Do you want a gun or a Phone to call 911? - GoFuckYourself.com

PornoMonster · 01-12-2013, 01:40 AM

When it comes down to protecting your self or your family or both.
Do you want a Gun or a Phone to call 911?

Average police response time is 23 minutes. give or take..

Someone is breaking into your home, or robbing the gas station you are buying a soda at, or depositing a check into your bank.
What one do you want???????

Police are there to take a photos of the bodies and fill out the report...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyoL...A&noredirect=1

mechanicvirus · 01-12-2013, 02:25 AM

I want fat neckbeard like you to protect me because I know from all the shit spewing from your mouth, certainly you're an amazing shot.

epitome · 01-12-2013, 02:34 AM

23 minutes? Must be shitty bumfuck towns. I've never waited that long. It's the police, not AAA.

PornoMonster · 01-12-2013, 02:53 AM

20 minutes for the last school shooting....
Yeah it can be 2 - 45 minutes, but we have seen people can shoot dozens of people in a few minutes, to stealing your house blind. While force should not be used to protect property, I am using this as an example on what can be done in a short amount of time.

Also keep in mind this Police response time is just the time it takes them to arrive on scene. Not how long it takes them to engage the criminal, or to find out everyone is dead and start taking the report....

Barry-xlovecam · 01-12-2013, 04:03 AM

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The Department of Justice, with their statistical prowess, reports that the best response time is 4 minutes and the worst over 1 hour. Interpretation? If you live in an upper income area you probably are privy to the 4 minute response time, while middle to rural areas will see a much longer response time.

Now here is where things get interesting. Even though the Department of Justice determined that the average [best] police response time to a 911 call is 4 minutes, the average interaction time between a criminal and his victim is 90 seconds.

http://www.self-defense-mind-body-sp...onse-time.html

Both, the phone to call the meat-wagon ...

Dirty F · 01-12-2013, 04:19 AM

After reading threads from gun owners i came to the conclusion that every single one of them is living in an area full of rapists, criminals and murderers. The US must be one horrible place.
You people live in constant fear. 24/7. It's sad really.
Just yesterday i was reading how Vendzilla teaches his daughter to shoot people in the eye to make sure they will be dead.
Man, when you need to teach your daughter such things you must be living in the biggest shithole imaginable.
I don't think i ever seen a group of people with as much fear as Americans. And funny enough they call it freedom.

BlackCrayon · 01-12-2013, 07:26 AM

the idea that every thief wants to kill people is retarded. they just want to get the shit and go. you have a better chance of getting shot at if you have a gun than if you didn't.

JamesM · 01-12-2013, 07:39 AM

for 23 minutes response time , i want Bazooka

obviously to protect my family.

JamesM · 01-12-2013, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

the idea that every thief wants to kill people is retarded. they just want to get the shit and go. you have a better chance of getting shot at if you have a gun than if you didn't.

you have a point, most are thief and not murderers

SilentKnight · 01-12-2013, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster

When it comes down to protecting your self or your family or both.
Do you want a Gun or a Phone to call 911?[/url]

A phone - to call a realty agent and move the fuck outta the neighbourhood to somewhere better.

Penny24Seven · 01-12-2013, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

After reading threads from gun owners i came to the conclusion that every single one of them is living in an area full of rapists, criminals and murderers. The US must be one horrible place.
You people live in constant fear. 24/7. It's sad really.
Just yesterday i was reading how Vendzilla teaches his daughter to shoot people in the eye to make sure they will be dead.
Man, when you need to teach your daughter such things you must be living in the biggest shithole imaginable.
I don't think i ever seen a group of people with as much fear as Americans. And funny enough they call it freedom.

This just shows how fucking stupid you are. You read shit on here and think it is real life. I never see guns and unless reading from the losers on here would never even think of one. I am not afraid of a gun and it is the last thing that ever comes up at all. Your getting your facts from a few losers who live underground playing nintendo all day and acting like they are webmasters or whatever. If I believed all I read on here I would think you wear wooden shoes but I am sure you do not all of the time lol

Dirty F · 01-12-2013, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian837

This just shows how fucking stupid you are. You read shit on here and think it is real life. I never see guns and unless reading from the losers on here would never even think of one. I am not afraid of a gun and it is the last thing that ever comes up at all. Your getting your facts from a few losers who live underground playing nintendo all day and acting like they are webmasters or whatever. If I believed all I read on here I would think you wear wooden shoes but I am sure you do not all of the time lol

Suck my cock, faggot.

