies, (eg: China/India has labour, Canada has natural resources, America *used* to have science and technology), then jobs should flow into those economies producing more goods and services in which it has a natural advantage in, allowing trade for the cheaper goods.

This ideally generates jobs in higher paying sectors, driving up average pay elsewhere.

The problem stems from losing your competitive advantage.... You can't just 'raise wages' without people having to pay more... And if you suddenly have to pay more for your goods, you'll find other ways to buy them... (EG: with globalization increasing, you'll order your new clothes straight from china, rather than off the shelf in walmart, you'll get your gadgets from dealextreme rather than bestbuy/circuitcity..)

it's a downward spiral to just try and 'raise wages', you need to fix the economy by focusing on areas in which your country/county/state has a natural competitive advantage in.

tony286 · 11-23-2012, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster

So a company cuts hours, because there isn't enough work, then works them overtime when there is, and you have a problem with this? The Company should just pay set hours even if there isn't enough work?? But now the employee is making 1.5 X for the extra hours worked... Man I tell you...

Get USE to this cutting of hours. Kroger is Hiring like crazy and cutting peoples hours so they do not have to pay health care... Thanks Obama!

lets see you make shit to begin with and now they cut your hours. So what do you do that month? take a few payday loans now you are in the hole that gets deeper and deeper. Yep thats a good plan.

tony286 · 11-23-2012, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedwinters

2 competing problems... Competitive advantage and globalization.

Basically, globalization drives down the price people are willing to pay for manufactured goods - shipping those low paying, non-technical jobs overseas where wages are lower. Forcing workers currntly employed in those jobs elsewhere.
If a country had a strong competitive advantage in certain sectors/economies, (eg: China/India has labour, Canada has natural resources, America *used* to have science and technology), then jobs should flow into those economies producing more goods and services in which it has a natural advantage in, allowing trade for the cheaper goods.

This ideally generates jobs in higher paying sectors, driving up average pay elsewhere.

The problem stems from losing your competitive advantage.... You can't just 'raise wages' without people having to pay more... And if you suddenly have to pay more for your goods, you'll find other ways to buy them... (EG: with globalization increasing, you'll order your new clothes straight from china, rather than off the shelf in walmart, you'll get your gadgets from dealextreme rather than bestbuy/circuitcity..)

it's a downward spiral to just try and 'raise wages', you need to fix the economy by focusing on areas in which your country/county/state has a natural competitive advantage in.

Actually to raise everyone up at walmart to 12 an hr costs a customer 30 cents. Maybe you can still stay competitive but you only make 10 billion instead of 16. Is that so bad? So a ceo makes 50 million a year instead of 100 million. Costco pays a good wage and wallstreet fought the ceo on it and he told them fuck you. Its all about greed I got mine fuck you.

mineistaken · 11-23-2012, 04:16 PM

Is it safe to say that average wallmart employee is not very bright when it comes to matters of how business and economy works?

tony286 · 11-23-2012, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Is it safe to say that average wallmart employee is not very bright when it comes to matters of how business and economy works?

Really how is that? When the costco employee can be paid a living wage.

epitome · 11-23-2012, 04:26 PM

LOL at people wanting it both ways. You are fine with companies not paying a living wage but are then appalled when people not making a living wage need supplemental government assistance.

There is a huge different between minimum wage and a living wage. In some areas a living wage is more than twice the minimum wage.

epitome · 11-23-2012, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286

Really how is that? When the costco employee can be paid a living wage.

The same could be said for a forklift operator or laborer making $16/hr.

Edit: whoops that was supposed to be a reply to mineistaken.

Barry-xlovecam · 11-23-2012, 04:42 PM

Walmart offers such good medical benefits too ...

Quote:

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/10/...nefits-always/
[H]enceforth, Walmart will subsidize employee health-care costs by just $250 (and remember, that's $250 that has to last the entire year); benefits for family members will be cut to $500. Employees who've seen details of the plan say that in some cases, the deductible alone on Walmart's new plan (i.e. the amount that comes out of pocket before insurance even kicks in) could amount to 20% of a worker's annual pay. ...

Some of the other 'big-box' discount stores offer little better -- why should they when their biggest competitor pays less and less?

Captain Kawaii · 11-23-2012, 05:35 PM

Walmart is reporting biggest black thursday/friday ever...

tedwinters · 11-23-2012, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286

Actually to raise everyone up at walmart to 12 an hr costs a customer 30 cents. Maybe you can still stay competitive but you only make 10 billion instead of 16. Is that so bad? So a ceo makes 50 million a year instead of 100 million. Costco pays a good wage and wallstreet fought the ceo on it and he told them fuck you. Its all about greed I got mine fuck you.

Well there's your answer... If people are willing to pay 30 cents more, then they'll start shopping at Border's, linens 'n' things, circuit city, etc....
Better service, higher class of people, less lineups...

tony286 · 11-23-2012, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedwinters

Well there's your answer... If people are willing to pay 30 cents more, then they'll start shopping at Border's, linens 'n' things, circuit city, etc....
Better service, higher class of people, less lineups...

borders was cheaper than barnes and noble but had awful management. There is more to running a company than fucking employees.

