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NetwErk GUrl · 01-29-2013, 09:32 AM

I want to pay someone to register a domain like allyvanlines-is-a-scam.com or something of the like and put my review up on it.

I'm taking bids for the following work: 1. You will register the domain 2. you will buy the hosting for a year 3. you will make the site, which can be ugly as long as it has the review below clearly readable. 4. You will throw in an optional price quote for SEO work to get the site ranking high for obvious search terms such as "ally vanlines". I'd love for this site to rank higher than the company's site.

I'm disgusted and don't want to look at this project right now, but I want the site made and up as soon as possible.

Please don't get on me for falling for this rip-off... I already feel bad enough. I know GFY is a harsh place, but I'm looking for help, not insults at this point.

Please skype me with your fee to get this done.

Thank you.

My specific experience with Ally Vanlines are that they are a scam.

I was quoted $1,700 for a move and asked to place $488 deposit to hold the dates of the move with their freight driver. My room mate paid the deposit using a credit card. We never got an invoice or any paperwork at all and when we tried to call the company all we'd ever get is voicemail, no matter who we tried, or what time of day it was.

Scared that we were being scammed, my room mate requested a chargeback on his credit card for the deposit and we moved on to just rent our own moving van. Two weeks after we'd given up on ever talking to anyone at Ally Vanlines again, they called to schedule the movers. I told them we charged back the deposit and wouldn't be using their services. I told them we couldn't get a living person on the phone and they acted like that was crazy talk.

The person I spoke to was named Tony Gousgounis and he assured me it had all been a misunderstanding and he was sorry we wouldn't be using their moving company, but that he'd need my help to cancel the freight driver they'd contracted on my behalf.Then they proceeded to send me documents for the price quote, saying that in their system, they had to have a signed estimate on the books to cancel it.

I didn't believe that I should have to sign anything to cancel the job and I argued with out signing for the majority of the day and through several calls. Tony Gousgounis spent 6 hours begging and calling and convincing me to sign, so they could cancel the subcontracted freight driver they'd scheduled so that the driver didn't show up to move us, expecting the remainder balance.

I did not want to sign, but he wore me down, and eventually I signed to get the ever more panicked Tony off my phone. When he took my paperwork, he said he'd be canceling the job with it, apologized for the misunderstanding, and then told me he'd give me a great deal in the future if I ever needed to move and was willing to give them another shot.

I figured signing was harmless because my room mate ad already requested the credit back for the deposit through his bank. I thought they couldn't use my signature with my room mate's credit card, because I'm not an authorized signer on his card, so I figured signing the price quote would not be damaging.

I was wrong. They used my signature to fight the chargeback at the bank level and have had it overturned, keeping the deposit. They did this knowing we were not going to use the service, knowing we'd given them plenty of time to cancel the work, knowing my signature wasn't authorized for the card they were charging.

This company knew exactly what it was doing to scam that deposit, did it willfully, and should NEVER be used by anyone.

Assist me in spreading the word however you can so others don't get scammed. A moving company should never require a deposit. Legitimate moving companies do an on-site free estimate of what it will cost to move you. The *real* moving company, Allied Van Lines, did just that and required no deposit. Ally Vanlines is a scam.

(I'm posting the whole thing here just to have it in another place on the web.)

CYF · 01-29-2013, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetwErk GUrl

I want to pay someone to register a domain like allyvanlines-is-a-scam.com or something of the like and put my review up on it.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/

_Richard_ · 01-29-2013, 10:14 AM

better business bureau as well

the document you signed, it didn't have a date?

NetwErk GUrl · 01-29-2013, 10:16 AM

It was dated 12/12 with a scheduled move date of 12/28.

PornDiscounts-R · 01-29-2013, 10:18 AM

Ouch. that doesnt sound like fun.

Question: If your signature cant be used to make a charge on the roommates card.
Why not go to your bank ( roommates bank ) and tell them that?