Mike Dutch · 01-12-2013, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

After reading threads from gun owners i came to the conclusion that every single one of them is living in an area full of rapists, criminals and murderers. The US must be one horrible place.
You people live in constant fear. 24/7. It's sad really.
Just yesterday i was reading how Vendzilla teaches his daughter to shoot people in the eye to make sure they will be dead.
Man, when you need to teach your daughter such things you must be living in the biggest shithole imaginable.
I don't think i ever seen a group of people with as much fear as Americans. And funny enough they call it freedom.

You can only understand and think that way when you live in that shithole overthere.

911 or a gun lol, great comparison

PornoMonster · 01-12-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

the idea that every thief wants to kill people is retarded. they just want to get the shit and go. you have a better chance of getting shot at if you have a gun than if you didn't.

Maybe not, but I am not going to risk it. Not going to bet my families life on it either.

It was a question I heard someone ask, so I did some google searches on big cities and other data.

One of the most recent ones I found, (hard to find complete 2012 data) was from Denver.
It took 14 minutes on Average for the Police to Arrive... That is just arrive on the location.
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/12/0...s-it-alarming/

Detroit at the beginning of 2012, decided to take back the city since 911 was a joke.
http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/02...igilantes-1-5/

I say let the guys in prison out who are in there for weed, and turn the space into mental hospitals. HA

John-ACWM · 01-12-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesM

for 23 minutes response time , i want Bazooka

obviously to protect my family.

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anything to protect your family!

Rochard · 01-12-2013, 10:50 AM

I live in a decent town with a low crime rate...

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/lincoln/crime/

Our police department also has a good response time, less than two minutes last I heard.

Since I've lived on this street, now going on seven years, the cops have been called out four times - once because a home robbery was in progress, once because a car was broken into, and two because two residents were chasing their wives with hanguns (I am so not kidding either, different families too). I have a lot more to fear from the legal firearm owners on my own street than I do from criminals at this point.

L-Pink · 01-12-2013, 10:52 AM

I'll take my gun, even 3 minutes police response is a long time.

GrantMercury · 01-12-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

You people live in constant fear. 24/7. It's sad really.
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I don't think i ever seen a group of people with as much fear as Americans.

Exactly.

Part of the problem is our filthy media. There is CONSTANT fear promotion. If it's not gunmen, it's bacteria, or identity theft, or shark attacks, or wrinkles, or some such shit. A fearful audience is a captive audience. And a captive audience can be sold anything.

And if there's anything we love here in the states, it's our fucking TV. It's on 12 hours a day in most homes, and 99% of what comes out of it is vomit.

But yes, show me a gun nut, and I'll show you a big pussy who's afraid of the world.

L-Pink · 01-12-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesM

you have a point, most are thief and not murderers

And you feel safe waiting to see if the guy who just broke into your house will just steal your stuff and not do anything else? Good for you.

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

A phone - to call a realty agent and move the fuck outta the neighbourhood to somewhere better.

I don't care where you live low-lifes are a 5-10 minute car ride from your house.

I view being prepared as just something you should do, like having insurance, money in the bank, etc. But go ahead throw the hate I'm a gun-nut.

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PornoMonster · 01-12-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury

Exactly.

Part of the problem is our filthy media. There is CONSTANT fear promotion. If it's not gunmen, it's bacteria, or identity theft, or shark attacks, or wrinkles, or some such shit. A fearful audience is a captive audience. And a captive audience can be sold anything.

And if there's anything we love here in the states, it's our fucking TV. It's on 12 hours a day in most homes, and 99% of what comes out of it is vomit.

But yes, show me a gun nut, and I'll show you a big pussy who's afraid of the world.

Dang Media, they have you in fear a legal gun owner will shoot you....

BlackCrayon · 01-12-2013, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

And you feel safe waiting to see if the guy who just broke into your house will just steal your stuff and not do anything else? Good for you.

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what reason would thieves have to kill you? most wouldn't even do shit if they knew someone was home. of course, no one wants to take the risk. i keep a baseball bat handy but i won't be getting a gun.

Barry-xlovecam · 01-12-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I live in a decent town with a low crime rate...

...Since I've lived on this street, now going on seven years, the cops have been called out four times - once because a home robbery was in progress, once because a car was broken into, and two because two residents were chasing their wives with hanguns (I am so not kidding either, different families too).

