Dicator Obama readies 19 executive actions on guns - GoFuckYourself.com

Heath · 01-14-2013, 07:18 PM

DICTATOR*

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...7.html?hp=t1_3

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The White House has identified 19 executive actions for President Barack Obama to move unilaterally on gun control, Vice President Joe Biden told a group of House Democrats on Monday, the administration’s first definitive statements about its response to last month’s mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School.
Later this week, Obama will formally announce his proposals to reduce gun violence, which are expected to include renewal of the assault weapons ban, universal background checks and prohibition of high-capacity magazine clips. But Biden, who has been leading Obama’s task force on the response, spent two hours briefing a small group of sympathetic House Democrats on the road ahead in the latest White House outreach to invested groups.

The focus on executive orders is the result of the White House and other Democrats acknowledging the political difficulty of enacting any new gun legislation, a topic Biden did not address in Monday’s meeting.
The executive actions could include giving the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention authority to conduct national research on guns, more aggressive enforcement of existing gun laws and pushing for wider sharing of existing gun databases among federal and state agencies, members of Congress in the meeting said.

“It was all focusing on enforcing existing law, administering things like improving the background database, things like that that do not involve a change in the law but enforcing and making sure that the present law is administered as well as possible,” said Rep. Bobby Scott (D-Va.).
The White House declined to comment on the details of what Obama will propose.

But Biden did indicate that the remains of the Obama campaign apparatus may be activated in the effort.
“He said that this has been a real focus on the policy and that the politics of this issue, that a strategy on the politics of the issue hasn’t been undertaken yet,” Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) told POLITICO. “He did remind us that the campaign infrastructure is still accessible.”
Biden did not address two of the more significant issues in the gun debate: the appointment of a permanent director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and the role violent images in the entertainment industry play in the nation’s gun violence.

Full article : http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...7.html?hp=t1_3

TheSquealer · 01-14-2013, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Populace

?It was all focusing on enforcing existing law, administering things like improving the background database, things like that that do not involve a change in the law but enforcing and making sure that the present law is administered as well as possible,? said Rep. Bobby Scott (D-Va.).

Dictator?

bronco67 · 01-14-2013, 07:40 PM

It's the same thing as usual...first everyone expresses their sorrow for the loss of life, then the gun nuts wait for a while and come out swinging. Do any of you stop to think for a second about a six year old kids with their jaws blown off, before you defend your precious right to own an assault rifle? Isn't their any room for compromise with with you people?

I'm also a gun lover...but I can't understand why there can't be some measures taken that doesn't cut into the second ammendment. It's either all or nothing with you idiots.

Heath · 01-14-2013, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

“It was all focusing on enforcing existing law, administering things like improving the background database, things like that that do not involve a change in the law but enforcing and making sure that the present law is administered as well as possible,” said Rep. Bobby Scott (D-Va.).

said Rep. Bobby Scott (D-Va.).

Did you miss the part a fellow democrat claims this is an existing law? even though it isn't?

Gimme a break.

I don't give a shit about Republicans or Democrats since both parties seem to be full of total fucktards.... But the constitution doesn't say anywhere in it this is lawful. The same constitution Obama swore to uphold. Impeachment for violation of oath? Maybe... Sounds logical to those with a brain.

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Originally Posted by bronco67

It's the same thing as usual...first everyone expresses their sorrow for the loss of life, then the gun nuts wait for a while and come out swinging. Do any of you stop to think for a second about a six year old kids with their jaws blown off, before you defend your precious right to own an assault rifle? Isn't their any room for compromise with with you people?

I'm also a gun lover...but I can't understand why there can't be some measures taken that don't cut into the second ammendment. It's either all or nothing with you idiots.

LMAO!! let me claim I 'love guns' than say everything I can to go against them... Gun lover my ass... What a load of BS...

Dirty F · 01-14-2013, 07:47 PM

Dictator, you people are sad.

DTK · 01-14-2013, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

I'm also a gun lover...but I can't understand why there can't be some measures taken that don't cut into the second ammendment. It's either all or nothing with you idiots.

