So where is it at? (your 2 cents?) - GoFuckYourself.com

RayVega · 12-11-2012, 12:17 PM

Hey everyone, Got a question.
When I was in the biz 2001 - 2007 there was big money in pay sites. Affiliate programs were a big deal and everyone made money. Solo girls did well too. There was a reason to risk being shunned by your neighbors and embarrassing your parents, LOL. Cash Money. And lots of it.

Then I went into more mainstream businesses and sat on the sidelines while tube sites made a splash along with their controversy and then came the onslaught of the penis enlargement pills. I kinda drifted away from GFY and all my good friends in the industry because it didn't pay to go to conventions anymore. Now I mostly build iPhone & Android apps, so i have no interaction with what's hot or not, but I do miss the industry and will always hold a fondness for what it was.

So...the big question is, is there any real money in porn? Is this little more than a hobby unless you are a large conglomerate? a micro-version of retail and manufacturing in America, where all the thriving independent businesses have been gobbled up into a handful of large cold corporations?

I took a look around and it seems to me that all pay sites look basically the same now. In the past, guys put up sites about the weird shit they were into personally. Their own perverted minds fueled the creativity and you had a sense of excitement on these sites and yet a little darkness too. Now, they seem glossed over and soulless like Coca cola's version of Santa Claus. They are visually stunning but that "darkness" is missing. It's not something you can point out, it's just a little twist that a corporation sub-committee cannot duplicate. Probably two or three pay sites (or groups of sites) still have juice, like Duke's FacialAbuse.com or Dirty "D"'s stuff at thestall.com...

I also looked up amateur web girls and what do I see? the same girls from ten years ago...amazingly they haven't aged much because they are mostly recycling the same content they shot years ago. If it is even them who own the site now. It blows my mind that a new generation of amateur girls have not risen up, but I must come to one conclusion, it just must not pay the bills anymore.

So where is the money being made? and are the individual web masters completely snuffed out at this point? I wonder what the industry is worth as a dollar amount and as a percentage of our GNP because it was huge just 5 or 6 years ago.

I'd love to hear your 2 cents.

-Ray Vega

JFK · 12-11-2012, 12:24 PM

Long time no see

RayVega · 12-11-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

Long time no see

Right on JFK! Hope all is well.

seeandsee · 12-11-2012, 12:42 PM

Vega all money is in tubes

TurboAngel · 12-11-2012, 04:49 PM

There's no money in pron.

;)

Va2k · 12-11-2012, 04:56 PM

DAMN a name I have not seen in a while Fungus = Va2k ")_

CrocMint · 12-11-2012, 04:59 PM

Penis pills and other health supplements still do sell great from targeted traffic.

Regarding porn sites, I do understand and agree with topicstarter's point fully...
99.5% of new porn sites are absolutely "glossed over and soulless like Coca cola's version of Santa Claus"

SilentKnight · 12-11-2012, 08:20 PM

There's still revenue in bdsm/fetish niches - but even that is slowly dying off.

I've lost count how many bdsm colleagues we've known over the years have vanished from the scene. I estimate at least half of those we met/knew at the first BondCon back in 2001 in Queens, NY - have moved on to greener pastures.

As you say - I quite agree the industry is missing that intangible 'darkness'. Much of it now is slick, formulated, re-packaged sludge.

edgeprod · 12-11-2012, 08:35 PM

RAY! Welcome back, bro!!

sandman! · 12-11-2012, 08:38 PM

there is no real $$$ left unless your big

digitalfantasies · 12-11-2012, 08:50 PM

not as easy as this: "There was a reason to risk being shunned by your neighbors and embarrassing your parents, LOL. Cash Money. And lots of it."

But I think there is some money in cams...

RayVega · 12-12-2012, 01:20 PM

Word to all my friends who gave a shout here
I miss all you crazy bastards! Yes, you too juicy!