Nice street :D

All kidding aside, what one thought of as ''decent'' areas have become statistics.

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

the idea that every thief wants to kill people is retarded. they just want to get the shit and go. you have a better chance of getting shot at if you have a gun than if you didn't.

Robbed at gunpoint -- When I was 16 or 17 Eddie and I ( a high school buddy) drove to a music concert hall that was in a not-so-nice part of the city. When the concert was over we walked back to where we had parked the car on the street and were robbed at gunpoint.

Ever had a gun stuck in your face?

We could have become a statistic. Luckily the thief just took the money no one got hurt. It's called armed robbery. We were not provoking anything. Maybe, just our presence was -- that is fucked up ...

A few years a burglar broke into my garage and stole maybe $1,700 worth of tools and garden equipment I had a $2,000 loss. I live in a suburb near a major city.

The scumbags are commuting to the better suburbs to steal now -- nothing left worth stealing where they live -- they already stole it all.

Now, if I saw someone committing a property crime like breaking into my garage I would call 911 and hope they arrive in time and not confront the criminal at gunpoint looking for an excuse shoot him dead on the spot. But if that same guy breaks into my house while I am in there he's going out in a body bag.

Most police work is reactive to crime -- they get there after the crime usually. Only their presence is a deterrent. There has always been a crime problem here but over the years the number of people that feel they have no alternative to criminal activity increases with no jobs and the illusions of grandeur of being a gangster (gangsta, gangbanger). Random violence like these school shootings, the DC sniper, the Zodiac killer are perpetrated by persons with severe mental problems that are armed.

Serial killers or mass murders don't present themselves at the gun seller wearing a loosened straight jacket, just out of the loony bin -- something obvious to a gun seller. All this talk of preventing the mentally ill from possessing firearms makes some sense if they are really dangerous. Gun sellers should be required to have some training in profiling their buyers (banks have ''know your customer'' regulations) and have some responsibilities for the sale of weapons with the revocation of their license being at risk for the actions of the persons they sell weapons to -- that makes some sense.

But should some guy that is argumentative but non violent, having sought some sort of psychological help, be labelled criminally insane and be in some database banning firearms ownership and who know what else. Potential employers, insurance companies, the public having access? The choice is having an Orwellian state or a reasonable expectation of privacy and freedom -- where do we draw the line?

America is a violent place, at least in the major cities. But then they estimate 60,000 dead in Syria now (many really murders -- civilian deaths) in their civil war -- Syria a country of 20 million as compared to the 314 million here -- there are a lot of worse places to be with a lot worse odds.

The financial industry rips off the saved equity of most Americans (even expanded to world citizens) and what we get are long debates over gun ownership? I am talking about the "government outrage" and its priority here. It's petty pandering in comparison if you think about it.

In the United States no law can be post facto so what guns are legally held will continue to be legally possessed; So, banning guns would only apply to new purchases having little effect other that raising gun values and encouraging illegal gun sales -- and that is where most career criminals get their guns -- illegal gun sales.

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Classic diversionary tactic:

ContentPimp · 01-12-2013, 12:20 PM

gun hands down, fuck the cops, they are useless!

Rochard · 01-12-2013, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury

Exactly.

Part of the problem is our filthy media. There is CONSTANT fear promotion. If it's not gunmen, it's bacteria, or identity theft, or shark attacks, or wrinkles, or some such shit. A fearful audience is a captive audience. And a captive audience can be sold anything.

And if there's anything we love here in the states, it's our fucking TV. It's on 12 hours a day in most homes, and 99% of what comes out of it is vomit.

But yes, show me a gun nut, and I'll show you a big pussy who's afraid of the world.

The NRA plays a huge part in this. I read one of their articles today about a man who produced firearm safety videos on Youtube who was shot to death in his own home. The NRA says this is proof that people need to arm themselves to protect themselves. To me this is proof of just the opposite - He had dozens of firearms and multiple firearms in the room he was murdered in and yet that didn't help him at all. Our fear of crime is making people arm themselves, which in turn helps to arm criminals and the mentally ill.

BlackCrayon · 01-12-2013, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Nice street :D

All kidding aside, what one thought of as ''decent'' areas have become statistics.

Robbed at gunpoint -- When I was 16 or 17 Eddie and I ( a high school buddy) drove to a music concert hall that was in a not-so-nice part of the city. When the concert was over we walked back to where we had parked the car on the street and were robbed at gunpoint.