This

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Dictator, you people are sad.

And this

bronco67 · 01-14-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Populace

said Rep. Bobby Scott (D-Va.).

LMAO!! let me claim I 'love guns' than say everything I can to go against them... Gun lover my ass... What a load of BS...

I built my own AR 15 through the mail years ago. I've owned a Mossberg 500 Shotgun, Beretta 92F and four different Ruger 10/22's. So I don't know anything about guns I guess.

The problem is people who love them too much.

DTK · 01-14-2013, 07:58 PM

Repeating myself, but....

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Originally Posted by DTK

First off, I believe in a strong 2nd Amendment.

What the pro-gun people seem to miss is that most people are just asking for some sensible gun regulations, like re-institute the assault weapons ban, background checks that filter for people with a history of violence and/or mental problems. You know, the kind of things that rank and file NRA members want.

Of course, the right wing tv/radio screamers won't tell you this.

I saw a show on fox today that was a discussion/debate with a person advocating sensible gun regulations and a representative from the gun lobby.

When confronted with the fact that a strong majority of NRA members want sensible regulations, he simply changed the subject. Actually, his whole thing when presented with facts was to change the subject.

I keep saying it and I'll say it again - the leadership of the NRA are nothing more than paid whores for the gun manufacturers. They don't give a damn about the will of their membership, they just want to help their paymasters sell more guns.

Insane? We'll sell you a gun or three
History of violence? We'll sell you a gun or three

Follow the money guys

Heath · 01-14-2013, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

I built my own AR 15 through the mail years ago. I've owned a Mossberg 500 Shotgun, Beretta 92F and four different Ruger 10/22's. No I don't love guns.

Sure you did.

The fact you needed to tell me what imaginary objects you built tell's me you're full of shit.

If you DID build them, you certainly would agree Obama is an idiot for attempting to take ALL of the guns you listed from you...

But you didn't. So you're full of shit.

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Originally Posted by DTK

First off, I believe in a strong 2nd Amendment.

What the pro-gun people seem to miss is that most people are just asking for some sensible gun regulations, like re-institute the assault weapons ban, background checks that filter for people with a history of violence and/or mental problems. You know, the kind of things that rank and file NRA members want.

Of course, the right wing tv/radio screamers won't tell you this.

I saw a show on fox today that was a discussion/debate with a person advocating sensible gun regulations and a representative from the gun lobby.

When confronted with the fact that a strong majority of NRA members want sensible regulations, he simply changed the subject. Actually, his whole thing when presented with facts was to change the subject.

I keep saying it and I'll say it again - the leadership of the NRA are nothing more than paid whores for the gun manufacturers. They don't give a damn about the will of their membership, they just want to help their paymasters sell more guns.

Insane? We'll sell you a gun or three
History of violence? We'll sell you a gun or three

Follow the money guys

Did you honestly think starting your post with "First off, I believe in a strong 2nd Amendment. " would make others think you were totally opposed to it?

Only an idiot would read your gibberish and think you agreed with the Second Amendment.

DTK · 01-14-2013, 08:04 PM

News flash for ya: The 2nd amendment doesn't mean anyone can own any number of any kind of weapon.

Heath · 01-14-2013, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK

News flash for ya: The 2nd amendment doesn't mean anyone can own any number of any kind of weapon.

News flash for you, you're a liar who claims you support something you obviously don't.

arock10 · 01-14-2013, 08:05 PM

I found this article interesting

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ac...the-gun-lobby/

DTK · 01-14-2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Populace

News flash for you, you're a liar who claims you support something you obviously don't.

not sure if trolling

epitome · 01-14-2013, 08:09 PM

Yeah I can't believe Obama came up with those things called Executive Orders.

Next he's probably going to invent something called signing statements.

BFT3K · 01-14-2013, 08:09 PM

Heath · 01-14-2013, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK

not sure if trolling

I was wondering the same thing... Are you a troll, or aren't you? Considering you claim you support something you clearly don't....

