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kyro · 01-11-2013, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

When did I ever write that I had shot people? Wannabe black gang banger? Listen stupid, I never ran with bangers and never will. They're disorganized and violent and useless to anyone who wants to stay healthy and make any money without dying. Wannabe banger, hell!

As an aside.. Who in the world said I was from kansas? I'm not FROM anywhere and where I am FROM sure as the hell ain't the midwest.

Also- If I had shot at anyone or shot someone, I would be a bad person? Is that what you are trying to say? That is stupid.

from your drunken, psychotic benders on here, i would be concerned if you lived near me and had guns.

didn't you move in with your sister in Kansas???

MrMaxwell · 01-11-2013, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by adult-help

yes, people who live in countries where their children are not in danger getting killed by bushmaster in a school are absolutely jealous of your guns. I am immensely jealous that our kids dont need to think about buying bullet proof backpacks to go to school and that when they go to school I have to worry if they learned anything new that day instead of worrying if some nutcase with a semi-automatic gun would massacre them.Yes,we are miserable that our teachers aren't allowed to wear a gun in the classes and I cry myself to sleep ever night because I wish I could live in constant fear, like apparently you do, of someone breaking into my house in the night so I could gun them down.. if only you could be so miserable like we are.

if you dont give a fuck about your own citizens and children dying by guns then why should people from other countries? Ironically, "we" actually care more..we know how we live without a fear of guns and being gunned down and we would like you to live like that too.. reading many replies here it is evident you people, in the land of the free and home of the brave, seems to live in constant fear despite having guns while the civilized world lives with no fear and no guns.

and if you say "but USA is more dangerous than the rest of the civilized world". Well, it is because of the mentality you have. The mentality that every problem can ultimately be solved by and with a gun! The nutcase thinks that killing everyone with gun "will show them", you think that having gun will solve your protection problem,arming teachers will sovle crime in schools, arming this will solve that and this......everyone sees guns an an ultimate answer to anything,including crazies,thieves and harm doers... it is a vicious circle and more guns will just make it worse..Such a easy availability of guns and ammo definitely contributes to this mentality. As long as everyone thinks guns are solution to everything you will get violence no matter how many guns you have.

But how does that saying go: you cant help someone who doesn't want to help themselves in the first place.

Your whole post could have been one sentence and isn't relevant at this point.

MrMaxwell · 01-11-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

It's very simple common sense here. The more firearms we have on the streets, the more firearm deaths we will have - and the more mass murders we will have. This is a fact.

The problem is you have one side that swears up and down that they need their guns for protection or for whatever reason. The more firearms we have, the higher the chance they get into the hands of someone who is going to tear through a grade school or mall killing people.

Rochard, I can't believe it's you writing all of that. Go read about what happened in Chicago and DC

MrMaxwell · 01-11-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

here you go, you said it..

Yeah- it means I've never shot anyone.

kyro · 01-11-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

Yeah- it means I've never shot anyone.

MrMaxwell, if you take medication, please make sure you are taking it. sound like you need help bro

MrMaxwell · 01-11-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kyro

from your drunken, psychotic benders on here, i would be concerned if you lived near me and had guns.

didn't you move in with your sister in Kansas???

No, I flew back and stayed with her for awhile.. I left though. Why would you be concerned? It takes A LOT to piss me off, and even then, I still wouldn't harm you just for nothing.

sarettah · 01-11-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

When did I ever write that I had shot people?

Well, I quoted the statement I was addressing but since you seem to have a problem remembering what you said, or comprehending when you read it again, I will quote it again.

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

I've never shot anyone I shouldn't have hurt. Period. I never even shot AT anyone without a good reason. No matter HOW MUCH SHIT they talked or whatever else. Period. Drunk or not.

How else can that be interpreted other than that you have in the past shot and injured people?

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Wannabe black gang banger? Listen stupid, I never ran with bangers and never will. They're disorganized and violent and useless to anyone who wants to stay healthy and make any money without dying. Wannabe banger, hell!

Didm't say you ran with bangers, said you were a white boy wanna be black banger. I get that from your post history across the past couple of years.

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As an aside.. Who in the world said I was from kansas? I'm not FROM anywhere and where I am FROM sure as the hell ain't the midwest.