Ever had a gun stuck in your face?

We could have become a statistic. Luckily the thief just took the money no one got hurt. It's called armed robbery. We were not provoking anything. Maybe, just our presence was -- that is fucked up ...

A few years a burglar broke into my garage and stole maybe $1,700 worth of tools and garden equipment I had a $2,000 loss. I live in a suburb near a major city.

The scumbags are commuting to the better suburbs to steal now -- nothing left worth stealing where they live -- they already stole it all.

Now, if I saw someone committing a property crime like breaking into my garage I would call 911 and hope they arrive in time and not confront the criminal at gunpoint looking for an excuse shoot him dead on the spot. But if that same guy breaks into my house while I am in there he's going out in a body bag.

Most police work is reactive to crime -- they get there after the crime usually. Only their presence is a deterrent. There has always been a crime problem here but over the years the number of people that feel they have no alternative to criminal activity increases with no jobs and the illusions of grandeur of being a gangster (gangsta, gangbanger). Random violence like these school shootings, the DC sniper, the Zodiac killer are perpetrated by persons with severe mental problems that are armed.

Serial killers or mass murders don't present themselves at the gun seller wearing a loosened straight jacket, just out of the loony bin -- something obvious to a gun seller. All this talk of preventing the mentally ill from possessing firearms makes some sense if they are really dangerous. Gun sellers should be required to have some training in profiling their buyers (banks have ''know your customer'' regulations) and have some responsibilities for the sale of weapons with the revocation of their license being at risk for the actions of the persons they sell weapons to -- that makes some sense.

But should some guy that is argumentative but non violent, having sought some sort of psychological help, be labelled criminally insane and be in some database banning firearms ownership and who know what else. Potential employers, insurance companies, the public having access? The choice is having an Orwellian state or a reasonable expectation of privacy and freedom -- where do we draw the line?

America is a violent place, at least in the major cities. But then they estimate 60,000 dead in Syria now (many really murders -- civilian deaths) in their civil war -- Syria a country of 20 million as compared to the 314 million here -- there are a lot of worse places to be with a lot worse odds.

The financial industry rips off the saved equity of most Americans (even expanded to world citizens) and what we get are long debates over gun ownership? I am talking about the "government outrage" and its priority here. It's petty pandering in comparison if you think about it.

In the United States no law can be post facto so what guns are legally held will continue to be legally possessed; So, banning guns would only apply to new purchases having little effect other that raising gun values and encouraging illegal gun sales -- and that is where most career criminals get their guns -- illegal gun sales.

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Classic diversionary tactic:

Yes, I've had a gun pointed at my face, by the police. I understand everything your saying but in your case, the gun was just a means for you to give up your wallet. shooting you was most likely not on his mind, unless you pulled out your own gun. personally i'd rather be robbed than try to play hero and get shot in the process. yes, if someone breaks into your home while you are there, its a different story but i'd still rather not shoot an unarmed person (which most b&e people are). sure there are the hyped media cases where they go to these rich areas and tie the people up, etc but thats not the average break and enter. the average is, they want no one to be home, get in and get in in like five minutes. i am in no way for a gun ban, i just think it needs to be harder to gain access to one. for one thing, people shouldn't be allowed to buy guns online or without no background check at the very least. you also make an interesting point about all this gun attention being used as a diversion to keep people busy while the government robs them yet again.

grumpy · 01-12-2013, 01:18 PM

get better police

PornoMonster · 01-12-2013, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

The NRA plays a huge part in this. I read one of their articles today about a man who produced firearm safety videos on Youtube who was shot to death in his own home. The NRA says this is proof that people need to arm themselves to protect themselves. To me this is proof of just the opposite - He had dozens of firearms and multiple firearms in the room he was murdered in and yet that didn't help him at all. Our fear of crime is making people arm themselves, which in turn helps to arm criminals and the mentally ill.

Yep and Police get killed all the time also.
No one said it would STOP the killings, but you want an answer for the mass shootings, it sure the hell might slow down or stop the amount being killed.

It is a fact that this last school shooting the gunman did keep killing till
1 he is stopped somehow or
2 Police arrive 20 minutes after first shot fired.
He did end his life once he heard the police sirens. But if someone could of jumped the 20 year old or shot him, half way through the shootings, about half of the kids would be dead.

