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Old 01-30-2013, 02:43 AM   #1
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U.S. 'backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad's regime'

Some of you will have seen the leaked email posted up on GFY a few days ago, now one of the major British newspapers has dared to publish it. (the Daily Mail of course)

Is this announcement from 2 days ago related, appears to be a direct response to what's happened.

US approves major boost for cyber security
"The US has approved a five-fold expansion of its cyber-security force over coming years to increase its ability to defend critical computer networks, The Washington Post reports."
http://tvnz.co.nz/technology-news/us...curity-5328565


U.S. 'backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad's regime'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ame-Assad.html

"Leaked emails have allegedly proved that the White House gave the green light to a chemical weapons attack in Syria that could be blamed on Assad's regime and in turn, spur international military action in the devastated country.

A report released on Monday contains an email exchange between two senior officials at British-based contractor Britam Defence where a scheme 'approved by Washington' is outlined explaining that Qatar would fund rebel forces in Syria to use chemical weapons.

Barack Obama made it clear to Syrian president Bashar al-Assad last month that the U.S. would not tolerate Syria using chemical weapons against its own people.

According to Infowars.com, the December 25 email was sent from Britam's Business Development Director David Goulding to company founder Philip Doughty.

It reads: 'Phil... We’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington.

'We’ll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have.

'They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record.

'Frankly, I don’t think it’s a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion?

'Kind regards, David.'

Britam Defence had not yet returned a request for comment to MailOnline.

The emails were released by a Malaysian hacker who also obtained senior executives resumés and copies of passports via an unprotected company server, according to Cyber War News.

Dave Goulding's Linkedin profile lists him as Business Development Director at Britam Defence Ltd in Security and Investigations. A business networking profile for Phil Doughty lists him as Chief Operationg Officer for Britam, United Arab Emirates, Security and Investigations.

The U.S. State Department had not returned a request for comment on the alleged emails to MailOnline today at time of publication.

However the use of chemical warfare was raised at a press briefing in D.C. on January 28.

A spokesman said that the U.S. joined the international community in 'setting common redlines about the consequences of using chemical weapons'.

A leaked U.S. government cable revealed that the Syrian army more than likely had used chemical weapons during an attack in the city of Homs in December.

The document, revealed in The Cable, revealed the findings of an investigation by Scott Frederic Kilner, the U.S. consul general in Istanbul, into accusations that the Syrian army used chemical weapons in the December 23 attack.

An Obama administration official who had access to the document was reported as saying: 'We can't definitely say 100 per cent, but Syrian contacts made a compelling case that Agent 15 was used in Homs on Dec. 23.'

Mr Kilner's investigation included interviews with civilians, doctors, and rebels present during the attack, as well as the former general and head of the Syrian WMD program, Mustafa al-Sheikh.

Dr. Nashwan Abu Abdo, a neurologist in Homs, is certain chemical weapons were used. He told The Cable: 'It was a chemical weapon, we are sure of that, because tear gas can't cause the death of people.'

Eye witness accounts from the investigation revealed that a tank launched chemical weapons and caused people exposed to them to suffer nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, delirium, seizures, and respiratory distress.

The symptoms suggest that the weaponized compound Agent-15 was responsible. Syria denied using chemical weapons and said it would never use them against citizens.

Speaking to Pentagon reporters at the time, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said his biggest concern was how the U.S. and allies would secure the chemical and biological weapons sites scattered across Syria and ensure the components don't end up in the wrong hands if the regime falls, particularly under violent conditions.

Government forces and rebels in Syria have both been accused by human rights groups of carrying out brutal warfare in the 22-month-old conflict, which has claimed more than 60,000 lives."


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ame-Assad.html
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You are ignore but i'm willing to bet that this is another post made to spread fear and hatred and as ALWAYS lacks any proof for your idiotic claims.
You pathetic idiot.
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Nothing new there. That's a typical US style to deal with smaller and weaker countries. Remember Iraq?