12-11-2012, 12:17 PM	#1
RayVega Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York ICQ#348007554 Posts: 4,212	So where is it at? (your 2 cents?) Hey everyone, Got a question. When I was in the biz 2001 - 2007 there was big money in pay sites. Affiliate programs were a big deal and everyone made money. Solo girls did well too. There was a reason to risk being shunned by your neighbors and embarrassing your parents, LOL. Cash Money. And lots of it. Then I went into more mainstream businesses and sat on the sidelines while tube sites made a splash along with their controversy and then came the onslaught of the penis enlargement pills. I kinda drifted away from GFY and all my good friends in the industry because it didn't pay to go to conventions anymore. Now I mostly build iPhone & Android apps, so i have no interaction with what's hot or not, but I do miss the industry and will always hold a fondness for what it was. So...the big question is, is there any real money in porn? Is this little more than a hobby unless you are a large conglomerate? a micro-version of retail and manufacturing in America, where all the thriving independent businesses have been gobbled up into a handful of large cold corporations? I took a look around and it seems to me that all pay sites look basically the same now. In the past, guys put up sites about the weird shit they were into personally. Their own perverted minds fueled the creativity and you had a sense of excitement on these sites and yet a little darkness too. Now, they seem glossed over and soulless like Coca cola's version of Santa Claus. They are visually stunning but that "darkness" is missing. It's not something you can point out, it's just a little twist that a corporation sub-committee cannot duplicate. Probably two or three pay sites (or groups of sites) still have juice, like Duke's FacialAbuse.com or Dirty "D"'s stuff at thestall.com... I also looked up amateur web girls and what do I see? the same girls from ten years ago...amazingly they haven't aged much because they are mostly recycling the same content they shot years ago. If it is even them who own the site now. It blows my mind that a new generation of amateur girls have not risen up, but I must come to one conclusion, it just must not pay the bills anymore. So where is the money being made? and are the individual web masters completely snuffed out at this point? I wonder what the industry is worth as a dollar amount and as a percentage of our GNP because it was huge just 5 or 6 years ago. I'd love to hear your 2 cents. -Ray Vega __________________ Ray "The Don" Vega Managing Director Private Equity Fund [email protected]

12-11-2012, 12:24 PM	#2
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12-11-2012, 04:56 PM	#6
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12-11-2012, 04:59 PM	#7
CrocMint Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 227	Penis pills and other health supplements still do sell great from targeted traffic. Regarding porn sites, I do understand and agree with topicstarter's point fully... 99.5% of new porn sites are absolutely "glossed over and soulless like Coca cola's version of Santa Claus" __________________ Our Herbal Supplements for Adult Health - a New Revenue Stream for You - mike[at]crocmint.com

12-11-2012, 04:49 PM	#5
TurboAngel H.B.I.C. Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NC Posts: 30,122	There's no money in pron. ;)

12-11-2012, 08:20 PM	#8
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	There's still revenue in bdsm/fetish niches - but even that is slowly dying off. I've lost count how many bdsm colleagues we've known over the years have vanished from the scene. I estimate at least half of those we met/knew at the first BondCon back in 2001 in Queens, NY - have moved on to greener pastures. As you say - I quite agree the industry is missing that intangible 'darkness'. Much of it now is slick, formulated, re-packaged sludge.

12-11-2012, 08:35 PM	#9
edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	RAY! Welcome back, bro!!

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12-11-2012, 08:50 PM	#11
digitalfantasies Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Caribbean Posts: 2,691	not as easy as this: "There was a reason to risk being shunned by your neighbors and embarrassing your parents, LOL. Cash Money. And lots of it." But I think there is some money in cams... __________________ Last edited by digitalfantasies; 12-11-2012 at 08:52 PM..

12-12-2012, 01:20 PM	#12
RayVega Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York ICQ#348007554 Posts: 4,212	Word to all my friends who gave a shout here I miss all you crazy bastards! Yes, you too juicy! __________________ Ray "The Don" Vega Managing Director Private Equity Fund [email protected]