I dont care How many guns you have, if you do not suspect me of harming you and I walk up, put a gun to your head and pull the trigger, NOTHING besides the round not going off will stop this.

Quit being so stupid....

You can't use the --- they had a gun and got killed thing, to make having guns negative.
You have to show how having those guns or a security guard made it worse.

Your dream land of making it harder for the good guys to get guns, makes it harder for the bad guys. WOULD be true if we didn't have MILLIONS of guns on the street already.
If they did not make another gun from this day on, it wont stop the crazies...

You know 5 kids DIE every day from abuse and neglect?

Barry-xlovecam · 01-12-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Yes, I've had a gun pointed at my face, by the police.... i just think it needs to be harder to gain access to one. for one thing, people shouldn't be allowed to buy guns online or without no background check at the very least. you also make an interesting point about all this gun attention being used as a diversion to keep people busy while the government robs them yet again.

There is a huge difference from having to deal with a police office pointing a gun at you and a criminal on a shadowy street -- totally different situation I have been there in both.

As to internet firearm sales; you have to take delivery of the firearm from an ATF licensed gun dealer -- read the fine print on a the gun selling website. ATF licensed gun dealers are required to make background checks before transferring a weapon -- that is a condition of their continued licensure. Guns cannot be sent (delivered) to unlicensed buyers by the USPS, UPS, Fedex, etc.http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/lice...-business.html only licensed dealers can receive firearms shipments from other licensed dealers. It is just a competitive selling situation.

"you also make an interesting point about all this gun attention being used as a diversion to keep people busy while the government robs them yet again." that is how I see it. The recent school killings are a nightmare and I can understand that but in the overall picture they should be put into a logical perspective.

tfs · 01-12-2013, 03:12 PM

Neither. Not a concern here.

Matt 26z · 01-12-2013, 03:14 PM

911 or a gun? 911, obviously.

You pull a gun on a criminal and your odds of being shot just went way up.

L-Pink · 01-12-2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

911 or a gun? 911, obviously.

You pull a gun on a criminal and your odds of being shot just went way up.

wow ………. The guy busts into your house, probably knowing you are home. Busts in anyway and you are going to trust him?

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GrantMercury · 01-12-2013, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster

Dang Media, they have you in fear a legal gun owner will shoot you....

Not at all. I know the odds against that are enormous. That's why I don't obsess about owning guns. See?

BlackCrayon · 01-12-2013, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

wow ???. The guy busts into your house, probably knowing you are home. Busts in anyway and you are going to trust him?

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no but as soon you bust out your gun, you can be sure he will bust out his too if he has one.

BlackCrayon · 01-12-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

There is a huge difference from having to deal with a police office pointing a gun at you and a criminal on a shadowy street -- totally different situation I have been there in both.

As to internet firearm sales; you have to take delivery of the firearm from an ATF licensed gun dealer -- read the fine print on a the gun selling website. ATF licensed gun dealers are required to make background checks before transferring a weapon -- that is a condition of their continued licensure. Guns cannot be sent (delivered) to unlicensed buyers by the USPS, UPS, Fedex, etc.http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/lice...-business.html only licensed dealers can receive firearms shipments from other licensed dealers. It is just a competitive selling situation.

"you also make an interesting point about all this gun attention being used as a diversion to keep people busy while the government robs them yet again." that is how I see it. The recent school killings are a nightmare and I can understand that but in the overall picture they should be put into a logical perspective.

yeah, it is definitely differnt but still not fun to be staring down the barrel of a gun. apparently i had the same kind of car as someone who recently stole a bunch of guns so they assumed i was armed and dangerous. anyways, i didn't know that about online gun sales. though, i wonder how any dealer in his right mind would of handed the kind of weapons james holmes ordered looking the way he does, not to mention the shear amount of it. you would think that kind of large scale orders would or should of set off some kind of red flag in the system.

Rochard · 01-12-2013, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster

But if someone could of jumped the 20 year old or shot him, half way through the shootings, about half of the kids would be dead.

But that's usually not the way it works.

It's very easy to say "An armed guard would taken action and this would have ended much sooner". They had an armed guard at Columbine, and it didn't change the tactical situation at all. Just because it means there is someone with a firearm on the scene it only means they have the potential to alter the tactical situation, but it doesn't guarantee there will be less carnage.