Some people even believe the same "trick" was did to Afghanistan (9/11), but personally I'm not a conspiracy theorist. While the Iraqi WMD case falsification is a well-known fact.
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You are ignore but i'm willing to bet that this is another post made to spread fear and hatred and as ALWAYS lacks any proof for your idiotic claims.
You pathetic idiot.
How did you guess?
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You are ignore but i'm willing to bet that this is another post made to spread fear and hatred and as ALWAYS lacks any proof for your idiotic claims.
You pathetic idiot.
Good job you remembered I was meant to be on ignore
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How did you guess?
As he was lying about having me on ignore
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Nothing new there. That's a typical US style to deal with smaller and weaker countries. Remember Iraq?

Some people even believe the same "trick" was did to Afghanistan (9/11), but personally I'm not a conspiracy theorist. While the Iraqi WMD case falsification is a well-known fact.
So true CyberSEO, this is just business as usual, nothing surprising. Yeah, like you say Iraq WMD, also 9/11 controlled demos. It's a crazy world!
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Just a wild guess.
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Some of you will have seen the leaked email posted up on GFY a few days ago, now one of the major British newspapers has dared to publish it. (the Daily Mail of course)

Is this announcement from 2 days ago related, appears to be a direct response to what's happened.

US approves major boost for cyber security
"The US has approved a five-fold expansion of its cyber-security force over coming years to increase its ability to defend critical computer networks, The Washington Post reports."
http://tvnz.co.nz/technology-news/us...curity-5328565


U.S. 'backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad's regime'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ame-Assad.html

"Leaked emails have allegedly proved that the White House gave the green light to a chemical weapons attack in Syria that could be blamed on Assad's regime and in turn, spur international military action in the devastated country.

A report released on Monday contains an email exchange between two senior officials at British-based contractor Britam Defence where a scheme 'approved by Washington' is outlined explaining that Qatar would fund rebel forces in Syria to use chemical weapons.

Barack Obama made it clear to Syrian president Bashar al-Assad last month that the U.S. would not tolerate Syria using chemical weapons against its own people.

According to Infowars.com, the December 25 email was sent from Britam's Business Development Director David Goulding to company founder Philip Doughty.

It reads: 'Phil... We?ve got a new offer. It?s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington.

'We?ll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have.

'They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record.

'Frankly, I don?t think it?s a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion?

'Kind regards, David.'

Britam Defence had not yet returned a request for comment to MailOnline.

The emails were released by a Malaysian hacker who also obtained senior executives resumés and copies of passports via an unprotected company server, according to Cyber War News.

Dave Goulding's Linkedin profile lists him as Business Development Director at Britam Defence Ltd in Security and Investigations. A business networking profile for Phil Doughty lists him as Chief Operationg Officer for Britam, United Arab Emirates, Security and Investigations.

The U.S. State Department had not returned a request for comment on the alleged emails to MailOnline today at time of publication.

However the use of chemical warfare was raised at a press briefing in D.C. on January 28.

A spokesman said that the U.S. joined the international community in 'setting common redlines about the consequences of using chemical weapons'.

A leaked U.S. government cable revealed that the Syrian army more than likely had used chemical weapons during an attack in the city of Homs in December.

The document, revealed in The Cable, revealed the findings of an investigation by Scott Frederic Kilner, the U.S. consul general in Istanbul, into accusations that the Syrian army used chemical weapons in the December 23 attack.

An Obama administration official who had access to the document was reported as saying: 'We can't definitely say 100 per cent, but Syrian contacts made a compelling case that Agent 15 was used in Homs on Dec. 23.'

Mr Kilner's investigation included interviews with civilians, doctors, and rebels present during the attack, as well as the former general and head of the Syrian WMD program, Mustafa al-Sheikh.

Dr. Nashwan Abu Abdo, a neurologist in Homs, is certain chemical weapons were used. He told The Cable: 'It was a chemical weapon, we are sure of that, because tear gas can't cause the death of people.'

Eye witness accounts from the investigation revealed that a tank launched chemical weapons and caused people exposed to them to suffer nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, delirium, seizures, and respiratory distress.

The symptoms suggest that the weaponized compound Agent-15 was responsible. Syria denied using chemical weapons and said it would never use them against citizens.

