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Old 12-14-2012, 06:52 PM   #1
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Video games to blame, NOT guns

I would be willing to bet that all of these shooters were addicted to war fantasy video games, fantasizing about killing zombies and such. Are any of the shooters fat old gun toting trailer trash rednecks? Serious question, I really don't know.
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They can take my guns, but they can't have my video games. I'll fight to my last breath.
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Americans are obsessed with death and violence when it comes to entertainment as a whole, it's not just video games...
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I think videos games are a release of stress for most people. They kill pixels on a screen instead of going out in public and killing real people. Just my
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I blame guns, video games, and music. Not the person doing it. Wasn't their fault, guns enabled them, video games trained them and music influenced them, nothing more, nothing less...
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I think videos games are a release of stress for most people. They kill pixels on a screen instead of going out in public and killing real people. Just my
How do you explain the Batman movie shooting spree then?
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How do you explain the Batman movie shooting spree then?
I don't claim to have any explanations of why these incidents happen. I wish I did so that maybe I could help stop them from ever occurring again. I just believe video games are a release for more than they are motivation for others.

I may very well be dead wrong.
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I think videos games are a release of stress for most people. They kill pixels on a screen instead of going out in public and killing real people. Just my
Yes but these days the games are becoming more than just "pixels." If you've seen any of the new shooter games the graphics are starting to become very realistic. It's nothing like your old Mario made up of a bunch of blocks throwing what kind of looks like a fireball.

In Black Ops 2 you don't shoot a pixel, you shoot what looks exactly like a human being and then see blood squirt out of their head. There are 17+ age ratings for these games but we all know damn well the young kids also play them, and I don't see how it can be a good thing for them to see such things, let alone play them for hours on end and be completely obsessed with it.
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Interesting idea. I wonder if there is any truth in this.
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How do you explain the Batman movie shooting spree then?
Didn't that happen at a fairly early, if not premier screening of a movie? What the hell has that got to do with video games? Comics maybe, but not video games.
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Didn't that happen at a fairly early, if not premier screening of a movie? What the hell has that got to do with video games? Comics maybe, but not video games.
Batman has been in plenty of violent video games too in the past few years.
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Interesting idea. I wonder if there is any truth in this.
I rather doubt it. Let's not forget that fifty years ago they used to blame comic books and/or rock music. Later it was TV and video arcades that got the blame and still later it was rap music so on.

The truth is that some people are just plain fucked up and the media can't help but to reflect that.

But reflecting and causing are two very different things.
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All of the school shootings in the last decade the shooters where/are on/off their antidepressants. Not that hard to connect the dots.
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Playing hours and hours of black ops can't be a good thing for kids.
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I guess it is about one's mind, character and very little about the games we play, the music we listen too.
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God forbid we start blaming parents for the behavior and actions of their children.


With this shooting in Connecticut - why did the mother have two semi-automatic handguns in the house? And why weren't they locked away in a secure gun locker that her kid couldn't access?

Furthermore - how did she fail as a parent to raise this kid right?

She was murdered by her son...who subseqently took HER guns to a school and slaughtered a classroom of young children. Why slaughter the children? Did the shooter not get enough attention from mommy? Since his mother was a teacher at the same school...did he murder the children because he was jealous of the attention and nurturing they were getting from his mother?

Not to say video games aren't violent and perhaps somewhat influential on a developing mind - but I can't point the figure solely at games. Violence is pervasive throughout society. TV shows, the evening news, movies, the internet. It's everywhere.

We simply can't overlook the fact that it was the mother who legally purchased these handguns (one of which was a police-issue Glock) - and she was the one who made these guns available in the home.
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I would be willing to bet that all of these shooters were addicted to war fantasy video games, fantasizing about killing zombies and such. Are any of the shooters fat old gun toting trailer trash rednecks? Serious question, I really don't know.
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I would be willing to bet that all of these shooters were addicted to war fantasy video games, fantasizing about killing zombies and such. Are any of the shooters fat old gun toting trailer trash rednecks? Serious question, I really don't know.
Yeah cause we all know kids and Zombies kinda look a like...
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Why not blame the fucktard that did this and stop at that.

He did this, lots of other people play video games, watch violence on TV and have access to guns.

They did NOT do this.

HE did.
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Ya and when a pyro burns down a house because of all those graphic fire fighting games. Or when a wife runs over her husband for that console political thriller right!


How about some people are just fucken nuts.
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With this shooting in Connecticut - why did the mother have two semi-automatic handguns in the house? And why weren't they locked away in a secure gun locker that her kid couldn't access?
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the "kid" was an adult who was 18, not 5 years old.

You shouldn't have to lock things away from other adults at that age.
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All of the school shootings in the last decade the shooters where/are on/off their antidepressants. Not that hard to connect the dots.
Reposting this because it is the only post that is close to the truth.
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Why not blame the fucktard that did this and stop at that.