I think a lot of you watch way too much TV and everyone thinks that one single armed guard will be able to quickly dispatch a crazed gun man and nothing could be further from the truth. With the school shooting in CT, any armed guard would have been the first one shot. With the shooting in Taft California this past week, the armed guard had called in sick that day. In Columbine, the armed guard was unable to react in time to prevent anything. It's not like "Oh, there's a gun man in the other room and I'll just stroll in and shoot him between the eyes and be a hero" - it just doesn't happen that way.

There are times when an armed guard is able to react quickly - there was a shooting in a church where an armed guard was able to quickly take action and take out the shooter. At the same time, society is in a sad state where churches feel the need to have armed guards on the grounds. Is this what our society has become? Armed guards in churches?

Fuckers. Some of you are bitching about become a police state while insisting we install armed guards everywhere. LOL.

Penny24Seven · 01-12-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Suck my cock, faggot.

LOL so you just call me names haha, others judge you based on the same dumb shit they hear and you are doing it too. Part of that was a joke but you didn't get it. Do you have a windmill on your house? I forget the others but only idiots think like that. Yeah we have more guns and you have more wooden shoes. It doesn't mean you see wooden shoes when you go for a walk just like I do not see people walking around with guns.

2013 · 01-12-2013, 05:19 PM

Didn't work out so good for George Zimmerman , if he was smart he wouldn't of had the phone. dumbass

Barry-xlovecam · 01-12-2013, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

... i wonder how any dealer in his right mind would of handed the kind of weapons james holmes ordered looking the way he does, not to mention the shear amount of it. you would think that kind of large scale orders would or should of set off some kind of red flag in the system.

Maybe, he didn't look like a psycho like in the mugshots the media is circulating.

Maybe, the gun dealer had suspicions; If so, his license should be revoked at the very least or he be even sued for the public endangerment of his inaction.

With licensure comes responsibility -- a lesson for the financial swindlers to be in fear of.

There needs to be better access checks at school entrance points. Armed persons that are not police, etc. should never be allowed entrance into school buildings -- ever.

As for public gatherings; Friendly known persons openly armed shouldn't bother anyone and would certainly make some psyco think twice about opening fire on innocent people.

The death toll from the 2011 shootings at a Norwegian youth camp was 85 and they only gave him a 23 year sentence -- 85 innocent children slaughtered intentionally -- what kind of a message does that send to potential mass murderers? Civilized country my ass.

Dirty F · 01-12-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian837

LOL so you just call me names haha, others judge you based on the same dumb shit they hear and you are doing it too. Part of that was a joke but you didn't get it. Do you have a windmill on your house? I forget the others but only idiots think like that. Yeah we have more guns and you have more wooden shoes. It doesn't mean you see wooden shoes when you go for a walk just like I do not see people walking around with guns.

You're so narrow minded.

PornoMonster · 01-12-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

But that's usually not the way it works.

It's very easy to say "An armed guard would taken action and this would have ended much sooner". They had an armed guard at Columbine, and it didn't change the tactical situation at all. Just because it means there is someone with a firearm on the scene it only means they have the potential to alter the tactical situation, but it doesn't guarantee there will be less carnage.

I think a lot of you watch way too much TV and everyone thinks that one single armed guard will be able to quickly dispatch a crazed gun man and nothing could be further from the truth. With the school shooting in CT, any armed guard would have been the first one shot. With the shooting in Taft California this past week, the armed guard had called in sick that day. In Columbine, the armed guard was unable to react in time to prevent anything. It's not like "Oh, there's a gun man in the other room and I'll just stroll in and shoot him between the eyes and be a hero" - it just doesn't happen that way.

There are times when an armed guard is able to react quickly - there was a shooting in a church where an armed guard was able to quickly take action and take out the shooter. At the same time, society is in a sad state where churches feel the need to have armed guards on the grounds. Is this what our society has become? Armed guards in churches?

Fuckers. Some of you are bitching about become a police state while insisting we install armed guards everywhere. LOL.

Police state is taking away guns.. I doubt that will happen, but never know.
Guards or Military people brought back home in schools is Protection.

mechanicvirus · 01-12-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mechanicvirus

I want fat neckbeard like you to protect me because I know from all the shit spewing from your mouth, certainly you're an amazing shot.

This is still more relevant than any other response in this thread.

kyro · 01-14-2013, 09:35 PM

i would want 911 because they would send more people with guns haha

blonda80 · 01-15-2013, 02:49 AM

gun and phone!