You have mentioned many times your issues out there in Hutchinson, Kansas. Again, I get that from your posts.

Maybe you better go review the persona you created Adam, because apparently it is now coming and biting you on the ass.

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kyro · 01-11-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

No, I flew back and stayed with her for awhile.. I left though. Why would you be concerned? It takes A LOT to piss me off, and even then, I still wouldn't harm you just for nothing.

you would get drunk and sound psychotic, like you were going to break down. you have gun. i would be concerned if i lived near you and had children or pets.

Dirty F · 01-11-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

No, I flew back and stayed with her for awhile.. I left though. Why would you be concerned? It takes A LOT to piss me off, and even then, I still wouldn't harm you just for nothing.

You are the perfect example of someone who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near guns. But ofcourse like every other weirdo with a gun you think you are perfectly sane and a highly responsible gun owner.
You still don't see the problem do you?

Rochard · 01-11-2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

Rochard, I can't believe it's you writing all of that. Go read about what happened in Chicago and DC

I haven't read about DC. I have, on the other, read A LOT about Chicago.

Over a twenty year period Chicago has put on the books lots of gun laws. At the same time, the NRA is working directly to remove those gun laws - taking them to the Supreme Court and winning. While all of this is going on... The homicide rate in Chicago is coming down. You cannot deny this. During the 1990s homicides were in the 900 range; 943 homicides in 1992. In the past few years, we've seen the homicide rate drop below 500 - 435 in 2011.

I fail to understand why anyone is pointing to Chicago and saying gun laws don't work. Homicides have been nearly cut in half.

But it's irrelevant at the same time. You know damn well you can walk outside of city limits and buy whatever you need. But you cannot deny it's helped.

Vendzilla the other mention some town in Georgia that has a law which requires people to have firearms in their homes. This city is also mentioned by gun nuts. It's safer than the average US city. But it was three times less safer than my little hometown, which is only slightly larger.

kane · 01-11-2013, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

You and rochard are right about this (I actually mentioned that being a risk earlier) but if shit jumps off what is the chance the teacher is shooting the wrong person? It's a much greater chance of him/her stopping the threat, because it is a human being with a gun. What is the threat? A human being with a gun? What is necessary if you want to neutralize that threat? A human being with a gun.

There is always the potential deterrent that knowing teachers are armed might have. If, like you say, someone is thinking of shooting up a school and knows there are armed people in the school they might think otherwise. There is also a part of me that thinks these people are fucked up enough that they won't really care then the question becomes one of whether or not the armed teachers did any good.

sarettah · 01-11-2013, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

As an aside.. Who in the world said I was from kansas? I'm not FROM anywhere and where I am FROM sure as the hell ain't the midwest.

In your own words

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I live in this godforsaken town of Hutchinson Kansas

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I live in HUTCHINSON right outside of Wichita

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Years ago I remember going to Lindsborg and this old guy made me a wooden horse and threw it at me. That was fun. And all the houses have red horses out front.

I've lived here on and off most of my life.

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BlackCrayon · 01-11-2013, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

Yeah- it means I've never shot anyone.

by saying the exact opposite? i guess making sense isn't your strong suit.

CyberHustler · 01-11-2013, 01:47 PM

Sheesh

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 01-11-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by adult-help

yes, people who live in countries where their children are not in danger of getting killed by a bushmaster rifle in school are absolutely jealous of your guns. I am immensely jealous that our kids don't need to think about buying bullet-proof backpacks to go to school, and that when they go to school I have to worry if they learned anything new that day instead of worrying if some nutcase with a semi-automatic gun would massacre them.

Yes, we are miserable that our teachers aren't allowed to wear a gun in the classes and I cry myself to sleep every night because I wish I could live in constant fear, like apparently you do, of someone breaking into my house in the night so I could gun them down.. if only you could be so miserable like we are.

If you dont give a fuck about your own citizens and children dying by guns, then why should people from other countries? Ironically, "we" actually care more..we know how we live without a fear of guns and being gunned down and we would like you to live like that too.. reading many replies here it is evident you people, in the land of the free and home of the brave, seems to live in constant fear despite having guns while the civilized world lives with no fear and no guns.