It sound strange that the bank would allow a charge without a valid signature.
Saying that... i know nothing about US banking. Was just my thought on it

Best of luck with it all.

NetwErk GUrl · 01-29-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by thebestamateur

Ouch. that doesnt sound like fun.

Question: If your signature cant be used to make a charge on the roommates card.
Why not go to your bank ( roommates bank ) and tell them that?

It sound strange that the bank would allow a charge without a valid signature.
Saying that... i know nothing about US banking. Was just my thought on it

Best of luck with it all.

My room mate's bank is not defending him. He placed the chargeback request in the category "services not rendered" because he didn't want any one to come after ME for fraud, as if I'd willfully signed to use his card in a deceitful way. When his bank submitted the chargeback, the moving company contested it and won, using the signed estimate as proof the charge was valid. When my room mate told his own bank this whole story he was told it was his story against theirs. His banker actually told him the funds in question were too small for a deeper investigation.

In truth, it is really small, but they willfully stole, so I want to get them internet smeared.

PornDiscounts-R · 01-29-2013, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetwErk GUrl

My room mate's bank is not defending him. He placed the chargeback request in the category "services not rendered" because he didn't want any one to come after ME for fraud, as if I'd willfully signed to use his card in a deceitful way. When his bank submitted the chargeback, the moving company contested it and won, using the signed estimate as proof the charge was valid. When my room mate told his own bank this whole story he was told it was his story against theirs. His banker actually told him the funds in question were too small for a deeper investigation.

In truth, it is really small, but they willfully stole, so I want to get them internet smeared.

It sucks to get taken that way. Cant blame you for wanting the word about them getting out to as many as posible.

_Richard_ · 01-29-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NetwErk GUrl

It was dated 12/12 with a scheduled move date of 12/28.

my point is if you chargebacked before the document was signed..

NetwErk GUrl · 01-29-2013, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_

my point is if you chargebacked before the document was signed..

You're correct. It was, and this is possibly a new avenue for appeal for my room mate to take up with the bank. Thank you for pointing it out. It's worth a shot.

_Richard_ · 01-29-2013, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetwErk GUrl

You're correct. It was, and this is possibly a new avenue for appeal for my room mate to take up with the bank. Thank you for pointing it out. It's worth a shot.

excellent, when you made the calls that weren't answered.. are you able to 'track' that? so pictures of the calls going unanswered etc?

cause that'll really help your 'story'. not as proof, but you are gonna want to prove to the banker you're legit

and then the banker will have a 'target'

and it won't be you

Google Expert · 01-29-2013, 11:33 AM

never sign anything

Google Expert · 01-29-2013, 11:36 AM

Also, sounds like they charged your card before you signed the documents - so these money are not for the services outlined in the documents that you signed later, therefore you can keep the chargeback or tell that to the bank, or in wors case scenario hire a lawyer and sue them (you would definitely win and they would have to pay all the expenses)