Speaking to Pentagon reporters at the time, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said his biggest concern was how the U.S. and allies would secure the chemical and biological weapons sites scattered across Syria and ensure the components don't end up in the wrong hands if the regime falls, particularly under violent conditions.

Government forces and rebels in Syria have both been accused by human rights groups of carrying out brutal warfare in the 22-month-old conflict, which has claimed more than 60,000 lives."


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ame-Assad.html
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Lol at using infowars as a source.
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The Daily Mail quoting "According to Infowars.com ..."

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As he was lying about having me on ignore
the only liar in here is you.. since when does the government talk black ops or strategy via email moron?

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Nothing new there. That's a typical US style to deal with smaller and weaker countries. Remember Iraq?

Some people even believe the same "trick" was did to Afghanistan (9/11), but personally I'm not a conspiracy theorist. While the Iraqi WMD case falsification is a well-known fact.
yep. similar done in Serbia (kosovo) and Bosnia.Just a smaller scale.
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the only liar in here is you.. since when does the government talk black ops or strategy via email moron?

have you killed anyone today?
It wasn't the govt, it was a private contractor.
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Shocked? Aww no I'm not. Bush kind of took all the shock out of what the US does in the Mmiddle East.
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Lol at using infowars as a source.
What a surprise.
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The Daily Mail quoting "According to Infowars.com ..."

It was posted here on GFY before Infowars published anything, however I can see why they've referenced Infowars as there's is an incredibly well sourced article.

http://www.infowars.com/hack-reveals...tack-in-syria/
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Um....

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According to Infowars.com, the December 25 email was sent from Britam's Business Development Director David Goulding to company founder Philip Doughty.
Well clearly we should all trust Infowars as source.
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It was posted here on GFY before Infowars published anything, however I can see why they've referenced Infowars as there's is an incredibly well sourced article.

http://www.infowars.com/hack-reveals...tack-in-syria/
Which cites a whole bunch of dubious sources like blogspot blogs and YouTube videos. Lol
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According to some dude on Reddit this email is totally legit you guys.
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All the hacked data is available for download, keep in mind that the company took down their servers afterwards, surely an admission that they've been hacked
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Well clearly we should all trust Infowars as source.
The info was on GFY before Infowars
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According to some dude on Reddit this email is totally legit you guys.
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More nonsense of course.

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It reads: 'Phil... We’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington.
Well if the Qataris swear the idea is approved by Washington then it must be so. No need to get first hand confirmation from the US.

This ridiculous email was fabricated and designed to do exactly as it has - mobilize the gullible conspiracy theorists around another one of their typical and predictable "false flag" fables.

http://syriancommando.wordpress.com/...9/britam-trap/

http://syriancommando.wordpress.com/...aud-confirmed/

^^^ And yes I am aware that the above link is proposing a two-level false flag event while debunking the email. But that just further emphasizes the ridiculousness of all of the claims without ever having any solid and legitimate proof. Everything is a conspiracy and false flag to these people. Nothing is real. We might as well live in the Matrix.

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So it turns out to be complete bullshit? Noooo? Who would've guessed.
So basically the topic starter is spreading fear and has no proof of his idiotic claims whatsoever. Where have we seen that before?

When will these conspiracy imbeciles ever learn. Pathetic idiots.
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Now log in as JohnnyClips as he's more entertaining than this nick, I'm not going to argue with you as you know damn well that this is a genuine hacking, you're just doing a TrollBot

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More nonsense of course.



Well if the Qataris swear the idea is approved by Washington then it must be so. No need to get first hand confirmation from the US.

This ridiculous email was fabricated and designed to do exactly as it has - mobilize the gullible conspiracy theorists around another one of their typical and predictable "false flag" fables.

http://syriancommando.wordpress.com/...9/britam-trap/

http://syriancommando.wordpress.com/...aud-confirmed/

^^^ And yes I am aware that the above link is proposing a two-level false flag event while debunking the email. But that just further emphasizes the ridiculousness of all of the claims without ever having any solid and legitimate proof. Everything is a conspiracy and false flag to these people. Nothing is real. We might as well live in the Matrix.
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So it turns out to be complete bullshit? Noooo? Who would've guessed.
So basically the topic starter is spreading fear and has no proof of his idiotic claims whatsoever. Where have we seen that before?