And if you say "but USA is more dangerous than the rest of the civilized world". Well, it is because of the mentality you have. The mentality that every problem can ultimately be solved by and with a gun! The nutcase thinks that killing everyone with gun "will show them", you think that having gun will solve your protection problem,arming teachers will sovle crime in schools, arming this will solve that and this......everyone sees guns an an ultimate answer to anything,including crazies,thieves and harm doers... it is a vicious circle and more guns will just make it worse..Such a easy availability of guns and ammo definitely contributes to this mentality. As long as everyone thinks guns are solution to everything you will get violence no matter how many guns you have.

But how does that saying go: you cant help someone who doesn't want to help themselves in the first place.

Great post!

ADG

Minte · 01-11-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Xxaru Media

That's exactly what some of the posters in this thread are advocating. Get civilians to take their guns in malls, schools, supermarkets, etc. So that when the shooting starts they can all draw and turn the place into the O.K. Corral. That's a real bright idea...

It's a tough problem. We already know what happens when we hope for change.

Innocent children died.

No one on the planet has a real solution to the violence that exists around the world.
A lot of you people like to pick on America. Go to Mexico if you want a clinic in gun violence.

Xxaru Media · 01-11-2013, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte

It's a tough problem. We already know what happens when we hope for change.

Innocent children died.

No one on the planet has a real solution to the violence that exists around the world.
A lot of you people like to pick on America. Go to Mexico if you want a clinic in gun violence.

I agree. I'm not saying it's an easy problem to solve, or that anyone has a great solution at this point. All I'm saying is that having everyone tote guns around like it's the Wild West all over again is certainly not the answer.

RKLover · 01-11-2013, 04:44 PM

Great thread posted by a real genius. Very few other people realize the best way to win people over to your side is to begin by cursing and insulting them.

kyro · 01-11-2013, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RKLover

Great thread posted by a real genius. Very few other people realize the best way to win people over to your side is to begin by cursing and insulting them.

fuck you

sarettah · 01-11-2013, 06:14 PM

MrMaxwell, where did you go? Come on, I am waiting to hear how you never said you were from Kansas and that somehow the phrase "I've lived here on and off most of my life." means that you never lived there.

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directfiesta · 01-11-2013, 06:18 PM

Hope they sell gazillions of guns ... odds of exterminating all these crazy fucks here would raise sharply ...

epitome · 01-11-2013, 06:45 PM

bronco67 · 01-11-2013, 10:06 PM

That NRA pile of shit Wayne Lapierre is trying to deflect the argument toward violent entertainment, and he just demonstrated how out of touch he is. He used Natural Born Killers and American Psycho as examples, but didn't do enough research to find out those two movies are actually a statement on violence, and more specifically in Killers, violence in the media. Wow that was a giant fail, and I'll bet him or anyone else in his crew will ever know.

There would be more violence if we didn't have violent video games and movies. Just like if there was no porn, there would be dudes running around with no pants trying fuck every girl they see.

dgraves · 01-12-2013, 12:32 AM

What has changed in the last few decades? It's not guns, they have been around for some time now.

If this was a gun issue then why are all these kids getting dressed up in specific clothing to commit these crimes? They are acting out a fantasy so where are they gettng the ideas from?

k0nr4d · 01-12-2013, 01:33 AM

adult-help · 01-12-2013, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dgraves

What has changed in the last few decades? It's not guns, they have been around for some time now.

If this was a gun issue then why are all these kids getting dressed up in specific clothing to commit these crimes? They are acting out a fantasy so where are they gettng the ideas from?

how many times does this link need to be posted that some here will finally get it that the gun violence is not a new phenomena in usa? No, the gun violence did not start with actors in matrix wearing cool clothes..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States

BlackCrayon · 01-12-2013, 07:23 AM

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What has changed in the last few decades? It's not guns, they have been around for some time now.

If this was a gun issue then why are all these kids getting dressed up in specific clothing to commit these crimes? They are acting out a fantasy so where are they gettng the ideas from?

wan't that only colombine? there is a documentary called 'manson' about charles manson and his 'family'. in it the family members talk about how they grew up watching people being killed constantly on tv with shows like gunsmoke, have gun will travel, etc and seemed to be blaming media in part for their love of violence.

so it doesn't seem to be a new thing, at least blaming it. personally i think fucked up individuals will just seek this stuff out, it doesn't make them do anything but since they have a predisposition to be attracted to such themes, there they are.

if the media would stop making household names out of these killers and if parents and society at large would stop medicating their children, i think those two things alone would go a long way in slowing or stopping mass shooting by young people.