01-12-2013, 01:40 AM	#1
PornoMonster Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,257	Do you want a gun or a Phone to call 911? When it comes down to protecting your self or your family or both. Do you want a Gun or a Phone to call 911? Average police response time is 23 minutes. give or take.. Someone is breaking into your home, or robbing the gas station you are buying a soda at, or depositing a check into your bank. What one do you want??????? Police are there to take a photos of the bodies and fill out the report... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyoL...A&noredirect=1 __________________ $6 a Month 4 Blade Razors, 4 Cartridges, Includes shipping! Domains 4 Sale CashForVideos.com - Pussy.biz - FootPorn.com - SoloMovie.com - CollegeGirlCams.com - AmateurCamGirls.com - PR3 4 Letter Domain

01-12-2013, 02:53 AM	#4
PornoMonster Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,257	20 minutes for the last school shooting.... Yeah it can be 2 - 45 minutes, but we have seen people can shoot dozens of people in a few minutes, to stealing your house blind. While force should not be used to protect property, I am using this as an example on what can be done in a short amount of time. Also keep in mind this Police response time is just the time it takes them to arrive on scene. Not how long it takes them to engage the criminal, or to find out everyone is dead and start taking the report.... __________________ $6 a Month 4 Blade Razors, 4 Cartridges, Includes shipping! Domains 4 Sale CashForVideos.com - Pussy.biz - FootPorn.com - SoloMovie.com - CollegeGirlCams.com - AmateurCamGirls.com - PR3 4 Letter Domain

01-12-2013, 07:26 AM	#7
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	the idea that every thief wants to kill people is retarded. they just want to get the shit and go. you have a better chance of getting shot at if you have a gun than if you didn't. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

01-12-2013, 07:39 AM	#8
JamesM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 732	for 23 minutes response time , i want Bazooka obviously to protect my family. __________________ Ex GF Films \| Grab Dollars Up To 80% Rev-Share \| 255 Day Cookie \| Legal Content \| Variety of Promo Tools \| CCBill Program \| GF Niche james[at]grabdollars[dot]com \| ICQ::611-99-zero-zero-20

01-12-2013, 10:50 AM	#16
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 72,792	I live in a decent town with a low crime rate... http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/lincoln/crime/ Our police department also has a good response time, less than two minutes last I heard. Since I've lived on this street, now going on seven years, the cops have been called out four times - once because a home robbery was in progress, once because a car was broken into, and two because two residents were chasing their wives with hanguns (I am so not kidding either, different families too). I have a lot more to fear from the legal firearm owners on my own street than I do from criminals at this point. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

01-12-2013, 02:25 AM	#2
mechanicvirus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,730	I want fat neckbeard like you to protect me because I know from all the shit spewing from your mouth, certainly you're an amazing shot.

01-12-2013, 02:34 AM	#3
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,158	23 minutes? Must be shitty bumfuck towns. I've never waited that long. It's the police, not AAA.

01-12-2013, 04:19 AM	#6
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	After reading threads from gun owners i came to the conclusion that every single one of them is living in an area full of rapists, criminals and murderers. The US must be one horrible place. You people live in constant fear. 24/7. It's sad really. Just yesterday i was reading how Vendzilla teaches his daughter to shoot people in the eye to make sure they will be dead. Man, when you need to teach your daughter such things you must be living in the biggest shithole imaginable. I don't think i ever seen a group of people with as much fear as Americans. And funny enough they call it freedom.

01-12-2013, 10:52 AM	#17
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,152	I'll take my gun, even 3 minutes police response is a long time.

01-12-2013, 12:20 PM	#23
ContentPimp Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,184	gun hands down, fuck the cops, they are useless!

01-12-2013, 01:18 PM	#26
grumpy Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 9,870	get better police __________________ Don't let greediness blur your vision \| You gotta let some shit slide icq - 441-456-888

01-12-2013, 03:12 PM	#29
tfs Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 624	Neither. Not a concern here.

01-12-2013, 03:14 PM	#30
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	911 or a gun? 911, obviously. You pull a gun on a criminal and your odds of being shot just went way up.

01-12-2013, 05:19 PM	#37
2013 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: lollling Posts: 4,390	Didn't work out so good for George Zimmerman , if he was smart he wouldn't of had the phone. dumbass

01-14-2013, 09:35 PM	#42
kyro So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 783	i would want 911 because they would send more people with guns haha

01-15-2013, 02:49 AM	#43
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