He did this, lots of other people play video games, watch violence on TV and have access to guns.

They did NOT do this.

HE did.
True, but idiots who play games all day long, live in a fantasy world they developed from their addiction are more likely to "go over the edge". If I am not mistaken the theatre shooter was "fantasizing" that he was a character from the batman move. These guys dressing up in combat gear, vests, etc then going out to shoot innocent people are living a fantasy. Where did that fantasy originate from? Video games mostly. Yeah shows like the Walking Dead feed the fantasy, but it originates from video games.
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Actually its pretty common in America to have an ex lover come into a workplace and shoot everyone. And it is very common for an employee to come to work and shoot up the place.

Americans are so desensitized to this type of shooting it barely makes the headlines anymore.

USA averages 87 gun deaths each day as a function of gun violence, with an average of 183 injured, according to the University of Chicago Crime lab.

So blaming video games really doesn't hold any water
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True, but idiots who play games all day long, live in a fantasy world they developed from their addiction are more likely to "go over the edge". If I am not mistaken the theatre shooter was "fantasizing" that he was a character from the batman move. These guys dressing up in combat gear, vests, etc then going out to shoot innocent people are living a fantasy. Where did that fantasy originate from? Video games mostly. Yeah shows like the Walking Dead feed the fantasy, but it originates from video games.
Idiot loners fantasize all around the world only in one developed country can they act it out so easily.
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The guy was mental. The real problem is that over the past decade the psychology community has been reviewing mental disorders and removing many of them from the list to keep from hurting peoples feelings.

Most people with autism or asbergers are fine but some of them defiantly need constant mental health support and might even need to be removed from society.

There are many cases in society were a complete psychological profile is needed. Buying guns is one of those situations.
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Many people were addicted to those games. All these kinds of societies are like after the invention of atom bombs and such things. Even in the 1990s, people played computer games like Doom, Duke Nukem, Quake and whatever else. Especially those people that just have to solve every level, every map. Those kinds of virtual realities were pleasure for them and they could be inside the computer game for more hours than real life. I think it is about whether people crossed the line or did not cross the line as they become killers in real life. Peacefulness would be a better alternative. Different shit happens in life. Events sometimes seem very unpredictable. Good luck.
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Since this shooter was 9 years old he has seen his country go to war with an enemy that isn't really defined and he watched his country go across the world and kill more children than anyone could ever really see as okay. What happens when those people come back home from all the killing? They are called heroes and patted on the back.

In the US kids are living in a day and age where killing by itself isn't wrong, as long as you have a reason. There is no longer that barrier that the rest of us have that says 'killing is bad'.

The militaristic imperialist ideology of the United States is not lost on the younger population.
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True, but idiots who play games all day long, live in a fantasy world they developed from their addiction are more likely to "go over the edge". If I am not mistaken the theatre shooter was "fantasizing" that he was a character from the batman move. These guys dressing up in combat gear, vests, etc then going out to shoot innocent people are living a fantasy. Where did that fantasy originate from? Video games mostly. Yeah shows like the Walking Dead feed the fantasy, but it originates from video games.
The Japanese take what you are talking about to the extreme and I cant recall the last time they had any kind of massacre. They have extremely low levels of violent crime.

I really do think there is a lot to be said for these anti depressants completely fucking up some people's brain chemistry.
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True, but idiots who play games all day long, live in a fantasy world they developed from their addiction are more likely to "go over the edge". If I am not mistaken the theatre shooter was "fantasizing" that he was a character from the batman move. These guys dressing up in combat gear, vests, etc then going out to shoot innocent people are living a fantasy. Where did that fantasy originate from? Video games mostly. Yeah shows like the Walking Dead feed the fantasy, but it originates from video games.
There are always people who live in a fantasy, regardless of where they get it from.

You don't ban alcohol because drunk drivers kill people, or tightrope walking at the circus because some idiot will try it and fall, or guns because some people will abuse them, or pro wrestling because some kid will copy them and kill someone.

Hell, kids would copy the old 60's (50's?) George Reeves Superman TV show and try to fly. Guess what? They couldn't.

There is no easy solution and nothing we do today will do anything to help these victims or their families.

One disturbed person did this, he's to blame.
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The Japanese take what you are talking about to the extreme and I cant recall the last time they had any kind of massacre. They have extremely low levels of violent crime.

I really do think there is a lot to be said for these anti depressants completely fucking up some people's brain chemistry.
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I would be willing to bet that all of these shooters were addicted to war fantasy video games, fantasizing about killing zombies and such. Are any of the shooters fat old gun toting trailer trash rednecks? Serious question, I really don't know.
If you really don't know why would you be willing to bet?
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:18 PM   #45
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