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Originally Posted by arock10

I found this article interesting

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ac...the-gun-lobby/

arock posting some more Liberal propaganda? who would'a thunkit!

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Originally Posted by epitome

Yeah I can't believe Obama came up with those things called Executive Orders.

Next he's probably going to invent something called signing statements.

He didn't... He's just using them as a dictator.

Anyone who understands executive privilege understands this. Which is probably why many 'scholars' today told him this would be an abuse of power.

StickyGreen · 01-14-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

Yeah I can't believe Obama came up with those things called Executive Orders.

Oh you must be one of those "Other presidents abused executive orders before, so it's okay for him to do it also" people...

StickyGreen · 01-14-2013, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

It's not him that people should be "terrified" of, it's the agenda that is behind him and was behind most presidents before him that they should be worried about. Obama himself is harmless, he's just a frontman puppet who reads the teleprompter and does what he's told.

bronco67 · 01-14-2013, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Populace

Sure you did.

The fact you needed to tell me what imaginary objects you built tell's me you're full of shit.

If you DID build them, you certainly would agree Obama is an idiot for attempting to take ALL of the guns you listed from you...

But you didn't. So you're full of shit.

Did you honestly think starting your post with "First off, I believe in a strong 2nd Amendment. " would make others think you were totally opposed to it?

Only an idiot would read your gibberish and think you agreed with the Second Amendment.

Not that I need to prove anything to a jerkoff like you, but it was 20 years ago so it may have been a little easier back then. The CAR15 lower receiver was the only part that had to be purchased through a dealer. The rest I was able to get through a company in Washington (the state) named Olympic Arms.

I built it all myself, and the only part I needed help with was getting the barrel torqued correctly. I even reloaded my own .223 rounds. I sold it to a gun dealer in Delaware before going into the Navy.

So anyway, shut the fuck up because you make yourself look more like an idiot the more you type. Don't hurt yourself coming up with your pearls of wisdom.

Heath · 01-14-2013, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

Oh you must be one of those "Other presidents abused executive orders before, so it's okay for him to do it also" people...

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

Oh you must be one of those "Other CLAIMED presidents abused executive orders before, so it's okay for him to do it also" people...

I fixed it....!

Heath · 01-14-2013, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Not that I need to prove anything to a jerkoff like you, but it was 20 years ago. The CAR15 lower receiver was the only part that had to be purchased through a dealer. The rest I was able to get through a company in Washington (the state) named Olympic Arms.

I built it all myself, and the only part I needed help with was getting the barrel torqued correctly. I even reloaded my own .223 rounds.

So anyway, shut the fuck up because you make yourself look more like an idiot the more you type. Don't hurt yourself coming up with your pearls of wisdom.

You almost had me at 'not that i need to prove anything'...

Then you continued with your obvious attempt at verifying your desperation at verifying you may actually be telling the truth. However. You still are supporting something you openly admit yo having. Therefor... you my friend.... are a moron who claims to support laws against something they, themselves own.

Congrats on your stupidity. Its not often some one admits to such idiocies.

DTK · 01-14-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Populace

I was wondering the same thing... Are you a troll, or aren't you? Considering you claim you support something you clearly don't....

So because i don't believe that the 2nd amendment does not guarantee unlimited weapons for everyone, means I don't believe in the 2nd amendment? Is that what you're saying?

Here's a question for you: What is the problem with common sense gun regulations like re-instituting the assault weapons ban and background checks to filter out people with histories of violence and/or mental health problems?

DTK · 01-14-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

It's not him that people should be "terrified" of, it's the agenda that is behind him and was behind most presidents before him that they should be worried about. Obama himself is harmless, he's just a frontman puppet who reads the teleprompter and does what he's told.

QFT

But good luck convincing people like Populace of this blatantly obvious fact.

StickyGreen · 01-14-2013, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Populace

I fixed it....!

Other claimed presidents? Wtf does that mean?