01-29-2013, 09:32 AM	#1
NetwErk GUrl Here to wErk Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sacramento CA Posts: 550	Need a site made to expose a scam... I want to pay someone to register a domain like allyvanlines-is-a-scam.com or something of the like and put my review up on it. I'm taking bids for the following work: 1. You will register the domain 2. you will buy the hosting for a year 3. you will make the site, which can be ugly as long as it has the review below clearly readable. 4. You will throw in an optional price quote for SEO work to get the site ranking high for obvious search terms such as "ally vanlines". I'd love for this site to rank higher than the company's site. I'm disgusted and don't want to look at this project right now, but I want the site made and up as soon as possible. Please don't get on me for falling for this rip-off... I already feel bad enough. I know GFY is a harsh place, but I'm looking for help, not insults at this point. Please skype me with your fee to get this done. Thank you. My specific experience with Ally Vanlines are that they are a scam. I was quoted $1,700 for a move and asked to place $488 deposit to hold the dates of the move with their freight driver. My room mate paid the deposit using a credit card. We never got an invoice or any paperwork at all and when we tried to call the company all we'd ever get is voicemail, no matter who we tried, or what time of day it was. Scared that we were being scammed, my room mate requested a chargeback on his credit card for the deposit and we moved on to just rent our own moving van. Two weeks after we'd given up on ever talking to anyone at Ally Vanlines again, they called to schedule the movers. I told them we charged back the deposit and wouldn't be using their services. I told them we couldn't get a living person on the phone and they acted like that was crazy talk. The person I spoke to was named Tony Gousgounis and he assured me it had all been a misunderstanding and he was sorry we wouldn't be using their moving company, but that he'd need my help to cancel the freight driver they'd contracted on my behalf.Then they proceeded to send me documents for the price quote, saying that in their system, they had to have a signed estimate on the books to cancel it. I didn't believe that I should have to sign anything to cancel the job and I argued with out signing for the majority of the day and through several calls. Tony Gousgounis spent 6 hours begging and calling and convincing me to sign, so they could cancel the subcontracted freight driver they'd scheduled so that the driver didn't show up to move us, expecting the remainder balance. I did not want to sign, but he wore me down, and eventually I signed to get the ever more panicked Tony off my phone. When he took my paperwork, he said he'd be canceling the job with it, apologized for the misunderstanding, and then told me he'd give me a great deal in the future if I ever needed to move and was willing to give them another shot. I figured signing was harmless because my room mate ad already requested the credit back for the deposit through his bank. I thought they couldn't use my signature with my room mate's credit card, because I'm not an authorized signer on his card, so I figured signing the price quote would not be damaging. I was wrong. They used my signature to fight the chargeback at the bank level and have had it overturned, keeping the deposit. They did this knowing we were not going to use the service, knowing we'd given them plenty of time to cancel the work, knowing my signature wasn't authorized for the card they were charging. This company knew exactly what it was doing to scam that deposit, did it willfully, and should NEVER be used by anyone. Assist me in spreading the word however you can so others don't get scammed. A moving company should never require a deposit. Legitimate moving companies do an on-site free estimate of what it will cost to move you. The real moving company, Allied Van Lines, did just that and required no deposit. Ally Vanlines is a scam. (I'm posting the whole thing here just to have it in another place on the web.) __________________ Ananda Sisk - Client Relations RocketGate Primary for high volume merchants across the industry icq: 301-253-746 --- mobile: 1.916.342.4386 --- skype: ananda.sisk --- mail: [email protected]

01-29-2013, 10:16 AM	#4
NetwErk GUrl Here to wErk Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sacramento CA Posts: 550	It was dated 12/12 with a scheduled move date of 12/28. __________________ Ananda Sisk - Client Relations RocketGate Primary for high volume merchants across the industry icq: 301-253-746 --- mobile: 1.916.342.4386 --- skype: ananda.sisk --- mail: [email protected]

01-29-2013, 10:18 AM	#5
PornDiscounts-R Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 1,272	Ouch. that doesnt sound like fun. Question: If your signature cant be used to make a charge on the roommates card. Why not go to your bank ( roommates bank ) and tell them that? It sound strange that the bank would allow a charge without a valid signature. Saying that... i know nothing about US banking. Was just my thought on it Best of luck with it all. __________________ Email# rasmus(you*know)porndiscounts.com

01-29-2013, 10:14 AM	#3
_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 30,985	better business bureau as well the document you signed, it didn't have a date?

01-29-2013, 11:33 AM	#11
Google Expert Webmaster Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 14,294	never sign anything

01-29-2013, 11:36 AM	#12
Google Expert Webmaster Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 14,294	Also, sounds like they charged your card before you signed the documents - so these money are not for the services outlined in the documents that you signed later, therefore you can keep the chargeback or tell that to the bank, or in wors case scenario hire a lawyer and sue them (you would definitely win and they would have to pay all the expenses)