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Old 01-04-2013, 07:18 AM   #1
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this is a yes or no question...

so answer this question with ONE WORD: 'yes or no'













do people have the right to produce children and force to me to pay for the kids?

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Old 01-04-2013, 07:20 AM   #2
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its not a yes or no question. Everything is not black or white.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:24 AM   #3
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so answer this question with ONE WORD: 'yes or no'

to people have the right to produce children and force to me to pay for the kids?
I think you mean "do", not "to".

The answer is a resounding "No!" but there is really no way in a free society to prevent them from doing so.

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yes, and you have no choice so letting that bother you is a waist of time.

let me guess. Does the existence of stupid people bother you as well? The trick is to do your own thing, whatever it is that makes you and the people around you happy and you can't go wrong.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:26 AM   #5
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I think you mean "do", not "to".

The answer is a resounding "No!" but there is really no way in a free society to prevent them from doing so.

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What do you mean by 'pay for the kids'?
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What do you mean by 'pay for the kids'?
WOW, I think I don't want to know
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No.

And that is a good thing because you do not have to pay for them. The gov keeps track of where the various tax money comes from via the RF chips in the bills. So money that comes from conservative right wing kooks all goes to national defense and building walls on the border of Mexico.

The only money that goes to food stamps and stuff comes from the liberal tax payers.

It is a pretty good system they have there, don't you think?

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WOW, I think I don't want to know
I think that means using the resources that I have gathered to take care of my kids taken from me and used to care for someone else's kids... sound about right?
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No.

And that is a good thing because you do not have to pay for them. The gov keeps track of where the various tax money comes from via the RF chips in the bills. So money that comes from conservative right wing kooks all goes to national defense and building walls on the border of Mexico.

The only money that goes to food stamps and stuff comes from the liberal tax payers.

It is a pretty good system they have there, don't you think?

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you know what would be cool? if what you have stated was actually true... that each individual decided how their tax contributions were spent. this would be even better than voting in some regards...
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:43 AM   #12
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its not a yes or no question. Everything is not black or white.
so if a man fucks and murders children, tell the court that he will do it again soon as he has the chance... it's not right to kill him? that seems pretty black and white to me... death penalty, thoughts?
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so if a man fucks and murders children, tell the court that he will do it again soon as he has the chance... it's not right to kill him? that seems pretty black and white to me... death penalty, thoughts?
As I stated in another thread, You are pretty much a complete fucking idiot. Did you know that?

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I think that means using the resources that I have gathered to take care of my kids taken from me and used to care for someone else's kids... sound about right?
Without saying so, it appears you are talking about your taxes being spent on programs like WIC. If you have a problem with how your tax dollars are spent, there are multiple avenues open to you to show your displeasure. Write your representative, start a petition, vote for the representative whose ideals most closely mirror your own, protest, etc.

That being the case, the answer is 'yes.'

However, it's not like you aren't getting something in turn. Assistance programs help at risk families stay afloat. By providing them with small measures of support, they are able to pay their bills, maintain a residence, and make necessary purchases. Ergo, less crime and indigent people, as well as a higher tax base, which means higher property values and an improved economy.
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If we all get to vote on if it is you specifically that is forced to pay rather than everybody as a collective, then I vote yes.
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Probably no more rights than people who decided not to have kids at all should pay for your kids.
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No.

That said, I'd rather pay for those kids than pay for unnecessary wars.
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so answer this question with ONE WORD: 'yes or no'
do people have the right to produce children and force to me to pay for the kids?
I know there is a question mark at the end of that string of words but upon further reflection I think what you are doing is making a statement presented as a question.
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The popular moral answer is "No, they should not have that right"

but the actual in-practice answer is "Yes" because apparently they in fact do have that right.


Next question: Should people need to apply for a parental license before being allowed to have kids? Maybe have to take a course, pass an exam?

I vote yes.
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Without saying so, it appears you are talking about your taxes being spent on programs like WIC. If you have a problem with how your tax dollars are spent, there are multiple avenues open to you to show your displeasure. Write your representative, start a petition, vote for the representative whose ideals most closely mirror your own, protest, etc.

That being the case, the answer is 'yes.'

However, it's not like you aren't getting something in turn. Assistance programs help at risk families stay afloat. By providing them with small measures of support, they are able to pay their bills, maintain a residence, and make necessary purchases. Ergo, less crime and indigent people, as well as a higher tax base, which means higher property values and an improved economy.
I'm not saying anything at all other than asking a simple 'yes or no' question... and actually I don't mind paying taxes I just wish the nutjobs were a bit more responsible with the money
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Probably no more rights than people who decided not to have kids at all should pay for your kids.
paying for a 'society's children's' education benefits society in may ways. so people with out children do indeed benefit from contributing to a well organized and productive school system.
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No.

That said, I'd rather pay for those kids than pay for unnecessary wars.
interesting thought. in the 'way of things', long term, crime rates dropped after abortion became easer to get.....
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The popular moral answer is "No, they should not have that right"

but the actual in-practice answer is "Yes" because apparently they in fact do have that right.


Next question: Should people need to apply for a parental license before being allowed to have kids? Maybe have to take a course, pass an exam?

I vote yes.
that's a hard one because then you get into 'generic laws' which is a real can of dangerous worms
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I know there is a question mark at the end of that string of words but upon further reflection I think what you are doing is making a statement presented as a question.
I believe in giving a man a hand up.... not a hand out. that's my statement. now about the question... it really is a question because I'm curios about the leanings of this forum.
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If we all get to vote on if it is you specifically that is forced to pay rather than everybody as a collective, then I vote yes.
this is weird. it's okay to make me pay for others children but not have society as a whole contribute? why not you instead of me?

'you specifically that is forced to pay rather than everybody as a collective, then I vote yes.'
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