Elli · 01-14-2013, 08:28 PM

I'm just going to throw this into the mix for conversation.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...v010p00280.pdf
"TheVictorian death rate for firearm related deaths decreased
significantly from 4.2 per 100 000 in 1979 to 1.5 per 100 000
in 2000, which represented an estimated annual percentage
change of –4.9% (95% confidence interval 2 5.9 to 2 3.9) and
64.3% overall. The death rate for firearm related deaths for
the rest of Australian decreased significantly from 5.1 per
100 000 in 1979 to 1.8 per 100 000 in 2000, which
represented an estimated annual percentage change of
2 3.9% (2 4.8 to 2 3.1) and an overall reduction of 64.7%"

It goes on to say:
"Supportive evidence for the relation between firearm
ownership and prevalence of fatalities also comes from a
number of American studies. Miller et al , in a pooled cross
sectional time series analysis over 10 years (1988–97), found
that a disproportionately high number of children aged 5–14
years died from suicide, homicide, and unintentional firearm
related deaths in American states and regions in which
firearms were more prevalent. 6"

"After controlling for several factors, they foundthat the presence of one or more firearms in the home was
associated with an increased risk of suicide (adjusted odds
ratio 4.8, 95% confidence interval 2.7 to 8.5).10
Similarly,
keeping a firearm in the home was strongly and indepen-dently associated with an increased risk of homicide"

"For the same period , despite the declines related to firearms,overall suicide and homicide rates in Victoria did not show a
similar decline"

bronco67 · 01-14-2013, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Populace

You almost had me at 'not that i need to prove anything'...

Then you continued with your obvious attempt at verifying your desperation at verifying you may actually be telling the truth. However. You still are supporting something you openly admit yo having. Therefor... you my friend.... are a moron who claims to support laws against something they, themselves own.

Congrats on your stupidity. Its not often some one admits to such idiocies.

I don't own guns anymore. Not that I wouldn't in the future -- but I don't think anything that happens legislatively in the coming months will keep me from getting a gun legally.

Heath · 01-14-2013, 08:29 PM

Stupid people say stupid things...

There.. I replied to ALL you morons who claimed you support gun rights. But say they need to be limited.

StickyGreen · 01-14-2013, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli

I'm just going to throw this into the mix for conversation.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...v010p00280.pdf
"TheVictorian death rate for firearm related deaths decreased
significantly from 4.2 per 100 000 in 1979 to 1.5 per 100 000
in 2000, which represented an estimated annual percentage
change of ?4.9% (95% confidence interval 2 5.9 to 2 3.9) and
64.3% overall. The death rate for firearm related deaths for
the rest of Australian decreased significantly from 5.1 per
100 000 in 1979 to 1.8 per 100 000 in 2000, which
represented an estimated annual percentage change of
2 3.9% (2 4.8 to 2 3.1) and an overall reduction of 64.7%"

It goes on to say:
"Supportive evidence for the relation between firearm
ownership and prevalence of fatalities also comes from a
number of American studies. Miller et al , in a pooled cross
sectional time series analysis over 10 years (1988?97), found
that a disproportionately high number of children aged 5?14
years died from suicide, homicide, and unintentional firearm
related deaths in American states and regions in which
firearms were more prevalent. 6"

"After controlling for several factors, they foundthat the presence of one or more firearms in the home was
associated with an increased risk of suicide (adjusted odds
ratio 4.8, 95% confidence interval 2.7 to 8.5).10
Similarly,
keeping a firearm in the home was strongly and indepen-dently associated with an increased risk of homicide"

"For the same period , despite the declines related to firearms,overall suicide and homicide rates in Victoria did not show a
similar decline"

If you want to talk about deaths and suicides you should be posting prescription medication statistics. The elephant in the room that no one wants to address...

DTK · 01-14-2013, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

but I don't think anything that happens legislatively in the coming months will keep me from getting a gun legally.

That's what you'll never get through someone like Populace's head.

He's clearly bought into the 'Count Chocula is going to take all your guns away' line that extreme right-wing screamers have been selling for four years.