When will these conspiracy imbeciles ever learn. Pathetic idiots.
You're doing a great job of ignoring my threads Dirty F
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Some of you fuckers are just retarded.

The knocked Nixon out off office because someone who worked for him broke into someone's office. Yet here you think the US is going to use chemical weapons and lie about it. That's fucking comical.
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Now log in as JohnnyClips as he's more entertaining than this nick, I'm not going to argue with you as you know damn well that this is a genuine hacking, you're just doing a TrollBot
Umm, ya. Okay. I am pretty sure the general consensus around here is that you were the JohnnyClips nick. He was the other half of your split personality but you are both batshit crazy.

Enjoy life in your fantasy land while the rest of us try to deal with actual problems in reality.
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So it turns out to be complete bullshit? Noooo? Who would've guessed.
So basically the topic starter is spreading fear and has no proof of his idiotic claims whatsoever. Where have we seen that before?

When will these conspiracy imbeciles ever learn. Pathetic idiots.
They won't ever learn. They will live out their lives in paranoid delusion full of made up stories that do nothing other than enable them parade around and claim to know the "truth". It gives them a false sense of superiority and self-righteousness.

And yes they are pathetic idiots.
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The knocked Nixon out off office because someone who worked for him broke into someone's office.
What happened to Clinton for genocide of Serbs in Yugoslavia?
What happened to Bush for mass murdering of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan for no reason?
What happened to Obama for overthrowing the legal government in Libya?

This is how the American moral works. You can burn out Dresden or nuke civilian cities like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, you can destroy the whole countries like Yugoslavia (break them into many pieces), invade and kill everyone and everywhere (Iraq, Afghanistan), but(!!!) please do not break into the office of your US competitor (Nixon) and don't allow your secretary to suck your dick (Clinton).

Cool rules for the "freest and the most democratic "nation" ever"
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Obviously these are things discussed by email. After all, nothing can go wrong with an electronic paper trail available to every 14yr old hacker in the world.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:37 AM   #35
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We've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington. 
We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have.
 They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record.
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Good call Monotony, the link is dead already, car crashes and suicides coming soon...

I was surprised to see that they dared to report it, it's a death wish for a journalist to get involved with debunking war propaganda.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:53 AM   #38
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Hm.. Last time I checked someone who leaks private documents from inside the government is a spy



Seen any black helicopters over your parents house lately?
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:55 AM   #39
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Good call Monotony, the link is dead already, car crashes and suicides coming soon...

I was surprised to see that they dared to report it, it's a death wish for a journalist to get involved with debunking war propaganda.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html this is your idea of journalism?
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:06 AM   #41
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Obviously these are things discussed by email. After all, nothing can go wrong with an electronic paper trail available to every 14yr old hacker in the world.
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Regardless any email expert will tell you those headers are legit.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html this is your idea of journalism?
In the UK it's the newspaper with the most balls to share info which the little people aren't meant to know about.

It has another side too but that's good as then more people buy it then also get to see a quick glimpse of truth

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It's getting serious
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:14 AM   #45
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Obviously these are things discussed by email. After all, nothing can go wrong with an electronic paper trail available to every 14yr old hacker in the world.
The word is complacency, but something tells me they won't be doing that again
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:39 AM   #46
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It's getting serious
yep, helpful too

i posted the original link, dude that slammed me a few days ago for using 'non credible sources' to talk about that iran explosion thingy, is posting 'back up links' for this story from something called bhasker.com and complaining that he 'can't find any reference'

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The United States has been doing this since the dawn of time

No surprise here
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i couldn't read past the source being "infowars.com" lol
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i couldn't read past the source being "infowars.com" lol
as opposed to MSNBC or Fox News?
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ROFL...

This is stupid on so many levels its sad you even posted it.

It's even more comical you think because the site removed it, that it means its more true. Not that some one higher up then the idiot who posted it seen it and was like 'seriously? Ifnowars? Blogspot blogs? YouTube videos? This is journalism?' DELETE!

C'mon bro. One can only assume you also believe 9/11 was an inside job?
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