MPGdevil · 01-12-2013, 10:03 AM

Rochard · 01-12-2013, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

That NRA pile of shit Wayne Lapierre is trying to deflect the argument toward violent entertainment, and he just demonstrated how out of touch he is. He used Natural Born Killers and American Psycho as examples, but didn't do enough research to find out those two movies are actually a statement on violence, and more specifically in Killers, violence in the media. Wow that was a giant fail, and I'll bet him or anyone else in his crew will ever know.

There would be more violence if we didn't have violent video games and movies. Just like if there was no porn, there would be dudes running around with no pants trying fuck every girl they see.

He might have a point. I myself believe the increased "mass" shootings are a combination of things - drugs and medication we take, society's growing concept that "I am right, everyone else is wrong", and the violence we are subjected to in movies and on TV, and also video games. While this might be fine for the 99.9% of the people, all it takes is one or two who has mental issues, has seen this violence played over and over in his head, AND has access to firearms.

The NRA is also partly to blame here. The NRA used to be about gun safety, less concerned about the 2nd amendment, and wasn't telling America that we need to protect ourselves with more firepower. I went to dinner with a friend of mine who I go to the range with once or twice a year, and he told me that he would go to war with the government if they took his firearms away from him. He is not former military or law enforcement - he owns a window cleaning business - he's thirty years old, lives in a town with a unbelievably low crime rate, and has never been faced with a robbery no less a home invasion. For reasons I cannot understand he fears for his life and feels he needs to arm himself.

I just don't get that.

dgraves · 01-13-2013, 01:20 AM

Did they ever announce the motive for the Sandy Hook shooting?

kyro · 01-14-2013, 09:35 PM

what guns do you own mrmaxwell ?

ggrrssyydik · 01-15-2013, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Do you think there's some factory making "illegal guns" for the black market. EVERY gun started out as legal one, whether a homeowner, hunter or military department first acquired it by legal means. Stop for a second and put things in perspective. You're breaking guns into 2 groups, but they all had to start in one group before they trickled into the more illicit group by way of sales or theft.

Yes. There are factories out there making guns that are not "legal". You can get a "kit", you can buy a gun piece by piece. Guns can be exported and imported in pieces hidden in electronic devices. Believe me even with X ray the parts are verry hard to point out. Buttom line even if you somehow was able to get rid of all guns today (legal or illegal) by tomorrow there will be guns on its way in the country again illegaly. I believe there should be gun control. But ban is not the answer. I also believe times has change, we no longer live in the past when no one thought of shooting up schools. there should be armed guard in schools.

kyro · 01-15-2013, 10:23 AM

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Yes. There are factories out there making guns that are not "legal". You can get a "kit", you can buy a gun piece by piece. Guns can be exported and imported in pieces hidden in electronic devices. Believe me even with X ray the parts are verry hard to point out. Buttom line even if you somehow was able to get rid of all guns today (legal or illegal) by tomorrow there will be guns on its way in the country again illegaly. I believe there should be gun control. But ban is not the answer. I also believe times has change, we no longer live in the past when no one thought of shooting up schools. there should be armed guard in schools.

why aren't kits illegal ?

ggrrssyydik · 01-15-2013, 10:52 AM

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why aren't kits illegal ?

You mean why are kits legal? or why are kits illegal.

Before the ban on assault riffle expired. One can build their own AR or Ak. You just simply buy them piece by piece. Illegal? I woud think yes. I never tried it. Since the ban was lifted, some of those kits became legal. With the scare about AR being banned again almost all of the lower part (part of the gun that as the serial number) were sold out. Thats the only part you wont be able to get legally once the ban takes effect. So the rest of the gun you will still be able to get. You just have to source a lower.

btw. You can get a lower for about $250. They are relatively small. They make them in china, so its not that hard to import them or even ship them once the ban takes effect.

here is a place selling them. they are out of stock tho.
http://www.impactguns.com/bean-firea...-receiver.aspx

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