Contradictory info cannot penetrate that bubble.

ps. I know you said legislatively and Populace is talking about Dictator Blackenstein using exec orders....what he clearly doesn't understand (among many things, apparently) is the concept of "posturing".

Rochard · 01-14-2013, 08:38 PM

While I am stunned this might happen by executive order, I told you this would happen. Gun laws were coming. Twenty six and seven year old children were brutally murdered, and the NRA's only solution was "more guns".

The NRA just fucked everyone by their stupidity.

DTK · 01-14-2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

If you want to talk about deaths and suicides you should be posting prescription medication statistics. The elephant in the room that no one wants to address...

amen to that

AdultPornMasta · 01-14-2013, 08:45 PM

epitome · 01-14-2013, 08:45 PM

Guns that existed when second amendment was written:

Guns they are worried about people getting their hands on now:

DTK · 01-14-2013, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

and the NRA's only solution was "more guns".

The NRA just fucked everyone by their stupidity.

Speaking of which.....

Today, just a month after the NRA blamed the Newtown tragedy on violent video games (among other things), they released a new 'target practice' app with coffin-shaped targets and head-and-heart bullseyes.

DTK · 01-14-2013, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultPornMasta

Not only are you a fake nick, scamming tranny, Marion Lynn (aka SallyRand)...you're also a complete fucking idiot

Heath · 01-14-2013, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK

That's what you'll never get through someone like Populace's head.

He's clearly bought into the 'Count Chocula is going to take all your guns away' line that extreme right-wing screamers have been selling for four years.

Contradictory info cannot penetrate that bubble.

ps. I know you said legislatively and Populace is talking about Dictator Blackenstein using exec orders....what he clearly doesn't understand (among many things, apparently) is the concept of "posturing".

You mean some one who's an actual American and has read the constitution? oh, you got me there bro.... How dare I read the actual constitution and laws that support it.

I love reading you retards responses claiming some one else doesn't get something, when in truth its YOU who doesn't get the rule of law.

Its funny, and comical.

Thanks for the laugh. I appreciate it. I can't tell if you're trolling or attempting to be funny, either way, you win with comedy. congrats.

AdultPornMasta · 01-14-2013, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

If you want to talk about deaths and suicides you should be posting prescription medication statistics. The elephant in the room that no one wants to address...

BFT3K · 01-14-2013, 09:19 PM

kyro · 01-14-2013, 09:24 PM

obama should not get to decide these issues imo

DTK · 01-14-2013, 09:27 PM

Interesting, Populace, that you didnt respond to this

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Originally Posted by DTK

So because i don't believe that the 2nd amendment does not guarantee unlimited weapons for everyone, means I don't believe in the 2nd amendment? Is that what you're saying?

Here's a question for you: What is the problem with common sense gun regulations like re-instituting the assault weapons ban and background checks to filter out people with histories of violence and/or mental health problems?

brassmonkey · 01-14-2013, 09:41 PM

not going to work. lets see how far he can go

mineistaken · 01-14-2013, 09:47 PM

At least certain degree of dictatorship is in every muslim's blood. Unless a guy named Hussein is not a muslim.

DTK · 01-14-2013, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

At least certain degree of dictatorship is in every muslim's blood. Unless a guy named Hussein is not a muslim.

trolling or joking?

PornoMonster · 01-14-2013, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

It's the same thing as usual...first everyone expresses their sorrow for the loss of life, then the gun nuts wait for a while and come out swinging. Do any of you stop to think for a second about a six year old kids with their jaws blown off, before you defend your precious right to own an assault rifle? Isn't their any room for compromise with with you people?

I'm also a gun lover...but I can't understand why there can't be some measures taken that doesn't cut into the second ammendment. It's either all or nothing with you idiots.

Tell me ONE thing that would of stopped the last school shooting?

Yes, the mom should of had the guns locked up, I am guessing in the police report, that she didn't. So Let's throw her body in Jail.

Jusy a FYI, I am for stricter gun laws on obtaining weapons, and background checks.