PornoMonster · 11-23-2012, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US

They match your 401K, How much match 100%?
After 20 years you get 20% discount for Life. Dam, 20% off a Walmart price is dam low!

It is 100%, but up to what amount the person did not know...

Yes, after 20 years of "service" to walmart you are what they call vested, and get 20% the rest of your life. I believe that is even off Sale and clearance things..

Should Walmart be starting at $10-$12 yes, I believe a company of this magnitude should be able to...

PornoMonster · 11-23-2012, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286

lets see you make shit to begin with and now they cut your hours. So what do you do that month? take a few payday loans now you are in the hole that gets deeper and deeper. Yep thats a good plan.

Well, Kinda like sales on the adult sites.. Should manwin cover my Low months???? HAHA

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-23-2012, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

walmart transfers their daily revenue OUT of your city

At which point the Waltons transfer it to Chinese banks where they also conveniently run slave mills.

beemk · 11-23-2012, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

As our nations largest retailer and employer walmart sets the wage level. And they have set it so taxpayers pick up the slack. And thinking better jobs are available in small towns that have seen most small businesses close in walmarts wake is wishful thinking.

You must not know how supply and demand works.

beemk · 11-23-2012, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

You are talking about exceptions to the rule, not the norm. Are you telling me that the tens of thousands, probably even hundreds of thousands, of people working at Walmart are incapable of learning new skills and becoming more productive people, not just at work but also in society?

Walmart employes like 4 million people. Twice as much as the second largest employer in the country.

Barry-xlovecam · 11-23-2012, 09:32 PM

Walmart won out in this -- it seems to be a few hundred of their 1.4 million US employees walked off their jobs today. So, I suppose that their workers accept the conditions of their employment.

Walmart employees are just doing the best they can and I am fortunate I am not one of them ...

11-23-2012, 01:44 PM	#56
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,332	Walmart is so ghetto. __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

11-23-2012, 03:49 PM	#80
Nasty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sunny Fucking California Posts: 1,575	One of my sons has worked at walmart for over a year while he is going to school. Most hours he gets is 32 and even with the 95% profit share / bonuses he gets quarterly, he still qualifies for aid and is considered near poverty level. They cut almost everyone's hours last month to 24 a week so they would have enough in the budget budget to pay overtime this month. Now he is working crazy hours that will continue until new years. fuck walmart __________________ “Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war than we know about peace, more about killing than we know about living. If we continue to develop our technology without wisdom or prudence, our servant may prove to be our executioner.” ― Omar Bradley (1948)

11-23-2012, 03:49 PM	#81
PornoMonster Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,257	Ok check this. Walmart pays MORE than Min wage. They have Quartly Profit Sharing. This depends on your store but the one that a friend works at she makes $1,200 - $2,200 a year Extra You get a 10% discount on Items They match your 401K Health Benifits 80% covered after 20 years you get 20% discount for Life. Most employees are not working to hard... Seems fairly good to me since they already start at more than Min wage! __________________ $6 a Month 4 Blade Razors, 4 Cartridges, Includes shipping! Domains 4 Sale CashForVideos.com - Pussy.biz - FootPorn.com - SoloMovie.com - CollegeGirlCams.com - AmateurCamGirls.com - PR3 4 Letter Domain

11-23-2012, 09:32 PM	#100
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	Walmart won out in this -- it seems to be a few hundred of their 1.4 million US employees walked off their jobs today. So, I suppose that their workers accept the conditions of their employment. Walmart employees are just doing the best they can and I am fortunate I am not one of them ...

11-23-2012, 03:58 PM	#84
tedwinters Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Montreal/Calgary Posts: 672	2 competing problems... Competitive advantage and globalization. Basically, globalization drives down the price people are willing to pay for manufactured goods - shipping those low paying, non-technical jobs overseas where wages are lower. Forcing workers currntly employed in those jobs elsewhere. If a country had a strong competitive advantage in certain sectors/economies, (eg: China/India has labour, Canada has natural resources, America used to have science and technology), then jobs should flow into those economies producing more goods and services in which it has a natural advantage in, allowing trade for the cheaper goods. This ideally generates jobs in higher paying sectors, driving up average pay elsewhere. The problem stems from losing your competitive advantage.... You can't just 'raise wages' without people having to pay more... And if you suddenly have to pay more for your goods, you'll find other ways to buy them... (EG: with globalization increasing, you'll order your new clothes straight from china, rather than off the shelf in walmart, you'll get your gadgets from dealextreme rather than bestbuy/circuitcity..) it's a downward spiral to just try and 'raise wages', you need to fix the economy by focusing on areas in which your country/county/state has a natural competitive advantage in.

11-23-2012, 04:16 PM	#87
mineistaken See signature :) Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ICQ 363 097 773 Posts: 29,656	Is it safe to say that average wallmart employee is not very bright when it comes to matters of how business and economy works?

11-23-2012, 04:26 PM	#89
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	LOL at people wanting it both ways. You are fine with companies not paying a living wage but are then appalled when people not making a living wage need supplemental government assistance. There is a huge different between minimum wage and a living wage. In some areas a living wage is more than twice the minimum wage.

11-23-2012, 05:35 PM	#92
Captain Kawaii So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,748	Walmart is reporting biggest black thursday/friday ever...