PornoMonster · 01-14-2013, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

Guns that existed when second amendment was written:

Guns they are worried about people getting their hands on now:

You can take the second amendment route and say, that is what the Military also had at the time! Thus the second picture is again what the military has now.

Or, your second picture is nothing more than a semi auto weapon with lip stick.
I can fire my 30-06 just as fast as the AR-15 and yep can buy, or make large capacity magazines.

Then again, I think the Campus shooting was just handguns??? 32 Killed 17 wounded
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre

AutumnBH · 01-14-2013, 10:01 PM

mineistaken · 01-14-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK

trolling or joking?

40% joking 40% trolling 20% serious

TCLGirls · 01-14-2013, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Populace

Stupid people say stupid things...

LOL that's quite funny coming from someone who said this: "Other CLAIMEDpresidents..."

DTK · 01-14-2013, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

40% joking 40% trolling 20% serious

so at least 20% of you believes that count chocula is a muslim?

mineistaken · 01-14-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK

so at least 20% of you believes that count chocula is a muslim?

A little less, because part of those 20% goes for my other statement about muslims having dictatorship gene

I would say 10% of me believes that. Its either muslim or atheist. No way Christian. But we know that you can not win oval office not claiming to be Christian.
Plus how many people have different religion than their parents? Not many. You claim that one man named Hussien is one of those exceptions?
Actually give it more than 10%

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bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,032	It's the same thing as usual...first everyone expresses their sorrow for the loss of life, then the gun nuts wait for a while and come out swinging. Do any of you stop to think for a second about a six year old kids with their jaws blown off, before you defend your precious right to own an assault rifle? Isn't their any room for compromise with with you people? I'm also a gun lover...but I can't understand why there can't be some measures taken that doesn't cut into the second ammendment. It's either all or nothing with you idiots. __________________ Last edited by bronco67; 01-14-2013 at 07:54 PM..

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Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	I'm just going to throw this into the mix for conversation. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...v010p00280.pdf "TheVictorian death rate for firearm related deaths decreased significantly from 4.2 per 100 000 in 1979 to 1.5 per 100 000 in 2000, which represented an estimated annual percentage change of –4.9% (95% confidence interval 2 5.9 to 2 3.9) and 64.3% overall. The death rate for firearm related deaths for the rest of Australian decreased significantly from 5.1 per 100 000 in 1979 to 1.8 per 100 000 in 2000, which represented an estimated annual percentage change of 2 3.9% (2 4.8 to 2 3.1) and an overall reduction of 64.7%" It goes on to say: "Supportive evidence for the relation between firearm ownership and prevalence of fatalities also comes from a number of American studies. Miller et al , in a pooled cross sectional time series analysis over 10 years (1988–97), found that a disproportionately high number of children aged 5–14 years died from suicide, homicide, and unintentional firearm related deaths in American states and regions in which firearms were more prevalent. 6" "After controlling for several factors, they foundthat the presence of one or more firearms in the home was associated with an increased risk of suicide (adjusted odds ratio 4.8, 95% confidence interval 2.7 to 8.5).10 Similarly, keeping a firearm in the home was strongly and indepen-dently associated with an increased risk of homicide" "For the same period , despite the declines related to firearms,overall suicide and homicide rates in Victoria did not show a similar decline" __________________ email: [email protected]

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kyro So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 783	obama should not get to decide these issues imo

01-14-2013, 09:41 PM	#41
brassmonkey Pay It Forward Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Yo Mama House Posts: 77,229	not going to work. lets see how far he can go __________________ TRUMP 2025 KEKAW!!! - The Laken Riley Act Is Law! DACA ENDED - SUPPORT AZ HCR 2060 52R - email: brassballz-at-techie.com

01-14-2013, 09:47 PM	#42
mineistaken See signature :) Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ICQ 363 097 773 Posts: 29,656	At least certain degree of dictatorship is in every muslim's blood. Unless a guy named Hussein is not a muslim.

01-14-2013, 10:01 PM	#46
AutumnBH Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Spamville Posts: 294